August 19, 201312 yr Doing a test flight, all the same conditions, from FSDT KLAX in the AirbusX I'm getting 4-5 FPS more and much smoother panning with it set at the default "False" setting. And by simply zooming out I can get pretty much the same view provided by setting it to "True." You can even go edit the camera defaults to permanently fix this. So what is even the point of this tweak that's been an "everyone just do it" tweak for years? Does it change texture rendering in some way as well? I've always had it in my .cfg because it seemed like a no brainer but it's definently affecting FPS and adding stutters, at least on my system.I got the same results testing at KPHX as well in the NGX.
August 19, 201312 yr WideAspect = False definitely gives a drop in frames, on my system. Benchmarked it myself. Around 3 FPS drop when using False compared to True. If you're seeing the opposite to that there must be some reason for that.
August 19, 201312 yr "Wideview=true" is definitively a frame killer for me but I couldn't even begin to tell you what the FPS difference would be because the feature doesn't appeal to me. I don't like the 'fish-eye' look of FSX with this feature on. Doesn't look natural at all. JJ Jean-Jacques CYND, Gatineau-Ottawa Executive Airport, Gatineau, Quebec, Canada
August 19, 201312 yr 3 frames! The World is divided into two groups. Those who say "Give me a link" and those that provide the link. WWG1WGA
August 20, 201312 yr No difference here. But FSX does not look good on wide screen. Airplanes continues with stretched look is odd. It is the most disappointing bug on FSX in my opinion. It is curious that FS9 is possible to fly on wide screen without no problem, even when it was released nobody (or almost nobody) used to have widescreen monitors...
August 20, 201312 yr Commercial Member Black and White posts right from the start. :lol: I tested this few times, and never noticed any FPS difference. Current system: ASUS PRIME Z690-P D4, Intel 12900k, 32GB RAM @ 3600mhz, Zotac RTX 3090 Trinity, M2 SSD, Oculus Quest 2.
August 20, 201312 yr ??????? If my parameter name is correct then the parameter is "WideViewAspect=" Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
August 20, 201312 yr I have it set to true, and no fish eye. I do have a camera cofig tweaked via NickN @ simforums. As FP posted, make sure the line reads WideViewAspect=True in FSX.cfg, not widescreenAspect as the OP posted. Copy this and replace in your camera.cfg ( resides where your fsx.cfg is. Change setting to true in wideaspect and see if you still get "fish Eye" [CameraDefinition.001]Title = CockpitGuid = {B1386D92-4782-4682-A137-738E25D1BAB5}Description = This is the description of the cockpit viewOrigin = CockpitShowPanel = YesSnapPbhAdjust = OrdinalSnapPbhReturn = TruePanPbhAdjust = OrdinalPanPbhReturn = TrueTrack = NoneShowAxis = FrontOnlyAllowZoom = TRUEInitialZoom = 1.0SmoothZoomTime = 2.0ShowWeather = YesXyzAdjust = TRUEShowLensFlare=FALSECategory = CockpitHotKeySelect=2[CameraDefinition.002]Title = Virtual CockpitGuid = {C95EAB58-9E4A-4E2A-A34C-D8D9D948F078}Description = This is the description of the virtual cockpit view.Origin = Virtual CockpitMomentumEffect =YesSnapPbhAdjust = SwivelSnapPbhReturn = FalsePanPbhAdjust = SwivelPanPbhReturn = FalseTrack = NoneShowAxis = YESAllowZoom = TRUEInitialZoom = 0.6SmoothZoomTime = 2.0ZoomPanScalar = 1.0ShowWeather = YesXyzAdjust = TRUEShowLensFlare=TrueCategory = CockpitPitchPanRate=30HeadingPanRate=75PanAcceleratorTime=0HotKeySelect=1clipmode=Minimum[CameraDefinition.003]Title = SpotGuid = {BCA3FDD1-FB83-4BBA-8407-4922A7F0D00C}Description = This is the description of the spot view.Origin = CenterSnapPbhAdjust = OrdinalSnapPbhReturn = FalsePanPbhAdjust = SwivelPanPbhReturn = FalseTrack = FlatChaseShowAxis = NoAllowZoom = YesInitialZoom = 1.4SmoothZoomTime = 2.0ShowWeather = YesXyzAdjust = FALSETransition = YesShowLensFlare=TRUECategory = OutsideClipMode = SpotPitchPanRate=30HeadingPanRate=75PanAcceleratorTime=0[CameraDefinition.004]Title = Locked SpotGuid = {BCA3FDD1-FB83-4BBA-8407-4922A7F0D00D}Description = This is the description of the spot view.Origin = CenterSnapPbhAdjust = SwivelSnapPbhReturn = FalsePanPbhAdjust = SwivelPanPbhReturn = FalseTrack = FlatChaseLockedShowAxis = NoAllowZoom = YesInitialZoom = 0.6SmoothZoomTime = 2.0ShowWeather = YesXyzAdjust = FALSETransition = YesShowLensFlare=TRUECategory = OutsideClipMode = SpotPitchPanRate=30HeadingPanRate=75PanAcceleratorTime=0HotKeySelect=3[CameraDefinition.005]Title = FlyByGuid = {6B79DD49-9B4A-439D-BF40-ACBF157B0BA0}Description = This is the description of the fly by view.Origin = CenterSnapPbhAdjust = SwivelSnapPbhReturn = FalsePanPbhAdjust = SwivelPanPbhReturn = FalseTrack = FlyByShowAxis = NoAllowZoom = YesInitialZoom = 10.0SmoothZoomTime = 2.0ShowWeather = YesXyzAdjust = FALSETransition = NoChaseDistance = 500ChaseHeading = 15ChaseAltitude = 10ChaseTime = 20ShowLensFlare=FALSECategory = OutsideClipMode = Tower[CameraDefinition.006]Title = Top-DownGuid = {A2849229-938A-448f-8AC6-01EF2291C171}Description = This is the description of the map or top down view.Origin = CenterSnapPbhAdjust = OrthogonalPanPbhAdjust = OrthogonalTrack = NoneShowAxis = YesAllowZoom = YesInitialZoom = 256SmoothZoomTime = 2.0ShowWeather = NoXyzAdjust = FALSETransition = NoShowLensFlare=FALSECategory = OutsideHotKeySelect=4[CameraDefinition.007]Title = Nearest TowerGuid = {60BC0819-BD04-4AF6-8954-8FC8AA3545FF}Description = This is the description of the tower view.Origin = TowerSnapPbhAdjust = SwivelSnapPbhReturn = FalsePanPbhAdjust = SwivelPanPbhReturn = FalseTrack = TrackShowAxis = NoAllowZoom = YesInitialZoom = 8.0SmoothZoomTime = 2.0ShowWeather = YesXyzAdjust = FALSETransition = NoShowLensFlare=FALSECategory = TowerClipMode = TowerNoSortTitle = True[CameraDefinition.008]Title = Facilities TowerGuid = {AA8C80C0-9EE2-4284-A1C2-B20CD3F5F3D9}Description = This is the description of the tower view.Origin = FixedInstancedBased = YesSnapPbhAdjust = NonePanPbhAdjust = NoneTrack = TrackShowAxis = NoAllowZoom = YesInitialZoom = 8.0SmoothZoomTime = 2.0ShowWeather = YesXyzAdjust = FALSETransition = NoShowLensFlare=FALSECategory = TowerCycleHideRadius = 7ClipMode = Tower[CameraDefinition.009]Title = Facilities RunwayGuid = {607C4520-CA6F-4135-AE10-8BF28838068F}Description = This is the description of the runway view.Origin = Virtual CockpitInstancedBased = YesSnapPbhAdjust = NonePanPbhAdjust = NoneTargetCategory = FixedTrack = TrackBankShowAxis = YesAllowZoom = YesInitialZoom = 1.0SmoothZoomTime = 2.0ShowWeather = YesXyzAdjust = FALSETransition = NoShowLensFlare=FALSECategory = RunwayCycleHideRadius = 7ClipMode = TowerCycleHidden=Yes[CameraDefinition.010]Title = AI PlanesGuid = {75A8357E-AB58-4294-9416-90C73FAFDD90}Description = This is the description of the AI aircraft view.Origin = CenterSnapPbhAdjust = SwivelSnapPbhReturn = FalsePanPbhAdjust = SwivelPanPbhReturn = FalseTrack = FlatChaseLockedInstancedBased = YesShowAxis = NoAllowZoom = YesInitialZoom = 1.0SmoothZoomTime = 2.0ShowWeather = YesXyzAdjust = FALSETransition = NoShowLensFlare=TRUECategory = AirTrafficTargetCategory = ContainerClipMode = SpotPitchPanRate=30HeadingPanRate=75PanAcceleratorTime=0CycleHidden=YesHotKeySelect=5[CameraDefinition.011]Title = Multiplayer PlanesGuid = {2559BCED-9F13-4bc0-88C8-3996B9311681}Description = This is the description of the Multiplayer other aircraft view.Origin = Virtual CockpitInstancedBased = YesSnapPbhAdjust = NonePanPbhAdjust = NoneTargetCategory = ContainerTrack = TrackBankShowAxis = YesAllowZoom = YesInitialZoom = 1.0SmoothZoomTime = 2.0ShowWeather = YesXyzAdjust = FALSETransition = NoShowLensFlare=FALSECategory = MultiPlayerCycleHideRadius = 7ClipMode = TowerCycleHidden=Yes System: MSFS2024, ASUS Rog Stryx Z790-A, Intel i9-14900KF, Asus ROG Ryujin III 360 , Asus Hyperion Case,Rog Stryx 4090 OC, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD, 1Tb Samsung 860 EVO SSD,64Gb G Skill Memory, Asus Aura 1200W Gold PSU,Win 11 ,LG C4 48" 4K OLED Screen., Airbus TCA Full Kit, Stream Deck XL. 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August 20, 201312 yr Author ??????? If my parameter name is correct then the parameter is "WideViewAspect=" It was just a paraphrase of the tweak's name for the title. I'm aware of what the actual .cfg entry is for this tweak.
