I'm guessing you're a category 2 guy Luke. 

 

Likes to fly one particular aircraft (PMDG 777), study it hard and really wants to master the majority of it (PMDG 777). It's all they really fly and love it because of the aircraft (PMDG 777) - not one hundred percent because of the developer. They'll go to extremes to do various failures (PMDG 777) and assure they use pretty much real world procedures on routine - in both normal and non-normal operations (PMDG 777). Thousands of hours will be contained within that one aircraft normally (PMDG 777).

 

I filled in some missing info for ya lol.  I'm prolly a combination of all three.  Usually on my very first loadup of a new plane, I'll put it on a long runway somewhere with engines running and just sort of tinker around a bit before getting it airborne.  Not sure how much tinkering I'll do with the 777 as I'll be anxious to take her to Dubai, but I suppose I will have to set up my EZDOK views if I want to be able to have a successful flight.

That always cracks me up lol! Or sometimes even VATSIM controllers that yell at you when you break 250 under 10K departing on an 8 hour flight in the MD-11. Like really? Haha

 

Also agree- it's a nice idea. It'll be a good bit of work though!

 

Not uncommon for controllers to cancel speed limits in YSSY (VATSIM and the real world.. probably real world more then VATSIM), Quite annoying when it comes to VA and Airline addons because they're so strict on this rule they don't think a controller allows you to go over the limit even though its quite common in a place like YSSY

Not uncommon for controllers to cancel speed limits in YSSY (VATSIM and the real world.. probably real world more then VATSIM), Quite annoying when it comes to VA and Airline addons because they're so strict on this rule they don't think a controller allows you to go over the limit even though its quite common in a place like YSSY

What does a controller need to allow? Permission isn't required to go over 250kts in a heavy aircraft because you need to be over it for safe speed with clean configuration.

What does a controller need to allow? Permission isn't required to go over 250kts in a heavy aircraft because you need to be over it for safe speed with clean configuration.

 

I've yet to see in my charts that rule :unsure: But its not always heavy's that get cleared speed restrictions.

Regarding the 250 <10,000 rule, It is also not universally applied, for example have a look at Dubai charts which clearly state 280 <10,000.

 

 

What does a controller need to allow? Permission isn't required to go over 250kts in a heavy aircraft because you need to be over it for safe speed with clean configuration.

 

Yeah, and he can allow going over 250 if you dont need to go faster due to min clean.

 

Besides, if you go over 250 for minimum clean reason, you are not supposed to throttle on beyond that. With restriction lifted, you can do 340 if you desire so.

I am going to create a bunch of forms for testing your proficiency in the 777.

 

Mainly I will gather the annual tests that line Captains do (such as EMERGENCY procedures which are the most important) and will put them in a document. Then we can encourage Virtual Airlines to bring in this system. Not only would a flight be carried out but a simulator check ride for your understanding of the 777.

 

For example, has anyone even tried to do aborted takeoffs? What about engine out past V1 and you must take off? What about fire? etc etc you get my line of attack here.

 

So, not only will you be doing your own flights, but if you haven't passed the check ride on your emergency procedures then you won't be rated.

 

We could even have the ratings as a banner on here for the forums to encourage people to go professional.

 

Why buy a professional simulator addon yet do not even see if you can fly emergencies by the book?

Who exactly is the "we" that is trying to impose such rigorous standards on what is actually a hobby? There are VAs that do check rides and VAs that don't. If someone wants that kind of rigor they can join an outfit that supports it.

 

Then there are the Vatsim and IVAO exams for pilots. There are already plenty of ways available to gain virtual (but meaningless) ratings if people choose. If you are making resources available to help then all well and good. But please don't assume everyone sees the hobby as you do.

 

By the way, these addons aren't "professional" in any meaningful sense and if people want to enjoy the sophistication and realism within the structure of a VA but without learning abnormals and emergencies then let them. Please don't try and sell the idea to all VAs.

Who exactly is the "we" that is trying to impose such rigorous standards on what is actually a hobby? There are VAs that do check rides and VAs that don't. If someone wants that kind of rigor they can join an outfit that supports it.

 

Then there are the Vatsim and IVAO exams for pilots. There are already plenty of ways available to gain virtual (but meaningless) ratings if people choose. If you are making resources available to help then all well and good. But please don't assume everyone sees the hobby as you do.

 

By the way, these addons aren't "professional" in any meaningful sense and if people want to enjoy the sophistication and realism within the structure of a VA but without learning abnormals and emergencies then let them. Please don't try and sell the idea to all VAs.

 

Do I sense you feel threatened here? All for a bunch of forms for those of us that want to raise the standard of flight simming because most flight simmers have never touched a set of flight controls in their life.

whats the point of being in a VA?airlines are aweful(our is the most!worst airline ever:iranair)because of meaningless responsibilities,paper works,op manuals,rules and so on(i'm exampling the ones which are aweful here)

now guess about virtual ones . . .

Whats the point of improving them?they will stay the ones they were.

Why you wanna gather all of procedures?the famous sentence says:"i want you to read the manuals!",forward it to VAs!

@Kevin,youre right.those ratings and names wont beat the cows back.meaningless,useless and the ones you might guess.

And for 250,10k;in iranair,we cant break it in 320 cause our 320s are damn weak and we have to expedite our climbs in summer(due to hot weather.in max tow in EG(320-211) at summer,ac wont give us high rates like 2000,3000 or more,so we have to expedite climb)so if we want to break 250,we cant!

I always do failures in the ngx could never get passed the dual engine failure after takeoff

...because too many of the virtual airlines still believe you can't bust 250 knots under 10,000 feet. Ever.

