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Do I need PFPX?

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CoolP, glad you found it. Very good program as long as you have the upper wins from active sky.

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Is it possible to load a PFPX flight plan directly into a PMDG FMC/FMS? So that it comes up as a "Company Route"?

 

Thanks, Bruce.

ASEL, Instrument.

KBJC, Colorado.

Thanks again, Mark. This looks like a lot of fun if I find the time for Concorde routes soon.

 

Is it possible to load a PFPX flight plan directly into a PMDG FMC/FMS? So that it comes up as a "Company Route"?

Doesn't it do that already when you define the export folders once and then save the plans to the PMDG locations?

Doesn't it do that already when you define the export folders once and then save the plans to the PMDG locations?

I don't know, I don't yet have PFPX, which is why I asked.

ASEL, Instrument.

KBJC, Colorado.

Sorry, Bruce. I forgot about the pre-purchase status. :blush: How have you even managed to resist the hype so far?  :O  ^_^

 

Seriously, there are tons of export filters, sort of like with EFB, which let you save the plans in the most common formats. I haven't tried all of them but PMDG format(s) are available and seem to work.

 

So far, even adding new formats seems easy since the devs quickly pick the suggestions and later incorporate the syntax changes in an update. So things look good that PFPX soon is able to drive all sorts of addons via proper flight plan files.

 

PMDG currently is offered in three different fp formats and one for the wind stuff on the T7.

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Is it possible to load a PFPX flight plan directly into a PMDG FMC/FMS? So that it comes up as a "Company Route"?

 

Thanks, Bruce.

Yes, I have done so with the 737ngx and 777. Also, uploaded the winds and was able to import them into the 777 fmc. 

Yes, I have done so with the 737ngx and 777. Also, uploaded the winds and was able to import them into the 777 fmc.

 

Thanks red259, also Cool IP.....

ASEL, Instrument.

KBJC, Colorado.

What other flight planners can create a *.rte flight plan so that it can be exported, and loaded into the PMDG 737NGX?  I want to be able to skip the manual loading of waypoints into the FMC and would like for the planner to do this for me.  I understand PFPX can do this, are there any others?

Thanks,

jim

EFB isn't creating the flight plan. You get linked to an online free planner via the program. 

 

No, thats not correct, it creates the entire flight plan right within the application itself, from the navigraph cycle data and FSX data, and includes everything, the SIDs, routes, STAR's, approaches, the works... But it does ALSO have the ability to let you import flight plans from flight planning websites too, then can save them in various formats. I keep my EFB updated with the navigraph cycles to that it matches the FMC on my NGX..

 

I dont have PFPX, so cant compare, but those making the claims that EFB cant do this/that/the other are wrong...

 

Oops, sorry about the book vs bag. Wasn't meant to upset people. :blush: Richard, I was and still am on the planning aspect when comparing software to allow for creating valid routes (PFPX, FSC, FSB..) to another element in the chain, the one displaying the outcome (EFBag).

 

I agree that hacking in EGLL DCT KJFK creates a route. But I also think the stuff in between is what we would call 'a plan'. :smile: Better that way?

 

Didnt upset anybody mate lol, I just wanted to correct the incorrect in case others read this and think EFB cant do this or that, when in fact it can...

 

For me, EFB is both simple and awesome as I can create the entire flight plan within EFB, save it to PMDG Format right into the NGX Routes folder on my main FSX PC, load it up in the NGX and from my second PC, follow the entire route on the live map, and have EFB show me the correct charts at all times for the stage of flight I am in. This, for my amateur level is perfect. Especially when taxiing around EHAM trying to work out where the hell to park :-) Plus its all paperless, so no printing stuff, its all on-screen as and only when needed.

 

I dare say PFPX is 10x better for flight plans, but I love EFB's live moving map, showing me the right charts when needed, and it takes me all of 60 seconds to create the flight plan and save it as a PMDG flight plan, all ready to go.. Keeping it simple is great for me whilst still learning the NGX... Heck I can only just barely get the 737-700 from 1 airport to another at the moment, and am still re-visiting the tutorials for info in the limited time I get to flight sim...

 

Not knocking PFPX at all, as like I said, I have never seen it live working, but just wanted to be clear on what EFB DOES do to those who are saying it doesnt.

 

Anyway, I gotta go check my Facebag now and catch up with some buddies :-) ha haaaaaa

Richard...
Amateur Pilot and UK Web Hosting Guru 🙂

Hmm, odd, mine never does that, it can create the entire flight plan right within the application itself, SIDs, routes, STAR's, approaches, the works... Then can save them in various formats.

I dont have PFPX, so cant compare, but those making the claims that EFB cant do this/that/the other are wrong...

 

 

Didnt upset anybody mate lol, I just wanted to correct the incorrect in case others read this and think EFB cant do this or that, when in fact it can...

 

For me, EFB is awesome as I can create the entire flight plan in EFB, export it to PMDG Format right into the NGX Routes folder on my main FSX PC, load it up in the NGX and from my second PC, follow the entire route on the live map, and have EFB show me the correct charts at all times for the stage of flight I am in. This, for my amateur level is perfect.

 

I dare say PFPX is 10x better for flight plans, but I love EFB's live moving map, showing me the right charts when needed, and it takes me all of 60 seconds to create the flight plan and save it as a PMDG flight plan, all ready to go.. Keeping it simple is great for me whilst still learning the NGX...

