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5.1 surround sound not working

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Hi Awl: I have 5.1 surround working in other games. I try it in FSX and I hear only stereo sound.

I went into the FSX sound settings and selected default driver and speaker setting( which I use) to no avail.

I also have selected 5.1 and 7.1 sound in the windows drivers and in the realtek HDaudio manager,all to no avail. I turned on speaker fill as well without success.

 

 I am connecting my onboard audio to my pioneer receiver using the analog output ports on the main board. (asus m5a88-v)

 I also have tried optical link but could not get any surround sound, only 2.0 stereo output in all games. I would prefer optical, but from what I am reading this is buggy on win7 64 bit, so I gave up on optical for now.

 In fsx when sitting in an aircraft if I rotate my view to right or rear shouldnt I hear sounds come from the side/rear speakers? I also went to external spot view, rotated around and hear nothing but standard stereo sound.

I tried the MAUL which I normally fly, and also the cessna 172 and another plane I forget which.

From what I have been reading, it is possible that some plane's do not have surround capability.

Can somebody please tell me a plane they know they get surround sound in?

Also is surround sound implemented for the player when they rotate their view inside the cockpit? or am I only supposed to hear external sounds.

 

Any other setup advice would be appreciated.

 

-Stampee

 

 

 

 

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FSX is not a 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound program. There are programs that might say they give FSX surround sound but in reality, they do not. You just have the sliders in your FSX and you can turn engine sounds up louder or softer and change the environment inside the cockpit a little. I have noticed that varying sounds as I move my cursor around in the VC but that is not surround sound.

Best regards,

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Jim:Thank you, however I cannot understand this. I have read hundreds of posts now about people saying they have surround sound in FSX. I have been researching this quite awhile now.

-Stampee

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Mine works as well but a tip from the A2A forum recommended setting the channels to 8 channel in your sound setup program. Once i did that it worked as it should. Nice to have ATC comming thru my center speaker to make it easier to hear.

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Mine works as well but a tip from the A2A forum recommended setting the channels to 8 channel in your sound setup program. Once i did that it worked as it should. Nice to have ATC comming thru my center speaker to make it easier to hear.

Can you post a link to that forum topic?

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Merry Christmas!

 

I have a 5.1 surround setup that works fine when used for music, videos, or in the Creative diagnostic UI. The only problem is that I cannot get it to work in FSX. The center channel doesn't work.

 

I've looked at the sound settings and I don't see anything to tweak. I've searched the forums and not found anything. Is there a secret fsx.cfg tweak that I need to enable for 5.1 sound?

 

What am I missing here?

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I have surround sound using all the default planes and many add-on planes.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Flight_Simulator_X

 

New Features, bullet #9.

 

OK Jim, how? I only seem to get stereo.

 

My PC is linked to my home cinema receiver via a TOSLINK from my on-board RealTek audio.

In Win7 control panel I select RealTek digital output which supports DTS Audio and Dolby Digital and if I test those I get the sound going round my 5 speakers. If I click on the advanced tab in the Realtek properties the only sample rates and bit depth listed are all 2 channel which suggests stereo only.

 

Helpful advice appreciated.

 

Dave

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Could be a lot of reasons.

 

1. Are you going from a sound card to a stereo receiver then to your speakers or sound card direct to 5.1 speakers?

2.  What equipment is it your using exactly.

 

Might get more help in the hardware forum?

 

On my Soundblaster X-FI I have the three line outs (Speaker outs) Y'd off to RCA Cables and plugged into my JVC stereo Receiver inputs then out to my speakers it works fine. On the Creative card  I have one trick is to look for a setting in the "Creative Console App" that is called "enable base re-direction" this needs to be checked in order for your Sub to work. Since the Sub and the Center channel share the same output it might be worth investigating since it's simple to accidentally reverse a Y connector.

 

There is nothing in the fsx .cfg file to tweak.

 

Lastly don't set your expectations too high even with 5.1 sound FSX isn't going to blow you away with its sonic capability.  In fact in all honesty a good set of 2.1 speakers paired with a tactile transducer and a usb headset for ATC will sound/feel better than most 5.1 systems. Of course anything sound related is subjective to the user so YMMV.

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FSX doesn't support native 5.1

 

You should've able to get stereo though and have some sound come through the rear speakers.

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When I first built my new rig I was having some issues to get it to work properly as well. I found this thread over on the A2A forum where a fellow explained the steps. http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=19673&start=0

 

It ended up in my case that I wasn't selecting enough "channels" in my Xonar control panel. I thought since I had 5 speakers I was supposed to select 5 channel output. After reading the post above and changing my output to 8 channels, it then started working properly. Now I hear ATC through the center speaker and all the other sounds coming through the correct speakers.

