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Turbine Duke, a month, 62 airports

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So, my little adventure is complete.  My goal was to fly to every towered airport in California (and a few more). 
Along the way my flying changed.  When I started I was flying most of the enroute parts of flights and down to near the approach on autopilot.  As I progressed, I flew more and more by hand until turning on the autopilot was a very rare event...I turned it on twice during the last half of the airports and only for a brief moment while I checked out something I couldn't easily see.  In the end, my skills are nicely improved. 

 

Here's the only screen cap I have of the whole journey.  As luck would have it, KSBA, where it started and ended, was socked in this morning...not a perfect ILS but it did the job...

 

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Along the way, I found a whole lot of great airports and learned some things about areas I'd flown over many times.  Here's a map (messy) that shows the route...every flight interesting. 

 

http://skyvector.com/?ll=34.42624442630951,-119.84143066626542&chart=301&zoom=3&plan=A.K2.KSBA:A.K2.KFAT:A.K2.KMOD:A.K2.KCCR:A.K2.KRNO:A.K2.KSAC:A.K2.KCIC:A.K2.KRDD:A.K2.KACV:A.K2.KSTS:A.K2.KSMF:A.K2.KAPC:A.K2.KSCK:A.K2.KOAK:A.K2.KSNS:A.K2.KSFO:A.K2.KLVK:A.K2.KSCK:A.K2.KSQL:A.K2.KMOD:A.K2.KMER:A.K2.KPAO:A.K2.KHAF:A.K2.KSJC:A.K2.KMRY:A.K2.KSBP:A.K2.KHWD:A.K2.KPRB:A.K2.KBFL:A.K2.KTOA:A.K2.KRNM:A.K2.KSBD:A.K2.KOXR:A.K2.KSDM:A.K2.KTRM:A.K2.KSEE:A.K2.KPMD:A.K2.KSMO:A.K2.KMHV:A.K2.KRAL:A.K2.KIPL:A.K2.KSMX:A.K2.KCNO:A.K2.KWHP:A.K2.KHHR:A.K2.KCRQ:A.K2.KFUL:A.K2.KPOC:A.K2.KPSP:A.K2.KLAX:A.K2.KSAN:A.K2.KVNY:A.K2.KVCV:A.K2.KSNA:A.K2.KMYF:A.K2.KEMT:A.K2.KLGB:A.K2.KWJF:A.K2.KONT:A.K2.KBUR:A.K2.KCMA:A.K2.KSBA

 

I'm curious what adventures others have created for themselves that might also be interesting. 

 

Gregg

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Nice adventure! To bad you only had 1 screenshot..I usually take a dozen every flight :D

 

 

 

My adventure is my Europe tour on the IVAO network.  From scandinavia,mostly from Arlanda if possible I am flying to every country in Europe.direct if possible.  But flying to gibraltar would mean a stopover at Luton or Heathrow :)

After that it would probably be long hauls to all continents from Europe :)

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Nice adventure! To bad you only had 1 screenshot..I usually take a dozen every flight :D

 

 

 

My adventure is my Europe tour on the IVAO network.  From scandinavia,mostly from Arlanda if possible I am flying to every country in Europe.direct if possible.  But flying to gibraltar would mean a stopover at Luton or Heathrow :)

After that it would probably be long hauls to all continents from Europe :)

 

 

Yeah, I had to do a replay to get it.  The ceiling was supposed to be 300 AGL but I broke out into that picture closer to 200. 

 

I think I'm going to start doing some Europe flying.  No scenery yet but it'll have to do for now.

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I wish I had the time to do something like this.  Between the wife and work I dont get much sim time.  

