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Split-Scimitar Winglet Modeling on the NGX?

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The new winglet design has been placed on multiple aircraft - including those of United Airlines. Is there any chance these can be modeled in the NGX? I have placed a few photo links below for some images of the winglet design from Boeing.

 

http://www.ainonline.com/sites/default/files/uploads/603-split-scimitar-blended-winglet-in-flight_0.jpg

 

http://www.aviationpartners.com/images/slider/rd-split-winglet-scimitartip.jpg

 

Large winglet from Boeing presentation:

http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/0/14/600c9616-7d60-4897-ae14-c329240c64b3.Full.jpg

 

It appears to be an option on the -900ER. Before you post on here - there is already a thread about this, please note I'm posting this because these new winglets have actually been fitted onto an aircraft. Is there a chance these can be put on the (hopefully soon to come) PMDG 737 NGX -900ER?

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I would like to add that instead of making a "NEW" plane like the (NG apposed to the NGX) -Winglets/no Winglets- That instead of adding another 3 aircraft that it should be a "Paint" addon. Meaning when you load the United paint, you would get the choice of choosing the Scimitar or the regular blended winglets. On startup meaning as soon as you click "start flight" a little box would pop up with 2 checkbox's 1 for each choice! Just a little input from a fellow flight simmer who wanted to add something!

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We'll see but it would take a change to the flight model too - the whole point of these things is that they add additional fuel savings over the normal winglets.

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It would also mean a modification to the textures also? Or an additional texture for the winglet like with the MD-11.

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Well, the flight model itself won't change significantly...if at all. The only correction the NGX would have to undergo is the fuel consumption with this new type of winglets. It'd be great if PMDG considered it for SP2, which as we all know is still quite a long way down the road.

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if PMDG does make a model for the NGX with scimitar winglets will they be an update or would you have to pay for the model?

 

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Well, the flight model itself won't change significantly...if at all.

 

Funnily enough, there are people who have actually flown the scimitars and they wouldn't agree with you...

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Well, the flight model itself won't change significantly...if at all.

Hmmm.... No. Entire limitations sections have been rewritten for the Scimitar winglets.

So, yes, there is quite a different flightmodel behind it.

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if PMDG does make a model for the NGX with scimitar winglets will they be an update or would you have to pay for the model?

 

Most likely paid - it would require a decent amount work to both model, and adjust the dynamics.

 

 

...if at all, of course.

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Is it really worth it? I mean.....as opposed to spending time, effort and money on a completely new aircraft?

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Funnily enough, there are people who have actually flown the scimitars and they wouldn't agree with you...

 

Of course there's a slightly different feel to it when flying the actual NG with the new type of winglets, but the question is whether it is possible to simulate that slightly different feel within FSX. 

The only way PMDG could do it is if they obtained the actual performance data from Boeing and fine-tuned the current flightmodel to match that data to a certain extent. 

 

After all it's their choice - however, I'm quite positive that a "split-scimitar winglet extension" would find a lot of interest in the community/the market, since almost all the major airlines around the world are slowly fitting those new winglets on their NG's.

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I think it makes much more sense to wait for the 737-MAX and put that out as a separate product than to make scimitar winglets for the NGX. With the current projects PMDG has set for themselves, timeline seems to be right for a MAX release after the real aircraft has been delivered. 

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Our whole fleet now have them, looks quite good actually! There is not a noteable difference vs the "normal" winglets other than a fuel saving for the company (and offcourse some differences in the (wind) limitations). Would be nice if PMDG modelled this offcourse, but as I said, it would be nice..

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What airline?

 

I know Sunwing has pretty much all scimitar now, saw a bunch in SXM.

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When I asked this question last year, Ryan explained that a visual model would be the easiest way to do it, while creating new flight dynamics would take longer.  I would be happy with just switching between the old and new winglets, even if it doesn't reflect the improved economics.  Looking forward to SP2, regardless..

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It's only a 2% saver so modeling would be nice for me.  

 

Reg,

John

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Like it's been said, it's not only 2% fuel savings. There's a lot of flight dynamics modifications too. Maybe it's not something that you'd definitely feel, but i really doubt PMDG would let it slide.

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There's a lot of flight dynamics modifications too. Maybe it's not something that you'd definitely feel, but i really doubt PMDG would let it slide.

 

They slid the 747-400 flight dynamics over to the 747-8 pretty easily!

 

Adding the new style winglets as a visual model upgrade only is a no-brainer to me...but there's probably no money in it unless they wrap it up with a BBJ/ -ER expansion pack to make it worth purchasing.

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Haha, that is hilarious!

 

But maybe PMDG is going "100% realistic" from here out though :)

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The reason why the -8 was a visual model only has been explained countless time...

People wanted it very badly, but no flight model information was available, and would be available for quite some time. PMDG decided to model the visual,extension only, and call it quits until 747v2.

Quite a logical decision, if you ask me.

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The reason why the -8 was a visual model only has been explained countless time...

People wanted it very badly, but no flight model information was available, and would be available for quite some time. PMDG decided to model the visual,extension only, and call it quits until 747v2.

Quite a logical decision, if you ask me.

 

Indeed. My only point here is that the Earth did not stop turning and/or burst into flame when PMDG released a 'visual model only' for the 747 and likely would not do so if they repeated that with the 737 :)

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