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I have neglected to buy and install acceleration for MS FSX. I have the standard version with sp2. I assume that I can install acceleration?

I have many many add ons and a custom tweaked CFG file like most people do.

Would installing acceleration overwrite these tweaks or effect any of my add ons?

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No, you cannot install acceleration over SP2. 

 

You can install FSX+SP1+SP2

 

or

 

FSX+Acceleration. 

 

You need to uninstall SP2 i think, before you install acceleration. BTW, why you want to do that? Acceleration is supposed to be the same thing with FSX+SP2, the only difference is one more default plane, one garmin panel for default cessna and missions. If you don't use this, you don't need acceleration.

 

More then that, i find acceleration very buggy, especially simconnect. 

 

Here you can see detailed install instructions: http://www.simforums.com/forums/topic29041.html

Scroll down to FSX installation, you need to install corect version + simconnect in this way

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Oh that's very good information! Thankyou! I would have probably screwed my system up. The only reason I was going to do it was for the FA 18 Hornet. But it's really not a big deal. Especially if its buggy.

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Hi,<br />Acceleration automatically detects whether SP1 and SP2 are installed and acts accordingly. All the improvements apply equally to the Standard or Deluxe versions of FSX. Check here for a bit more info:<br />http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ptaylor/archive/2008/06/24/what-is-fsx-acceleration-what-does-it-contain-and-is-it-worth-it.aspx<br />Checkout the added detail at Edwards. Never heard of it being buggy or having problems with Simconnect but maybe they are system dependent.<br />Jim F.

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B247NG, thank you so much for the link! Definitely buying that!! That seals the deal. I probably won't install acceleration. I don't really need it.

 

Jandjfrench, thanks for the input. It may really be system dependent but Ill just enjoy what I have now. I don't want to ruin it.

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You need to un-install SP2, You then instal Acceleration to get racing, helo sling/hoist ops, detailed airports, and carrier ops. Then you can land and launch from Aircraft carriers with the F-18's. No bugs here.

 

Dav

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X-Pack is an expansion pack for FSX. X-Pack contains the following new features:

3 aircraft

1) F/A-18 (military jet),

2) EH-1O1 (helo),

3) P-51 (racer variant)

4 systems upgrades

1) Carriers (tailhook, arrestor, catapult, launch bar, meatball)

2) helos ( true multi-engine, hoist, sling loads )

3) Racing engines (ADI, failures)

4) Racing system (gates and laps, counters and timers)

30+ missions, 5+ sceneries.

1) Istanbul

2) Longleat

3) Tempelhof

4) Edwards

5) Reno (for the Reno air race)

 

and most might have missed it, but the area around Mt St Helens (for the rescue mission) now uses 3M LIDAR data exported with custom fraction bits to enable smooth mountain meadows instead of the usual stair stepping.

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Why would you uninstall SP2 just to have Acceleration reinstall it again?

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Why would you uninstall SP2 just to have Acceleration reinstall it again?

Jim, it's been so long from those days, but MS wanted it that way - I believe there were minor code differences and some things with the pertinent SDK's

 

http://www.microsoft.com/Products/Games/FSInsider/downloads/Pages/SP2-EN-ReadMe.aspx

 

 

If I recall correctly, when you install Acceleration, you will be prompted to allow the removal of SP2 automajically .

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I think SP2 came out after Accelerattion. I just don't like installing older software over top of newer software, even though Phil Taylor said the Acceleration installer will detect SP1 and SP2, and install accordingly.

 

Dave

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I think SP2 came out after Accelerattion. I just don't like installing older software over top of newer software, even though Phil Taylor said the Acceleration installer will detect SP1 and SP2, and install accordingly.

Acceleration includes SP2. The free-standing version of SP2 was released after Acceleration because of logistic reasons.

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Why would you uninstall SP2 just to have Acceleration reinstall it again?

Acceleration does not install SP2, only SP1.  Acceleration/SP2 contain code to make sure individuals who install the freeware SP2 cannot use the product addons in Acceleration.  I have found that having both SP2/Acceleration installed has caused CTD's.

 

Best regards,

 

Jim

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From PTs blog:

 

"Plus the X-Pack installer automagically detects and installs both SP1 and SP2 as required."

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Did any of you follow Kendall's link?

 

If not, a quote from it...

 

Quote

If install SP2 and later purchase Flight Simulator X: Acceleration, you must uninstall SP2 before installing Acceleration.

So much wrong with this post...

firehawk44, on 23 Jun 2013 - 04:57 AM, said:

Acceleration does not install SP2, only SP1. Acceleration/SP2 contain code to make sure individuals who install the freeware SP2 cannot use the product addons in Acceleration. I have found that having both SP2/Acceleration installed has caused CTD's.

