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What's the difference b/w FSX and MS Flight? And Future of FSX?

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Hello, Guys!

 

Have you played MS flight? If YES then please tell me "What's the difference b/w FSX and MS Flight?"

 

Also what do you think will Microsoft add new Aircrafts like B777, A330, A380 etc in next versions? Some people say that Microsoft will finish the FSX in future. So how much is it right?

 

Best Regards,

 

AP,

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MS Flight is a dead product.  MS has dropped it and dropped any support or products for it.

 

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Hello, Guys!

 

Have you played MS flight? If YES then please tell me "What's the difference b/w FSX and MS Flight?"

 

Also what do you think will Microsoft add new Aircrafts like B777, A330, A380 etc in next versions? Some people say that Microsoft will finish the FSX in future. So how much is it right?

 

Best Regards,

 

AP,

 

 

Where have you been?          ............ and who are these "some say" ... people?

 

MS Flight was a game released by Microsoft and terminated and the project closed less than a year later.   It's dead and buried.

 

FSX is of course also an abandoned MS product but with massive community development and because it covers the whole Earth (which MS Flight doesn't) is a true global flight simulation platform.

 

My suggestion would be;  FSX, P3D 2.0, X-Plane 2, AeroFlyFS ......all worth a look to see which one is right for you.

 

MS Flight...... forget it.

 

Microsoft have exited flight simulation so there will be no "B777, A330, A380 etc" for MS Flight, and it's almost certain that FSX will not be further developed my MS.

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Microsoft have exited flight simulation so there will be no "B777, A330, A380 etc" for MS Flight, and it's almost certain that FSX will not be further developed my MS.

 

Why they'll not add new aircraft? Can you tell me reason? Also tell me will they eliminate FSX in future?

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Soon after MS Flight was released, Microsoft decided to stop developing anything for it. What you see out there is what you will get, There are no OFFICIAL development tools either, so the community cannot add anything either.

 

Now, FSX is not being developed by MS either. You can still purchase and activate it just fine. But the development tools have always been available, therefore the community can continue to develop and support FSX.

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There are no OFFICIAL development tools either, so the community cannot add anything either.

 

At it again Jim!

True, there are no OFFICIAL tools, but there are good UN-OFFICIAL tools available for those of us who are still using it. And the strong possibility of porting some FSX aircraft and scenery before long. Just check out the MSFlight forum right here at AVSIM. Dead, no, not entirely. I will leave it at that.

 

Steve

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Ya Steve, just wait till after Christmas or early 2014 and those re-paints will just be rolling into the library. Same with all the other great freeware add-ons I'm sure.

 

Just because I don't post in the Flight forum don't think for a minute that I don't stop by from time to time to see what the few of you are coming up with.

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At it again Jim!

True, there are no OFFICIAL tools, but there are good UN-OFFICIAL tools available for those of us who are still using it. And the strong possibility of porting some FSX aircraft and scenery before long. Just check out the MSFlight forum right here at AVSIM. Dead, no, not entirely. I will leave it at that.

 

Steve

 

Well MS flight for me it's dead hence it never started period lol ;-)

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Soon after MS Flight was released, Microsoft decided to stop developing anything for it. What you see out there is what you will get, There are no OFFICIAL development tools either, so the community cannot add anything either.

 

Now, FSX is not being developed by MS either. You can still purchase and activate it just fine. But the development tools have always been available, therefore the community can continue to develop and support FSX.

 

Don't forget there's always P3Dv2  :p0816: Just kidding, No I'm not !

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MS Flight got my eye back into Flight Simming again.. I'll give it that much credit. If not for it I would have never signed up here. It was good for what it did do and that was make GA flying an easy to jump into distraction from the misery of real life without going through the motions of a whole FSX install etc.. Problem though was anyone with a desire to learn past what it offered ran into the wall of the enclosed garden it was kept in.  The rest is history. Most of us went back to FSX, a few moved to Prepar3D and a partridge and a pear tree lived happy ever after.  B)

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I too was forced back to FSX. I got the A2A J3 with accu-sim and am having fun with that. Only my second add-on for FSX. Flight ran flawlessly right out of the box, FSX did not and never will. I only run the stock set-up with the extension pack and it will do until something better comes along.

 

Yes Jim, I know that you keep an eagle eye on this forum. Thanks for checking in.