August 20, 201312 yr I change these entry's,to get my ac to fly right underneath me,in zero wind. With a cross wind,there will be a offset. ChaseDistance = 500 to 0ChaseHeading = 15 to 0ChaseAltitude = 10 to 30ChaseTime = 20 to 10 Jim Driscoll, MSI Raider GE76 12UHS-607 17.3" Gaming Laptop Computer - Blue Intel Core i9 12th Gen 12900HK 1.8GHz Processor; NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 16GB GDDR6; 64GB DDR5-4800 RAM; Dual M2 2TB Solid State Drives.Driving a Sony KD-50X75, and KDL-48R470B @ 4k 3724x2094,MSFS 2020, 30 FPS on Ultra Settings. Jorg/Asobo: “Weather is a core part of our simulator, and we will strive to make it as accurate as possible.”Also Jorg/Asobo: “We are going to limit the weather API to rain intensity only.”
August 20, 201312 yr what's tweaked in those camera entries? First things I noticed that were different are in the VC listing: [CameraDefinition.002] Title = Virtual Cockpit Guid = {C95EAB58-9E4A-4E2A-A34C-D8D9D948F078} Description = This is the description of the virtual cockpit view. Origin = Virtual Cockpit MomentumEffect =Yes SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel SnapPbhReturn = False PanPbhAdjust = Swivel PanPbhReturn = False Track = None ShowAxis = YES AllowZoom = TRUE InitialZoom = 0.6 SmoothZoomTime = 2.0 ZoomPanScalar = 1.0 ShowWeather = Yes XyzAdjust = TRUE ShowLensFlare=True Category = Cockpit PitchPanRate=30 HeadingPanRate=75 PanAcceleratorTime=0 HotKeySelect=1 clipmode=Minimum Jon Preston
August 20, 201312 yr It was just a paraphrase of the tweak's name for the title. I'm aware of what the actual .cfg entry is for this tweak. You need to realize the span of users here. You should take care to be literal with topics like this. To be fair to you, none of the first several posters had the parameter correct. Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
August 20, 201312 yr Wideviewaspect=false : zoom 0.40 is same as zoom 1.0 with true on, if i recall correctly. With True, 0.3 - 0.5 zoom is way too far out, resulting in fish-eye effect. I personally use =TRUE always and zoom ranging from 0.7 to 1.0 depending what I fly and do I have TIR enabled. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4
August 20, 201312 yr Commercial Member Doing a test flight, all the same conditions, from FSDT KLAX in the AirbusX I'm getting 4-5 FPS more and much smoother panning with it set at the default "False" setting. And by simply zooming out I can get pretty much the same view provided by setting it to "True." You can even go edit the camera defaults to permanently fix this. So what is even the point of this tweak that's been an "everyone just do it" tweak for years? Does it change texture rendering in some way as well? I've always had it in my .cfg because it seemed like a no brainer but it's definently affecting FPS and adding stutters, at least on my system. I got the same results testing at KPHX as well in the NGX. No difference here. But FSX does not look good on wide screen. Airplanes continues with stretched look is odd. It is the most disappointing bug on FSX in my opinion. It is curious that FS9 is possible to fly on wide screen without no problem, even when it was released nobody (or almost nobody) used to have widescreen monitors... Wideviewaspect=false : zoom 0.40 is same as zoom 1.0 with true on, if i recall correctly. With True, 0.3 - 0.5 zoom is way too far out, resulting in fish-eye effect. I personally use =TRUE always and zoom ranging from 0.7 to 1.0 depending what I fly and do I have TIR enabled. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 I suggest you guys watch both of these video series': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjbCFNSofpk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blZUao2jTGA The only way I can see it lowering performance is due to the fact that there's more being rendered vs. having it set to False due to the increased horizontal field of view. That's to be expected. The False setting is most definitely mathematically and optically wrong though if you're using a widescreen monitor aspect ratio like 16:9 or 16:10. This is the reason the setting exists. Those videos do a very good job explaining it, watch them. Ryan MaziarzFor fastest support, please submit a ticket at http://support.precisionmanuals.com
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