January 11, 201511 yr I dread flying that thing this winter. I don't want to be the first to scrape the tip off. Matt Cee
January 12, 201511 yr I for one would pay for a new and improved 737, also I'd be happy with just a visual update to the models, you could add the performance updates later for the Split scimitars. Aaron Brazda.
January 19, 201511 yr Hi Pmdg Ok so i am Engineer for Thomson Airways we have just fitted the split scimitar winglets to around 60% of the fleet, Just wanted to give you a abit for a insite of what is needed to be done to fit the split scimitar winglets. 1x The wings have to be strengthened from outboard of the Engine to the dry area this is done in the fuel tanks. 2x A tap is fitted from the outboard of alieron to the wing tip this on the trailing edge. Now this doesn't make much visual different. 3x The Alieron have to re rigged upwards Again not much of a visual differents 4x The Old winglet are sent away to be modified to the split scimitar winglet so the fitting of the winglet is the same. 5x The visual differnt would be the strobe lights there have changed it to flash like the 787, But the rear strobe is still the same flash as before. Ok so after speaking to a number of pilots there really is no change in the performance, only in crosswinds so i think there have changed it from 36 knots to 30 knots in crosswinds. I would love to see the split scimitar winglet on the ngx most airlines are now changing to split scimitar winglet ,i don't think it would take much to change the strobe light flash and the modeling the split scimitar winglet. I really hope we see a update soon Keep up the good work
January 20, 201511 yr Hi Pmdg Ok so i am Engineer for Thomson Airways we have just fitted the split scimitar winglets to around 60% of the fleet, Just wanted to give you a abit for a insite of what is needed to be done to fit the split scimitar winglets. 1x The wings have to be strengthened from outboard of the Engine to the dry area this is done in the fuel tanks. 2x A tap is fitted from the outboard of alieron to the wing tip this on the trailing edge. Now this doesn't make much visual different. 3x The Alieron have to re rigged upwards Again not much of a visual differents 4x The Old winglet are sent away to be modified to the split scimitar winglet so the fitting of the winglet is the same. 5x The visual differnt would be the strobe lights there have changed it to flash like the 787, But the rear strobe is still the same flash as before. Ok so after speaking to a number of pilots there really is no change in the performance, only in crosswinds so i think there have changed it from 36 knots to 30 knots in crosswinds. I would love to see the split scimitar winglet on the ngx most airlines are now changing to split scimitar winglet ,i don't think it would take much to change the strobe light flash and the modeling the split scimitar winglet. I really hope we see a update soon Keep up the good work Big issue is the crosswind limitations with SSW. My company is now recomending sideslip landings only 15knts and below. Also, I finally saw a plane with a missing lower winglet. I don't know the cause. Matt Cee
January 20, 201511 yr Hi Matt I heard that this is one of the the biggest down falls regarding the SSW, I have not yet been told of any division as yet as we have been having really strong winds in UK. I am still waiting for a fuel truck ur some kind of ground equipment to hit one. I don'nt know what are companys limitations are but it would be interesting to find out.
February 24, 201511 yr Add me to the list of people who would like to see a visual update only SSW for the NGX. I have no idea how modeling works, but I'd imagine that it would be relatively simple to change the size/shape of the winglet and add the lower portion without having to go in and change flight dynamics. I think that a free update would be too much to ask as they are already giving us weather radar for free, so maybe have it as a $5-$10 update? Even $20 maybe?
May 18, 201511 yr Don't mean to dredge this one up again, but, as with many others, I'm happy with just a visual update. Of course I would love a full performance upgrade, but at this point the visual loss alone of flying a non-SSW 738 is a far greater loss of realism than a visual update without the performance factors as well. This especially as, at least with the airlines I fly in the sim and see in general, there are more SSW-equipped 738s than not. I would also be happy to pay a small amount for this visual upgrade, as I think it adds a huge amount to the essence of the aircraft. Derek MacPherson At the risk of sounding cliche, I love planes.GTX 770 / i7-4790K / 16GB DDR3
May 18, 201511 yr I would also be happy to pay a small amount for this visual upgrade, as I think it adds a huge amount to the essence of the aircraft. I don't agree I would pay only for an upgrade of the flight model togheter with visual (scimitars only visual w/o simulating the exact aerodynamics of that model it's a nonsense for me)..I wouldn't pay for a visual change only ... but it's just my personal opinion... Ciao Andrea
May 18, 201511 yr Frankly, I don't know what all the fuss is about. Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
May 18, 201511 yr Frankly, I don't know what all the fuss is about. Meh. Flight sims appeal to a huge range of people with varied interests. I used it when I was furloughed and wanted to keep up on flying. Others only care about aesthetics or procedures or virtual airlines etc. There's the Shaggys and Velmas and the Freds. http://i.imgur.com/NOECI0s.gifv Matt Cee
May 21, 201511 yr actually i wouldnt mind paying 5 to 10 dollars on that, its not a bad idea, and pmdg would also have to put out a paint kit for liveries to be made for the split scimitars www.alaskaair-virtual.org,swavirtual.com, Ramp lead @ Phoenix Sky Harbor, Loving the simming and aviation industry <SCRIPT LANGUAGE='JavaScript' SRC='http://www.jetphotos.com/jp_forum_sign.php?photogid=75760' TYPE='text/javascript'></SCRIPT> Alex Kulak
May 31, 201511 yr Well unless there are imminent plans for NGX v2 (and hence it's a stopgap), put me down as "do it properly or not at all". I don't buy PMDG because they settle for "it'll do", I buy them because they do their damnedest to get it right...
May 31, 201511 yr I dread flying that thing this winter. I don't want to be the first to scrape the tip off. We recently handled a Sun Country 737 with the SSW's at my FBO for a sports charter. I was talking with the mechanic while refueling and he said that their company has already had 2 damaged by ground equipment. I did notice, while pulling up the fuel truck, that the lower part does really come down pretty far. Which is what spurred on the conversation. I would be surprised if we don't see SSW operators start painting at least part of the lower section high vis, if they have not already. Matt Bernard20+ Years Commercial/GA A&P/PLST
May 31, 201511 yr We recently handled a Sun Country 737 with the SSW's at my FBO for a sports charter. I was talking with the mechanic while refueling and he said that their company has already had 2 damaged by ground equipment. I did notice, while pulling up the fuel truck, that the lower part does really come down pretty far. Which is what spurred on the conversation. I would be surprised if we don't see SSW operators start painting at least part of the lower section high vis, if they have not already. I haven't seen any hi-vis paint jobs yet. It's funny: some airlines paint the antennae on the bottom of the fuselage with hi-vis orange stripes. I'm not sure what's going to hit them down there.... Matt Cee
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