Fact. Or taxi above 20 knots.

Do I sense you feel threatened here? All for a bunch of forms for those of us that want to raise the standard of flight simming because most flight simmers have never touched a set of flight controls in their life.

No you do not sense me feeling threatened.  You sense me being angered by the presumptions you are making.  Also, it would be nice (not to say polite) if you addressed the questions and points I raised rather than deflecting them by infering that my not agreeing with you is somehow my problem.

 

There you go again about "us".  Who do you represent, or do you simply assume you speak for many?  Why do you think the hobby needs reforming or improving? Some people may be interested in going into abnormals and emergencies in greater depth, but you seem to be suggesting some kind of hobby-wide standardisation.  A kind of Virtual FAA.  Not everybody will welcome it, no matter how much you might like the idea of being at the head of it.  It should, at most, be an option.  Some people simply don't have the time for the extra study involved.  Others don't want the intrusion of checkrides.  Others simply don't care and just want to clock up hundreds of hours on long hauls they didn't actually supervise much, let alone actively fly.

 

Having people study and practice such procedures will not help their virtual flying very much.  Such procedures mostly aren't about flying at all.  Mostly you'll be in AP if available while you deal with the problem.  Also, the vast majority of real flights are accomplished without the need for these procedures to be used.  Most real pilots will only ever see an engine failure at V1 in the simulator.  Far more improvement could be made by getting people to follow normal procedures better.

 

I came to VA flying after years of simming and with a long career in real world flight simulation.  The last thing I wanted to do was join a VA that treated me like a beginner and demanded I do what some so-called "Chief Pilot" says even though I know more about the aircraft than he ever will.  Jumping through hoops, passing exams to be allowed to fly a type, etc.  There are VAs like this and some people must like the experience, but it is not for me.  Especially when the people who run them are frequently ill informed.  So I chose my first VA which was a start up and had minimal BS (to begin with).  When the BS became an issue I left for my present VA, which is extremely well organised and yet at the same time very relaxed and friendly.  There are plans for a "career path", with ratings, but it's an option.

 

There are many VA pilots why fly default aircraft, or freeware.  How would your scheme work for them?

 

Simming is not a stepping stone to professional flying.  Some may use it as a way to a prepare for a real career but many are at the other end of their professional lives.  The idea of having your ratings on peoples' forum signature banners is silly.  How would you stop people just writing whatever they wanted in their signatures?  I'll say again, this is primarily a hobby.  It does not need someone trying to make a position for themselves within it by attempting to regulate it. Hobbys and regulation do not mix.

IAF747 that would be a great idea . And as far as the Vatsim/ VAs topic goes , Its been some time since the last time someone at vatsim got me to the point I just sign off and continue on short final off line .... After waking up early in the morning spending almost half a day in a 757x the last thing I want to do is come home and get anal about how i flight the sim too. Just my 002 cents ....

No you do not sense me feeling threatened.  You sense me being angered by the presumptions you are making.  Also, it would be nice (not to say polite) if you addressed the questions and points I raised rather than deflecting them by infering that my not agreeing with you is somehow my problem.

 

There you go again about "us".  Who do you represent, or do you simply assume you speak for many?  Why do you think the hobby needs reforming or improving? Some people may be interested in going into abnormals and emergencies in greater depth, but you seem to be suggesting some kind of hobby-wide standardisation.  A kind of Virtual FAA.  Not everybody will welcome it, no matter how much you might like the idea of being at the head of it.  It should, at most, be an option.  Some people simply don't have the time for the extra study involved.  Others don't want the intrusion of checkrides.  Others simply don't care and just want to clock up hundreds of hours on long hauls they didn't actually supervise much, let alone actively fly.

 

Having people study and practice such procedures will not help their virtual flying very much.  Such procedures mostly aren't about flying at all.  Mostly you'll be in AP if available while you deal with the problem.  Also, the vast majority of real flights are accomplished without the need for these procedures to be used.  Most real pilots will only ever see an engine failure at V1 in the simulator.  Far more improvement could be made by getting people to follow normal procedures better.

 

I came to VA flying after years of simming and with a long career in real world flight simulation.  The last thing I wanted to do was join a VA that treated me like a beginner and demanded I do what some so-called "Chief Pilot" says even though I know more about the aircraft than he ever will.  Jumping through hoops, passing exams to be allowed to fly a type, etc.  There are VAs like this and some people must like the experience, but it is not for me.  Especially when the people who run them are frequently ill informed.  So I chose my first VA which was a start up and had minimal BS (to begin with).  When the BS became an issue I left for my present VA, which is extremely well organised and yet at the same time very relaxed and friendly.  There are plans for a "career path", with ratings, but it's an option.

 

There are many VA pilots why fly default aircraft, or freeware.  How would your scheme work for them?

 

Simming is not a stepping stone to professional flying.  Some may use it as a way to a prepare for a real career but many are at the other end of their professional lives.  The idea of having your ratings on peoples' forum signature banners is silly.  How would you stop people just writing whatever they wanted in their signatures?  I'll say again, this is primarily a hobby.  It does not need someone trying to make a position for themselves within it by attempting to regulate it. Hobbys and regulation do not mix.

 

My 'scheme' is for those who want to participate. It is not regulation. It is purely to have the satisfaction that we simulate proper check rides. I thought there was room for everyone here......

 

But obviously you seem upset with my idea. 

 

How can I impose my idea on VA's?

 

It seems like you are not short for time on this subject.

 

I'll let you continue to write huge protesting arguments. I don't see the point. I'll still make my forms and you can cry about it.

Munch munch munch...the cat is getting fatter.