 

Best regards,

 

Jim

Let's break it down.

firehawk44, on 23 Jun 2013 - 04:57 AM, said:

Acceleration does not install SP2, only SP1.

Yes it does, it is well known that Acceleration updates FSX to SP2.

 

firehawk44, on 23 Jun 2013 - 04:57 AM, said:

Acceleration/SP2 contain code to make sure individuals who install the freeware SP2 cannot use the product addons in Acceleration.

So Acceleration includes code so people that do not have it can't use it? That makes no sense at all. This statement also counteracts your first one.

 

firehawk44, on 23 Jun 2013 - 04:57 AM, said:

I have found that having both SP2/Acceleration installed has caused CTD's.

Yes, please read my first quote, which is from Microsoft, not a random forum post.

 

regards,

Joe

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Acceleration does not install SP2, only SP1. Acceleration/SP2 contain code to make sure individuals who install the freeware SP2 cannot use the product addons in Acceleration. I have found that having both SP2/Acceleration installed has caused CTD's.

 

Best regards,

 

Jim

No, no, no... Acceleration = SP1+SP2. And there is no such a code, actually - SP2 was made to ensure multiplayer compatibility with Acceleration.

 

But i still recomend use of SP1+SP2, no Acceleration. I tested this on many computers, not only mine, and Acceleration was buggy in most of cases.

 

SP1+SP2 will perform better, i saw +10fps and better smoothnest on SP2 vs Acceleration on same system and same configuration.

 

Is not only about mission pack, one plane and garmin panel... They have different autogen and different atmosphere for example. Also, there are some examples of planes which flies realy high and fast, they cannot reach max speed with acceleration etc...

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No, no, no... Acceleration = SP1+SP2. And there is no such a code, actually - SP2 was made to ensure multiplayer compatibility with Acceleration.

Again, Acceleration does not install SP2.  Please do some research before posting erroneous information - http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ptaylor/archive/2007/10/02/acceleration-and-sp2.aspx .  It takes me a lot of time to go out and do the research myself to correct your bad information. For one, SP2 was released much later than Acceleration so why should it be installed before Acceleration? And DX10 in SP2 and Acceleration are the reasons for better performance, not the SP.  Anyway, just read the first paragraph in the link.  It contains all the information from the lead FSX developer.  You also want to read the 3d post down from Phil in the comments section about the coding.  I try to post the most accurate data I can find about a topic but it is all subject to many interpretations.  Effective communications is difficult no matter where you live on Planet Earth. 

 

Best regards,

Jim

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Again, Acceleration does not install SP2. Please do some research before posting erroneous information - http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ptaylor/archive/2007/10/02/acceleration-and-sp2.aspx . It takes me a lot of time to go out and do the research myself to correct your bad information. For one, SP2 was released much later than Acceleration so why should it be installed before Acceleration? And DX10 in SP2 and Acceleration are the reasons for better performance, not the SP. Anyway, just read the first paragraph in the link. It contains all the information from the lead FSX developer. You also want to read the 3d post down from Phil in the comments section about the coding. I try to post the most accurate data I can find about a topic but it is all subject to many interpretations. Effective communications is difficult no matter where you live on Planet Earth.

 

Best regards,

Jim

This is from above link:

"Acceleration has RTM’ed. Acceleration Pack contains the SP2 fixes; including both DX9 and DX10 work..."

 

And in that post below:

 

"We performed careful integrations between both the Acceleration and SP2 products to make "embed" the SP2 code into the Acceleration build so it also contains the fixes in SP2, for both DX9 and DX10"

 

 

I still can't understand why you said that acceleration does not install SP2... Yes, SP2 was realased after acceleration, i have posted that recently here in forums too. But they are suposed to have same fixes, only that acceleration have a couple of missions, a plane etc... Becouse it's payware. And it's normal marketing move for payware acceleration to be realised first. I said also in my first post in this thread that OP should install only sp1+sp2 or only acceleration.

 

And about that code, again, SP2 was made to ensure multiplayer compatibility with Acceleration.

They are definitely two separate products, we know that. When i say that Acceleration will install SP2, i mean that Acceleration will install SP2 fixes and DX9 and DX10 work. Is there something else to install from SP2?

 

Just to make it clear, In performance comparision i was talking only about DX9 performance, i don't use DX10

 

Jim, English is my third language and I accept the possibility that i didn't understand well what you tried to say. But this is clear to me - acceleration and sp2

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in the same thread Phil Taylor also said:

 

Phil Taylor  4 Oct 2007 5:28 PM #

Obert,

yes you will only need the SP2 download if you dont purchase Acceleration

 

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