Hate to nitpick but are the chocking procedures also Boeing recommended? I am a ramp worker and the way I see the 777 chocked in the screen shots are a definite no no. Main gear chocks are to never go between the wheels on a bogie. It should be the front and back of the bogie. The reason is that the chock needs to be in a position that is can be removed without difficulty. Trust me, when a 777 rolls back on the chocks, it is troublesome to pry it loose. :lol:

 

 

I am a ramp worker and the way I see the 777 chocked in the screen shots are a definite no no.

 

Most airlines have their own takes on things like this.  I've been in ops where the nose gear alone was just fine, and others where if every wheel wasn't chocked, everyone was gonna die.

Most airlines have their own takes on things like this.  I've been in ops where the nose gear alone was just fine, and others where if every wheel wasn't chocked, everyone was gonna die.

 

Yep I see that Qatar likes to use 4 chocks on the nose gear here at ORD in addition to the main chocks.

Hate to nitpick but are the chocking procedures also Boeing recommended? I am a ramp worker and the way I see the 777 chocked in the screen shots are a definite no no. Main gear chocks are to never go between the wheels on a bogie. It should be the front and back of the bogie. The reason is that the chock needs to be in a position that is can be removed without difficulty. Trust me, when a 777 rolls back on the chocks, it is troublesome to pry it loose. :lol:

yeah that's a no go ... never in between wheels. I still carry out a mini walk round after the headset man and engineer have done their full walk checking behind, between wheels and for pins before I push back. I'm in management now so don't do as much pushing but still keep my ticket valid for a change of scenery or if one on the ramp go sick.

Ya I am painfully aware of the airlines preferences but between the wheels? I would like to see the person try to get that out if the plane is on an inclined gate. Here at cyyz the 777s from the middle east only want 4 chocks, main gear only on the outboard wheels. Cathay, KLM and air France wants 8 chocks. The nose gear gets 4. Cathay wants the outboard main gear chocked and the others want the inboard. The most militant airline I know of is UPS. They want all wheels chocked and the must be 2 inches from the tires or there will be trouble ( oh yes they measure it). The same for the coning procedures.

interestingly, the 777 refuses to pushback when on the chocks, either using AES or the CDU pushback. I was sat at SFO yesterday wondering why the pushback tug guy was just sitting there with AES when  I suddenly realised I had left the chocks in place!

interestingly, the 777 refuses to pushback when on the chocks, either using AES or the CDU pushback. I was sat at SFO yesterday wondering why the pushback tug guy was just sitting there with AES when  I suddenly realised I had left the chocks in place!

 

Yeah, tried that with an A320 as well, in the real world. It refused to pushback. Interestingly, it was because the chocks were in place... 

Singapore Airlines wants their 777-200ER to be fully chocked (every wheel) in CPH. 
Dont understand why, but that's how it is ;-)
 

 

 

Dont understand why, but that's how it is ;-)

 

Two words:

Notional security.

 

If chocking one wheel means it won't move, chocking all of them means that it adds safety to that magnitude!!!  Nope...

 

One or two is enough, even for nasty winds.

One or two is enough, even for nasty winds.

 

 Depends on the size of the chock...

 Depends on the size of the chock...

 

True, but assuming you're using an appropriately-sized chock, what I see many airlines do is just pure notional security, and adds little value.

just to set a example on a cargo or any other AC what i like to see is chocks all around on the outer side of the wheels and on the mains on the outer side not in between  and a few inches away . the one mistake that some new ramps guys do is kick the chock under the wheel and later on here comes push back time and you have a fully loaded plane (777)  or the like and a set of chocks stock on both sides of the wheels and that is not a pretty picture im sure YSFSIM  may had seen this before.....

just to set a example on a cargo or any other AC what i like to see is chocks all around on the outer side of the wheels and on the mains on the outer side not in between  and a few inches away . the one mistake that some new ramps guys do is kick the chock under the wheel and later on here comes push back time and you have a fully loaded plane (777)  or the like and a set of chocks stock on both sides of the wheels and that is not a pretty picture im sure YSFSIM  may had seen this before.....

roger that

interestingly, the 777 refuses to pushback when on the chocks, either using AES or the CDU pushback. I was sat at SFO yesterday wondering why the pushback tug guy was just sitting there with AES when  I suddenly realised I had left the chocks in place!

I'd be thinking someone from Aerosoft messed with my AES and trolling me because have the 777 :-P

GSX notifies you to remove chock, I did that with the NGX by accident one time.