 

Not knocking PFPX at all, as like I said, I have never seen it live working, but just wanted to be clear on what EFB DOES do to those who are saying it doesnt.

 

Anyway, I gotta go check my Facebag now and catch up with some buddies :-) ha haaaaaa

I'm not sure how you are creating flight plans in EFB. If you are clicking on vat route or route finder then you are being taken to a third party web site to create the flight plan (the EFB program is not creating your flight plan). You can go to those websites for free without the program. The point being is that EFB is not creating a flight plan itself. You can type a flight plan into it. You can type KJFK KLAX and it will draw a line between kjfk and klax, but that is not a flight plan. You can select your sids/stars in EFB, but that is just for the start and finish of your flight not everything in between. I'm not saying EFB is a bad program. Its great and I love it and I use it on my flights for the moving map and to get info on approaches etc. It will get you from point A to B when used in conjunction with those third party websites. However, if people are trying to simulate more realistic flights they would need something like pfpx with fuel planning etc.  

Nope, not doing that at all, I load up the EFB Display unit, and go to "Route setup" from the top, and just input the from/to airports, then once those are in, go to "modify" to input the SID/Approach/STAR etc and thats it, all within the program itself. It never goes to any online websites, it does it all from within the app itself, using data right from within FSX and its navigraph cycle data.

 

Already well aware I could go to those websites for free if need be, by why bother if EFB already does it for me, and uses the data from FSX and the Navigraph cycle.. more chance of things matching the flight sim...

 

Like I said already, twice now, EFB IS Creating the flight plan, it does NOT go to external websites at all. It can if you want it to, by importing flight plans from online sites, but I dont use that at all, I dont need to, it creates the flight plan itself, right within EFB. If thats not a flight plan, then I clearly have a lot more to learn, which I'm sure I will get to at some point, as I said already, I'm far from an ace NGX driver, I'm still learning the ropes, so for me, its awesome, it keeps things simple, but at NO point does it require me to reference any websites at all..

 

I dont click on VAT Route, nor route finder. I do have vRoute premium if I want to go look up routes, but rarely use it at the moment whilst learning.

Like you say though, EFB is great, and I'm sure PFPX is 10x more "realistic" which may be where the 2 differ. 1 may be more "sim friendly" and the other may be more "Realistic pilot friendly"

 

I'm sure there will be a lot missing from EFB that those seeking realism might want, thus PFPX may be the choice for them, depends what you want from your simming I suppose..

Richard...
Amateur Pilot and UK Web Hosting Guru 🙂

Nope, not doing that at all, I load up the EFB Display unit, and go to "Route setup" from the top, and just input the from/to airports, then once those are in, go to "modify" to input the SID/Approach/STAR etc and thats it, all within the program itself. It never goes to any online websites, it does it all from within the app itself, using data right from within FSX and its navigraph cycle data.

 

Already well aware I could go to those websites for free if need be, by why bother if EFB already does it for me, and uses the data from FSX and the Navigraph cycle.. more chance of things matching the flight sim...

 

Like I said already, twice now, EFB IS Creating the flight plan, it does NOT go to external websites at all. It can if you want it to, by importing flight plans from online sites, but I dont use that at all, I dont need to, it creates the flight plan itself, right within EFB. If thats not a flight plan, then I clearly have a lot more to learn, which I'm sure I will get to at some point, as I said already, I'm far from an ace NGX driver, I'm still learning the ropes, so for me, its awesome, it keeps things simple, but at NO point does it require me to reference any websites at all..

 

I dont click on VAT Route, nor route finder. I do have vRoute premium if I want to go look up routes, but rarely use it at the moment whilst learning.

Like you say though, EFB is great, and I'm sure PFPX is 10x more "realistic" which may be where the 2 differ. 1 may be more "sim friendly" and the other may be more "Realistic pilot friendly"

 

I'm sure there will be a lot missing from EFB that those seeking realism might want, thus PFPX may be the choice for them, depends what you want from your simming I suppose..

You can do that but what you are describing doesn't sound like much of a flight plan. You are merely telling efb what departure/destination you want and the sid and star you want. Its not creating a flight plan for you, just taking the info you inputted and reformattng it for export. With pfpx (or the third party sites through efb for that matter) you type in the departure and arrival airport and it creates a full ifr flight plan that includes all those waypoints between your two destinations. 

I'm not sure how you are creating flight plans in EFB. If you are clicking on vat route or route finder then you are being taken to a third party web site to create the flight plan (the EFB program is not creating your flight plan). You can go to those websites for free without the program. The point being is that EFB is not creating a flight plan itself. You can type a flight plan into it. You can type KJFK KLAX and it will draw a line between kjfk and klax, but that is not a flight plan. You can select your sids/stars in EFB, but that is just for the start and finish of your flight not everything in between. I'm not saying EFB is a bad program. Its great and I love it and I use it on my flights for the moving map and to get info on approaches etc. It will get you from point A to B when used in conjunction with those third party websites. However, if people are trying to simulate more realistic flights they would need something like pfpx with fuel planning etc.  

Your thinking of Sim brief? I use Vroute premium and cross check with Sim brief and enter it all export to EFB. 

ZORAN

 

Your thinking of Sim brief? I use Vroute premium and cross check with Sim brief and enter it all export to EFB. 

I was responding to the poster who indicated EFB is making flight plans on its own without third party applications. I don't use sim brief of vroute, but my understanding is those are decent alternatives to pfpx for flight planning. 

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