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Gregg,

 

After such a journey, any airport that sticks out such as interesting, challenging, or just plane beautiful to fly into?   I think your next goal is to fly to all non-towered airstrips in Cali!  That will keep ya busy! :lol:

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Gregg,

 

After such a journey, any airport that sticks out such as interesting, challenging, or just plane beautiful to fly into?   I think your next goal is to fly to all non-towered airstrips in Cali!  That will keep ya busy! :lol:

 

Well, I need more work on shorter runways so any of the airports that had ~3000 ft runways were the more challenging....KSQL, KPAO were both tougher.  Also, there were two airports that had serious updrafts on final...KRAL, KMOD (I think)...which made them tougher...especially KRAL.  KSEE is down in a circle of mountains, tight in the KSAN airpace and has a short runway.    KHHR is so close to KLAX you could walk over and has short runway.  I enjoyed flying KFAT, KHWD, KCCR. KMHV, KSNS, and KSAC.  There were some others but I don't remember which ones.  I have Megascenery SoCal down south but the rest were all default scenery with UTX which, actually, looked pretty good.

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Wow!  Nice job, Gregg.  Seriously cool little project.

 

I'm afraid that I don't have your discipline, as my adventures seem more oriented towards recreating flights I've either done, or would have liked to have done, rather than anything as encompassing as yours. 

 

The one grand tour that I'd like to do would be to recreate the 2 week flying trip I did to Alaska in 1997.  The biggest problem is that I'd like to do it in RW weather and in a plane like the 337, 210 or B55 - IFR capable, but no known ice cert.  In these kinds of planes, most of the legs become VFR only due to icing and MEAs, and that means it's pretty tough to recreate.  IRL, we had remarkably good wx, only getting delayed for 1 day due to wx, but that was beyond lucky.

 

Good job on the hand flying as well, BTW.

 

Scott

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Good job on the hand flying as well, BTW.

 

Thanks Scott,

 

The hand flying made it a lot more fun and it was great to see my skill getting better and better as the project progressed.  I can now hold to within 50 ft of altitude and less then 5 degrees heading.  For the most part, it's a lot better (30-40 ft. 1-2 degrees) but when I'm turning dials and looking at maps I slip a bit.  I guess that's the challenge.  Always something to work on. 

 

Well, the trees are turning so maybe I'll take a flight up across the north.

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Hi Gregg the Duke is a great plane to fly isn't it? Shes very hard to fly by hand.I fly it 95% of the time for months now. Your adventure sounds exciting I may try it. Thanks for sharing it.

 

What weather program are you using?

 

 

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i Gregg the Duke is a great plane to fly isn't it? Shes very hard to fly by hand.I fly it 95% of the time for months now. Your adventure sounds exciting I may try it. Thanks for sharing it.

What weather program are you using?

 

I use Active Sky...very happy with it.  Flying the Duke...and getting to know it inside and out...was my big goal when I decided to do this.  I was looking for something interesting to do to get there and that's where the idea came from. 

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I use Active Sky...very happy with it. Flying the Duke...and getting to know it inside and out...was my big goal when I decided to do this. I was looking for something interesting to do to get there and that's where the idea came from.

Yep getting to know your plane inside and out is challenge and fun. I would jump from plane to plane but it always seemed like I was playing a video game. I have a program call Ideal Flight and it will randomly pick airports base on if there is a ILS,parking,tower or other features. Well off to fly.

 

 

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A very cool adventure indeed and a great choice on the plane, Gregg. :-) The task of flying all legs by hand :-D also comes in like a lot fun. I might be inspired to do the same thing in lets say the upcoming piston Duke update.

 

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A very cool adventure indeed and a great choice on the plane, Gregg. :-) The task of flying all legs by hand :-D also comes in like a lot fun. I might be inspired to do the same thing in lets say the upcoming piston Duke update.

 

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Truly, I don't know that I could've done it unless I'd have flown by hand.  Autopilot makes it pretty boring...and flying by hand with all of the other stuff you have to do makes it not only more interesting, it makes it feel more real.  I'm looking forward to the Duke updates as well!

 

Gregg

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Greg,

If you do something like this again you should go to blogspot.com or an equivalent site and create a blog with an entry for each flight.  You could post a screenshot or two and write up a brief narative for each segment, and post progressive images of the map showing your progress.  I did this on a real world road trip when my wife and I retired and moved from So Cal to Eastern Maryland, visiting all the places we had lived on the way (over 40 years).  If you like I can send you a PM with the link to that blog so you see better what I mean.  Would add even more value to your trek and would certainly be followed by a number of us here.

