Skip to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

The AVSIM Community

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

Split-Scimitar Winglet Modeling on the NGX?

Featured Replies

The new winglet design has been placed on multiple aircraft - including those of United Airlines. Is there any chance these can be modeled in the NGX? I have placed a few photo links below for some images of the winglet design from Boeing.

 

http://www.ainonline.com/sites/default/files/uploads/603-split-scimitar-blended-winglet-in-flight_0.jpg

 

http://www.aviationpartners.com/images/slider/rd-split-winglet-scimitartip.jpg

 

Large winglet from Boeing presentation:

http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/0/14/600c9616-7d60-4897-ae14-c329240c64b3.Full.jpg

 

It appears to be an option on the -900ER. Before you post on here - there is already a thread about this, please note I'm posting this because these new winglets have actually been fitted onto an aircraft. Is there a chance these can be put on the (hopefully soon to come) PMDG 737 NGX -900ER?

Regards, Jeremy Chesney

 

 

  • Replies 75
  • Views 43.4k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Most Popular Posts

  • We'll see but it would take a change to the flight model too - the whole point of these things is that they add additional fuel savings over the normal winglets.

I would like to add that instead of making a "NEW" plane like the (NG apposed to the NGX) -Winglets/no Winglets- That instead of adding another 3 aircraft that it should be a "Paint" addon. Meaning when you load the United paint, you would get the choice of choosing the Scimitar or the regular blended winglets. On startup meaning as soon as you click "start flight" a little box would pop up with 2 checkbox's 1 for each choice! Just a little input from a fellow flight simmer who wanted to add something!

- - Tommy - -

  • Commercial Member

We'll see but it would take a change to the flight model too - the whole point of these things is that they add additional fuel savings over the normal winglets.

Ryan Maziarz
devteam.jpg

For fastest support, please submit a ticket at http://support.precisionmanuals.com

  • 2 weeks later...

It would also mean a modification to the textures also? Or an additional texture for the winglet like with the MD-11.

i7 6700k, GTX 1070 (MSI), 16GB Ram DDR4

Asus Maximus VIII Hero, Corsair H100i v2

- Alex Farmer

Goldstar Textures - www.facebook.com/goldstartextures

 

  • 10 months later...

i think its a great idea. Pretty soon most 737s will have them

www.alaskaair-virtual.org,swavirtual.com, Ramp lead @ Phoenix Sky Harbor, Loving the simming and aviation industry 

 

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE='JavaScript' SRC='http://www.jetphotos.com/jp_forum_sign.php?photogid=75760' TYPE='text/javascript'></SCRIPT>

 

Alex Kulak

Well, the flight model itself won't change significantly...if at all. The only correction the NGX would have to undergo is the fuel consumption with this new type of winglets. It'd be great if PMDG considered it for SP2, which as we all know is still quite a long way down the road.

 

With kind regards, Bogdan Misko.

 

  • 2 weeks later...

if PMDG does make a model for the NGX with scimitar winglets will they be an update or would you have to pay for the model?

 

www.alaskaair-virtual.org,swavirtual.com, Ramp lead @ Phoenix Sky Harbor, Loving the simming and aviation industry 

 

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE='JavaScript' SRC='http://www.jetphotos.com/jp_forum_sign.php?photogid=75760' TYPE='text/javascript'></SCRIPT>

 

Alex Kulak

 

 


Well, the flight model itself won't change significantly...if at all.

 

Funnily enough, there are people who have actually flown the scimitars and they wouldn't agree with you...

--Peter Fabian 
RTFM.jpg

 

 


Well, the flight model itself won't change significantly...if at all.

Hmmm.... No. Entire limitations sections have been rewritten for the Scimitar winglets.

So, yes, there is quite a different flightmodel behind it.

Name available upon request


AVSIMSig.jpg


 

  • Commercial Member

if PMDG does make a model for the NGX with scimitar winglets will they be an update or would you have to pay for the model?

 

Most likely paid - it would require a decent amount work to both model, and adjust the dynamics.

 

 

...if at all, of course.

Kyle Rodgers

Is it really worth it? I mean.....as opposed to spending time, effort and money on a completely new aircraft?

Christopher Low

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme

UK2000 Beta Tester

Funnily enough, there are people who have actually flown the scimitars and they wouldn't agree with you...

 

Of course there's a slightly different feel to it when flying the actual NG with the new type of winglets, but the question is whether it is possible to simulate that slightly different feel within FSX. 

The only way PMDG could do it is if they obtained the actual performance data from Boeing and fine-tuned the current flightmodel to match that data to a certain extent. 

 

After all it's their choice - however, I'm quite positive that a "split-scimitar winglet extension" would find a lot of interest in the community/the market, since almost all the major airlines around the world are slowly fitting those new winglets on their NG's.

 

With kind regards, Bogdan Misko.

 

I think it makes much more sense to wait for the 737-MAX and put that out as a separate product than to make scimitar winglets for the NGX. With the current projects PMDG has set for themselves, timeline seems to be right for a MAX release after the real aircraft has been delivered. 

Cristi Neagu

Our whole fleet now have them, looks quite good actually! There is not a noteable difference vs the "normal" winglets other than a fuel saving for the company (and offcourse some differences in the (wind) limitations). Would be nice if PMDG modelled this offcourse, but as I said, it would be nice..

Best regards,

 

Joey Zijdel

Create an account or sign in to comment

Account

Navigation

Search

Search

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.