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Wide Screen Aspect = True a FPS killer?

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Hi,

Setting "WideViewAspect=False" most closely resembles what you would see in the real world when the Backspace key is pressed while in the vc; neither wide angle nor telescopic distortion. It has nothing to do with the display aspect ratio. If the setting had been entitled "WideAngleView" a lot of confusion would have been avoided. It's my opinion that if anyone is interested in transferring the skills learned in FSX to the real world it should never be set to "True".

Jim F.

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Thanks for those links, Ryan. It's nice to finally find someone who sets the zoom the same way I calculated it some time back. Also nice to see exactly what WideViewAspect actually does.

 

How many people use =TRUE and a zoom of 1.0 or higher? I've been using 1.0 myself.

 

Hook

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Use wide screen feature and fly ga planes and hdtv 42" tv where the effect make fsx better with wide screen the especially when stereo 3d in use sometimes. Everybody setup different losing couple fps not a big deal with my setup as do not use complex scenery or aircraft. Be careful with interpeting widescreen tweak.

You need to realize the span of users here.  You should take care to be literal with topics like this.  To be fair to you, none of the first several posters had the parameter correct.

 

Give over!

 

Didn't know the accuracy Police were in the building.............. :rolleyes:  I think we all knew the parameter he was talking about.

 

We're all clearly inferior to you.

How many people use =TRUE and a zoom of 1.0 or higher? I've been using 1.0 myself.

 

 

1.0 might be realistic but it looks awful imho: I went the other direction and use a zoom of 0.4 (with =TRUE)!  ^_^ Yes, you get some sort of fish eye lense view but textures look sharp, you get extra peripheral vision and a greater sense of speed. 1.0 makes me feel claustrophobic. Obviously (and as usual) this is all very subjective. 

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Thanks for those links, Ryan. It's nice to finally find someone who sets the zoom the same way I calculated it some time back. Also nice to see exactly what WideViewAspect actually does.

 

How many people use =TRUE and a zoom of 1.0 or higher? I've been using 1.0 myself.

 

Hook

Personally, I've used it pretty much from day 1 because it's actually the only correct setting, although it sometimes needs the eyepoint to be moved to the correct place. 

 

Using =false, or a different zoom setting, is just personal preference and if people want to do it that's obviously up to them, even though what they're seeing is physically wrong i.e. at a zoom of 0.5 everything outside is twice as far away than it should be.

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Paul Golding

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Hi,

Setting "WideViewAspect=False" most closely resembles what you would see in the real world when the Backspace key is pressed while in the vc; neither wide angle nor telescopic distortion. It has nothing to do with the display aspect ratio. If the setting had been entitled "WideAngleView" a lot of confusion would have been avoided. It's my opinion that if anyone is interested in transferring the skills learned in FSX to the real world it should never be set to "True".

Jim F.

 

Did you actually watch the videos I linked before saying this? This is pure math and physics/optics - it's not wrong and it has absolutely everything to do with display aspect ratio.

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I recently switched over to WideViewAspect=True and have the zoom set to between 0.9 and 1.0 most of the time. It has massively improved my perception of things in the cockpit environment.

I like the 0.9 setting in the NGX, as it gives me a little more peripheral vision in the VC, especially as I pull the seat position back a few notches...

 

Thanks for posting the videos Ryan. His delivery may not be the most gripping, but he gets his point across and clearly.

 

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Andrew Entwistle

I run over 3 monitors with nvidia Surround.  its essential for me = True   otherwise the VC is zoomed so far in, even on full zoom out you are literally sitting with your knees on the dash board !

 

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I think we all knew the parameter he was talking about.

 

Honestly I was not concerned about the small circle of those who originally posted.  I am concerned that others less in the know would go adding stray entries into their .cfg files.  Discussions like this do need to be literal.

 

 

 


We're all clearly inferior to you.

 

That was greatly uncalled for.

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Tabs - I have seen that video before, which i was referencing with my post + my own experience based on the video..

 

1.0 might be realistic but it looks awful imho: I went the other direction and use a zoom of 0.4 (with =TRUE)!  ^_^ Yes, you get some sort of fish eye lense view but textures look sharp, you get extra peripheral vision and a greater sense of speed. 1.0 makes me feel claustrophobic. Obviously (and as usual) this is all very subjective. 

 

Yeah, I also try to use 1.0 nowadays and do too with TrackIR, when looking around is easier with higher zoom. When just using hat switch i prefer to zoom out a bit, 0.7-0.8 which doesn't yet give fish eye (at least my eyes can't see  :rolleyes: ). But yes like said 1.0 with =TRUE on a wideview monitor is closest to what your eyes would see in a cockpit... but sometimes that might not be most usable option, and IMO anything between 0.7-1.0 is okay for me.

Hi,Setting "WideViewAspect=False" most closely resembles what you would see in the real world when the Backspace key is pressed while in the vc; neither wide angle nor telescopic distortion. It has nothing to do with the display aspect ratio. If the setting had been entitled "WideAngleView" a lot of confusion would have been avoided. It's my opinion that if anyone is interested in transferring the skills learned in FSX to the real world it should never be set to "True".Jim F.

Didn't watch the video Ryan posted?

 

The true answer to all of this starts at the 4 minute mark.

 

Summary... Using a wide screen monitor with the default FSX zoom and leaving wideviewaspect=false is wrong. It is only correct for a 4:3 screen.

 

While the author of the video is 100% correct in saying wideviewaspect=true with zoom 1.0 is technically correct, some planes are just hard to fly like that. I have settled on .75 for now as my go to. But understand distance to the screen affects zoom and how your brain interprets what it sees.

 

I would use 1.0 if I had 3 42" lcd's but I don't. I have to compensate with .75 and resign to the fact that I'm zoomed out a little.

 

C.

Hi,

Setting "WideViewAspect=False" most closely resembles what you would see in the real world when the Backspace key is pressed while in the vc; neither wide angle nor telescopic distortion. It has nothing to do with the display aspect ratio. If the setting had been entitled "WideAngleView" a lot of confusion would have been avoided. It's my opinion that if anyone is interested in transferring the skills learned in FSX to the real world it should never be set to "True".

Jim F.

 

Nonsense.

Glenn

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At some airports 3 extra frames might be a 30% increase in performance. :lol:

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I'm a 'True' man, with zoom at 0.60 myself.

 

1.0 is awful, but 0.40 is a bit too scaled back for me. :smile:

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