Does anyone else find the engines a bit overpowered, especially during climb?

 

I had to retard power to about 28% in order to climb at 250kts, with a realistic pitch.... What also feels a bit strange is that in cruise (at 327kts), I retarded throttles to idle, and the speed bled off so slowly..... It took around 1 minute of idle power to get from 327 kts, to 300 kts.

 

So I would summarize that the power aspect of the FDE feels :-

• Overly sluggish on the ground (about 60% throttle to get moving)
• Overpowered during climb (not as bad as the CS732, but still overpowered)
• Far too slippery; in level flight, at idle, the aircraft seems to bleed speed off unrealistically slowly.

Do any other users have any comments or feedback on these aspects?

Hhhmmm I haven't noticed that at all, mine seems to be different. Weird.

 

I often switch the planes I fly regularly, we'll recently with all the great releases anyway but I can't stay away from this one

Does anyone else find the engines a bit overpowered, especially during climb?

 

I had to retard power to about 28% in order to climb at 250kts, with a realistic pitch....   What also feels a bit strange is that in cruise (at 327kts), I retarded throttles to idle, and the speed bled off so slowly.....    It took around 1 minute of idle power to get from 327 kts, to 300 kts.

 

So I would summarize that the power aspect of the FDE feels :-

 

• Overly sluggish on the ground (about 60% throttle to get moving)
• Overpowered during climb (not as bad as the CS732, but still overpowered)
• Far too slippery; in level flight, at idle, the aircraft seems to bleed speed off unrealistically slowly.

 

Do any other users have any comments or feedback on these aspects?

I find ground roll to be similar to other planes, most need silly amounts to get going.

 

For climb I configured my plane to be pretty full so not overpowered, have you changed your loadout in the config manager?

 

I'm watching the Just Planes Alaska air DVD on the 737 200 and when they talk about the gravel kit a comment is made about the landing gear not being able to be used for descent to slow the plane down. When you look at them being low bypass turbofans they just don't have the frontal area of a modern high bypass fan to provide drag so maybe this is why they feel more slippy in descent?

You do need quite a bit of thrust to start taxiing but in flight it seems fine

I have a comment.  Why are you worried about stuff like this?  Don't you know that the whole point of buying this airplane is to reward the developers for their hard work and dedication, and that the plane itself is not important?   Geeesh, some people can just never be pleased with anything and just want to be negative.  Rivet-counters...

 

:crazy: sarcasm not aimed at Q400.  I just get tired of seeing anybody who decides the plane isn't for them and says so has to get thrashed by those who feel it is their duty to praise and shrug off any issue with the airplane itself.  When somebody announces that they aren't satisfied, does it really need to be followed up by 20 posts about "some people" never being satisfied with anything, and therefore, by implication, A-hole

Glad to see support for the devs,+1. These guys have worked their asses of for us simmers and some folks just cant give them a break.

Glad to see support for the devs,+1. These guys have worked their asses of for us simmers and some folks just cant give them a break.

 

Poor poor developers.  They just can't catch a break...

 

Ridiculous!!!!

 

This thread has about 400 posts proclaiming how the aircraft is an insta-buy/you won't be dissapointed/all hail the mighty Milviz/ and then just a handful of posts from people who have announced that they decided to pass.

Poor poor developers. They just can't catch a break...

 

Ridiculous!!!!

What's your problem, if you don't like it leave the thread

What's your problem, if you don't like it leave the thread

+1

What's your problem, if you don't like it leave the thread

 

My problem is that every thread on a new airplane appears to be reserved only for those who have positive comments and praise.  Somebody really isn't able to voice that they didn't like it or to give even a mild critique of it without being drowned out by the fan-brigade.  I made the observation because the moment that somebody announced that the airplane didn't fit their wants/needs, there was an onslaught of posts about how some can never be satisfied by anything, and those poor poor developers who selflessly toil away only to hear nothing but criticism, and how this and how that....Let's get real, folks.

My problem is that every thread on a new airplane appears to be reserved only for those who have positive comments and praise.  Somebody really isn't able to voice that they didn't like it or to give even a mild critique of it without being drowned out by the fan-brigade.  I made the observation because the moment that somebody announced that the airplane didn't fit their wants/needs, there was an onslaught of posts about how some can never be satisfied by anything, and those poor poor developers who selflessly toil away only to hear nothing but criticism, and how this and how that....Let's get real, folks.

 

Just like you have the privilege of criticizing constructively, others have the privilege of saying nice things about a developer or product.  There's no reason to come into this topic and start agitating others because many did not have the same views as yours.  You just need to take a deep breath.  If you are being overwhelmed by members who like a product, simply move on or provide some good constructive criticism but don't get upset because many like the product.  It's AVSIM's goal to provide an educational and entertainment resource for people with similar interests and a community that is fun to be part of by users from around the world.  AVSIM is here for some good, clean fun!   I remind you too that the AVSIM Term's of Service specifically state there is no "Freedom of Speech" here.  If you continue your short tirade here, I'll have to ban you from making any further comments here in this topic.  Thank you for your cooperation.

 

Jim Young

AVSIM Moderator

No tirade and it isn't my intention to be troublemaker.  I just think it is extremely disrespectful of fellow avsim members when somebody says that the plane isn't for them, and then the next twenty posts they have to read are basically about "customers who won't be pleased with anything."  That hurts, because it is clearly meant to minimize somebody's point of view, that's all, and that's why I responded the way I did.  I'll back off and out,  but it would be nice if others could show some common courtesy too, and try not to pile on so much.

I will check the product page link right away.  Yes

Thanks

Thanks

 

 

Fixed!

Hi all,

 

Re: Ground friction, from standstill.

 

I have tried the modified SIM1.DLL that generally improves ground friction in FSX, but still this aircraft needs a lot more thrust to get rolling than any others in the hangar.   Perhaps thats realistic - having never flown a real 732 I would not know; but it just seems strange to be getting up to 60% N1 before this bird will start rolling.       Similarly with the climb thrust; it just feels odd to be needing to retard to 28% N1 to get a 250kts climb, with a sensible pitch / VS.

 

Also, re: the SP177.    I've noticed that it is necessary to engage "ALT HOLD" to activate the vertical speed mode, for a climb or descent.   In the real SP177, the ALT HOLD is purely a level off mode that will level off at the altitude at which it was pressed.  A climb or descent would be achieved simply by having a higher/lower altitude dialled into the MCP ALT window, and selecting VS (or FLCH).     

 

In summary, this is another "Default C172 AP" type behaviour, that I hope will be changed when the custom AP is introduced.

 

Thanks :smile:

Also, re: the SP177.    I've noticed that it is necessary to engage "ALT HOLD" to activate the vertical speed mode, for a climb or descent.   In the real SP177, the ALT HOLD is purely a level off mode that will level off at the altitude at which it was pressed.

Do you (or anyone else) have a real world manual for the SP-177? I was never able to locate one, despite hours of "googling" using every keyword under the sun...

 

I had no trouble at all getting a real world manual for the SP-77...

a video for all the 732 Fans, enjoy!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbrmE17M_08

 

Filmed April 27 2011

 

Bad example. The cockpit textues are outrageously clean and clear. Don't look realistic at all.  

 

Dirk.

 

PS: Irony aside I wish some talanted GFX guy refurbished the VC textures, to add as an option