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Greg,

If you do something like this again you should go to blogspot.com or an equivalent site and create a blog with an entry for each flight.  You could post a screenshot or two and write up a brief narative for each segment, and post progressive images of the map showing your progress.  I did this on a real world road trip when my wife and I retired and moved from So Cal to Eastern Maryland, visiting all the places we had lived on the way (over 40 years).  If you like I can send you a PM with the link to that blog so you see better what I mean.  Would add even more value to your trek and would certainly be followed by a number of us here.

Hey FP,

 

Sure...love to see your trip.  I hope I do something like this again but I'll have to think about what.  Hmmm.

 

Gregg

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I ddn't install my piston Duke this time because I am aware that Real Air will release an upgrade in the future. So, I 'd rather wait for it, but reading your delightful story makes me want to install it anyway :-)

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I ddn't install my piston Duke this time because I am aware that Real Air will release an upgrade in the future. So, I 'd rather wait for it, but reading your delightful story makes me want to install it anyway :-)

 

The piston Duke would probably have to take a pass on a couple of the airports due to runway length.  But if you did do a similar thing, perhaps someplace else, you could just filter out some airports based on that factor.  It's your adventure...you make the rules!

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I too am looking forward to the piston Duke upgrade. This is a very easy plane to hand fly (a lot easier than the Turbine Duke), and I have no problem getting it in and out of strips only 600 metres long (although that is with a 50 per cent fuel load). The Turbine Duke is even better with the help of reverse propellor pitch. I am surprised that you consider ~3000 feet as challenging in this plane, because it can do half that!

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I am surprised that you consider ~3000 feet as challenging in this plane, because it can do half that!

 

It's just something I have to work on.

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The aspect of the Turbine Duke that I find most difficult is the ground handling (particularly on grass). The throttle controls are so sensitive that I end up either not moving at all, or suddenly accelerating rapidly!

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The aspect of the Turbine Duke that I find most difficult is the ground handling (particularly on grass). The throttle controls are so sensitive that I end up either not moving at all, or suddenly accelerating rapidly!

I use the condition levers for taxi, mostly.  I might goose the throttles a bit but then put them at idle and adjust the condition levers as needed.  Tried using the reversers but when you come out of reverse it just seems to accelerate again.

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Must agree on the taxi behaviour of the plane being the only downside. That's with having in mind that it's a treat to actual fly. But taxi.. oh my. I think I've posted something on this a while back over at Carenado's place.

 

The layout unfortunately got mixed up with a forum soft update. http://forum.avsim.net/topic/362241-oil-temp/#entry2255389

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/362241-oil-temp/#entry2263377 Well, the point being that there are some small points regarding the T Duke which are very unique.

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Not sure if this will help but, when I taxi I:

  • put condition levers full forward
  • release brakes
  • nudge the power until the airplane gets moving
  • Once I'm out of my turn, I pull the condition levers back a bit and watch my TRQ as it creeps up.  Once it gets to about 9ish I'm pulling the condition levers back, slowly to about halfway, looking for a TRQ between 12-13%.  Seems to be a good taxi speed at that setting.

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The key to taxiing the T Duke is to use the condition levers. Just a small forward movement will easily sustain your speed. On surfaces with more friction you might need just a small amount of throttle to get moving but the trick is to go back to idle as soon as you are moving and control speed again with the condition levers. Because turbine engines are slower to respond they need a certain amount of anticipation.

 

Regarding the beta range, unfortunately FSX does not make it easy to use beta in a smooth and slow fashion. Unless you have a sophisticated analogue control, pressing F2 then F1 will produce full reverse folllowed by immediate idle. That quick movement will inevitably put the props from full reverse power into full forward fine and that leads to sudden forward acceleration while the engine revs die down.. When landing and using full reverse, the technique to avoid a sudden lurch into forward fine is to slowly move the throttles forward from beta range as your speed decays to fast taxi speed. In this way the reaction will be much more predictable.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Rob - RealAir

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