 

 

 


MS Flight got my eye back into Flight Simming again

 

Me Too!

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FSX did not and never will

 

It does here ,smooth as glass on fairly low end hardware

 

i5-2500K @ 4.6 with an Nvidia GTX570 (i.e a seriously outdated system)

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MS Flight got me started in FS. I still fly it and NOTHING.. absolutely NOTHING runs and looks as good as MS Flight does. 400 bucks later I have FSX looking decent but it still isn't MS Flight

 

The only problem with MS Flight is/was it's lack of content.

 

I was hoping P3D V2.0 would at least be it's equal in performance...but it was a major disappointment.

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MS Flight got me started in FS. I still fly it and NOTHING.. absolutely NOTHING runs and looks as good as MS Flight does. 400 bucks later I have FSX looking decent but it still isn't MS Flight

 

The only problem with MS Flight is/was it's lack of content.

 

I was hoping P3D V2.0 would at least be it's equal in performance...but it was a major disappointment.

Thank you DoubleJ, my feelings exactly. I still have hope for Aerofly FS "next addition". It has the true feel of MSFlight but not the functionality yet. At least there will be third party add-ons.

 

Steve 

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I'd say that the common thing those two is that MS abandoned both. They main difference is, of course, that MS Flight is actually a game, which is available as a free downlaod, but contains in-game purchases, and it covers only a very limited part of the world (some Hawaiian Islands as well as the rest of Hawaii and Alaska as an optional purhcase), whereas FSX is simulator, and it covers the whole world by default.

 

Now, since both are "dead" for Microsoft, chances are practically zero, that there will be "official" MS addons (MS will not add any new airplanes to either product). However, there are some very much alive developers, particularly for FSX. You need to keep in mind, though that if you want a specific addon in a specific quality, you might be limited even within FSX - some types of planes simply aren't available for whatever reason, at elast ithin a certain price and quality range.

 

Since you mention the A330: Why don't you search the library for "Thomas Ruth A330"? This guy has some really great freeware model for the A330 (amongst a few other planes).

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The "game"has better flight dynamics than the "simulator".

 

The default planes your probably right....But let me tell u...the popular payware addons.........Bang on ;)

 

Source - I'm a RW Pilot.

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Oh! Guys! Most of the guys are saying that FSX will not be finished. Even though they're also saying MS Flight has finished.

 

So tell me why Microsoft isn't supporting more about FSX? I chatted with MS help, they answered MS Flight and Simulator are same. Second I sent e-mail to MS, they didn't reply me. Third I tweet them, they said we don't know about this game`s future. So what's this? Now you guys tell me please?

 

 

 


Now, FSX is not being developed by MS either. You can still purchase and activate it just fine. But the development tools have always been available, therefore the community can continue to develop and support FSX.

 

So, if you say there are many free development tools then send me any Boeing 777's link which is working well in FSX? Remember, that should be free. I've not seen any freeware 777.

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Because ACES is gone.  The code was "sold" to LM.  FSX is over 6 years old.  It is only being kept alive because it was the final verson, and only now computers can run it decently.  Many people will slowly switch to P3D and Xplane.  FSX is still good, but I can see it dying within a few years.   Heck, many people are still using FS9 from 2004.

Flight is gone, it was a game.

Microsoft don't see the profits in computer games any more.  It costs too much, and more people now have the consoles such as Xbox ect.

The flight sim community is small compared to Call Of Duty.

 

I think you are confused what a development tool is.  It is NOT a 777 LOL, it is something like GMAX or FS Design studio ect.  FSX also came with the SDK but I am not in development so I am not going to fully answer this.

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Flight is a limited flight simulater due to lack of content.

 

Or is it that FSX is a more detailed game?

 

People can mix and match the words according to thier own preconceptions.

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Right... here goes..

Flight a game... yes, has been discontinued!

Flight Simulation X a simulator?  .... Well, it came from Microsoft's GAMING Studios!!! for ENTERTAINMENT, so, call it what you will, it still a game!! & has been discontinued!

 

Microsoft had & did sell Flight Simulation X to the public as a 'game'.

It also sold 'ESP' which was a 'pro' version. THIS is what Lockheed Martin has the license for, has developed it (versions 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 & now version 2.0) as a training tool, not for entertainment. No debates here about the word 'entertainment' as it has been debated to death. BUT you CAN buy it as a 'training' tool & still have fun with it!

 

As far as developing the programs & add-on's such as scenery, planes, etc...

This has been done by a whole lot of both freeware & payware developers, so there is no lack of anything, except for add-ons for 'Flight"

 

As far as add-ons go... look at the various sites... www.avsim.com, www.flightsim.com, www.sim-outhouse.com.

You will find a huge amount of addons.

 

X-Plane, well, another simulation that you can look at.

Aerofly? dunno about this one, but certainly not a mainstream program.

 

Comparing 'Flight' with 'P3D'...

impossible, as they are so different & targeted as different users.

 

A question to ask yourself.. 

what is the way to go?

Flight - discontinued, NO support, No add-ons.

FSX -  discontinued, NO support, plenty of add-ons both freeware & payware.

Prepar3d -  very current, Plenty support, plenty of add-ons both freeware & payware.

Also:

FS2004/FS9 - discontinued, NO support, plenty of add-ons both freeware & payware

 

X-Plane - current, supported, plenty of add-ons (I think)

 

Me? well, I still use FS9 - 2x versions & Prepar3dv1.4. I dumped FSX in favour of this.

Flight? I had as well, but dumped. I'm using an i5 laptop, Windows7 64bit with 4GB RAM.

If your computer is not up to scratch, you WILL have problems.

 

FLog wrote::

'I'd say that the common thing those two is that MS abandoned both. They main difference is, of course, that MS Flight is actually a game, which is available as a free downlaod, but contains in-game purchases, and it covers only a very limited part of the world (some Hawaiian Islands as well as the rest of Hawaii and Alaska as an optional purhcase), whereas FSX is simulator, and it covers the whole world by default. - STILL A GAME!

 

Now, since both are "dead" for Microsoft, chances are practically zero, that there will be "official" MS addons (MS will not add any new airplanes to either product). However, there are some very much alive developers, particularly for FSX. You need to keep in mind, though that if you want a specific addon in a specific quality, you might be limited even within FSX - some types of planes simply aren't available for whatever reason, at elast ithin a certain price and quality range.'- Microsoft had never added any planes or add-ons for their products! Offical or otherwise!

 

Hope this helps :-)

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I don't know why you all keep amusing the OP, but he is an obvious troll. Just look at all his posts.

Excuse me for disagreeing here, but he is seeking information. Most of us who visit these forums regularly do of course know that FSX has been dropped, and that Flight not considered a serious simulator (ignoring the fact that it's been stopped as well), but if you aren't a regular follower of the developments in the flight sim business you might as well not notice theses developments as fast as others do.

Now, if one doesn't know something, it is not a sign of weakness to ask, but it is a weakness not to ask (unless of course you have to fear that others will do nothing but call you a troll - not very encouraging, is it?)! Of course, some of the questions the OP has asked in the past may seem pretty trivial to you, but think back to the time when you got into flight simming: Did you know and understand anything immediately? Doubtfully, unless you have learned the basics of all those things during your professional carreer. If you don't think it is worth to answer, just don't do it, but please don't call others trolls, just because they ask questions you don't care to answer.

 

To AP:

1) FSX is no longer supported by MS, because it is an old piece of software - it has been released in 2006! The development team has since been dismissed, hence support in terms of fixing bugs is no long possible anyway. The only possible thing are workarounds, and this is what the community is good at: Writing code, building models etc to improve your experience, be if for free or as payware, to push this old piece of code to its limits (sometimes even beyond that, it seems).

So if you need technical documentation, MS still provides some info, if you have issues to be resolved, you need to look for some options in the community. MS will not help you here anymore, because obviously they can't. This has been made clear by what you wrote: They told you that FSX and Flight are the same, which simply is not the truth!

2) It is unlikely that MS will ever continue the Flight Simulator series, since the market seems to be rather small, but it would require quite some expenses to adapt to the newest technology. Hence this kind of entertainment software does not really look like a commercially successful way, no matter what we simmers would like to see!

3) As for the 777: There are some T7s available for free, but it's hard to tell which ones will work in FSX as they are supposed to - all I am aware of are FS9 native, which can cause some trouble, especially when the gauges rely on the default FS9 777's gauges. But you won't lose a lot if you download one of those available at simviation.com after the other and see if one of those work as you expect it.

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