 

 

 

 


FSX doesn't support native 5.1

 

Perhaps its wrong since its Wikipedia and anyone can edit it, but it states that 5.1 is supported. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Flight_Simulator_X

 

It seems to be working on my rig after setting it up correctly, so I am guessing its supported since I hear different sounds coming out of each speaker and not the same sound in each one.

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I'm pretty sure it's not natively 5.1 though (five separate channels plus sub).  You'll get sounds through your rear speakers.... but if you're sure you're not hearing just a double of the sounds from the front (but less volume) that's awesome!  I've never been able to get it working.

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1. Are you going from a sound card to a stereo receiver then to your speakers or sound card direct to 5.1 speakers?

2.What equipment is it your using exactly.

 

SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer to a Logitech X-530 70 Watts 5.1 Speaker system connected directly to the SB card. No receivers or other AV equipment involved. The key thing to keep in mind, as stated, is that the 5.1 sound works perfectly outside of FSX. I can play music or movies or use other games on the system and I get 5.1 sound.

 

FSX worked for a while with a center channel and just stopped working without any explanation.

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Ok well that is a bit odd here maybe a few troubleshooting ideas may help and by no means am I trying to insult your intelligence.

 

1.  You said you had it working before and now it's not but plays 5.1 in other applications, that might lead me to double check your playback devices in the settings section of FSX and make sure both the sounds drop down value as well as the Voice drop down value are set to "Default Primary Device" or "Speakers Creative X-FI" .

 

2. I'd probably double check my speaker configs both in windows and from within your Creative App and be certain "Tone is played through all five speakers" Which shouldn't be the problem because you said they are working with other apps.

 

Did you do a recent driver change or update? Direct X? Recent add on conflict maybe?

 

The whole, "It was working before but now it's not is perplexing?"

 

Edit: Another thing you might want to try is tune an attis station on your com freq when powered up and see if it plays through your center speaker with some aircraft I don't pick up much sound through the rear or center speakers. A last ditch test is to enable "user interface music" (FSX music) which should be heard through all your speakers but one of the first check boxes I un-select after a install/ re-install. If the music plays in all channels it's probably just the aircraft your using use the "S" key to cycle your view around and see if you pick up sounds in the various channels. Example: (On my system) The Default B737 plays through all channels except the rear surrounds when in the VC. Selecting the "S" key to cycle to an external view and panning brings the rear channels to life.

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Dave

 

Are you selecting the RealTec digital output in FSX on the Sound screen?

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It's sad the MS killed hardware accelerated 3D sound. XP was the last version of Windows to support it. Now we are left with OpenAL. Maybee you have something broken in software. If I remember right there is a program that comes with that generation of soundcards to convert DirectSound 3D  to a software driver that works on creative soundcards.

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Maybe it doesn't "technically" conform to a 5.1 or 7.1 standard, but it's only a matter of definition of "surround" then, as it certainly provides distinct left and right front, and left and right rear channels for the engines.  As already noted though, not all planes will support this however.  For examp, the NGX and prior fully support it, but the T7 doesn't because they decided to only make it stereo (but people complained, and so hopefully that will change in the future). 

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You are exactly correct.  I stand corrected from my comments in post 2 above.

 

Best regards

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If your sound card can process Dolby Pro Logic II, you can give that a try.  It tries to simulate 5.1 or 7.1 from 2 or 4 channel sources.  

FSX is not 5.1.  True 5.1 Dolby Digital or DTS have discrete audio channels.  If you're getting surround sound in FSX, it is matrixed like DPL II.

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Are you selecting the RealTec digital output in FSX on the Sound screen?

 Affirm Jim.

 

The test I tried was with the PMDG J41 as detailed by an earlier poster and I could only hear the engines from the front speakers, there was no output from the rear speakers.

 

However looking at my receiver it appears that it is only getting a PCM signal, at least that's what the input display is showing.

ISTR that last time I investigated 5.1 via a TOSLINK someone said you would only get stereo because the optical bandwidth was insufficient to support 5.1 sound.

 

Dave

 

EDIT: More info.

 

Just discovered that if FSX is not running but the PC is still TOSLINK connected to the receiver i can select various inputs such as Dolby D, Theatre, etc but as soon as FSX loads the input reverts to PCM and the dispaly reads "All Ch St" (all channel stereo)

That to me suggests the RealTek audio CAN supply 5.1 sound but FSX is only delivering stereo.

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However looking at my receiver it appears that it is only getting a PCM signal, at least that's what the input display is showing.

ISTR that last time I investigated 5.1 via a TOSLINK someone said you would only get stereo because the optical bandwidth was insufficient to support 5.1 sound.

 

 

Any signal through TOSLINK is PCM (Pulse Code Modulation). 

 

Optical has no problem supporting 5.1.  It's bandwidth is only enough to support standard DD and DTS but NOT enough for Dolby True HD and DTS HD which are much higher resolution sound formats.

 

If you want sound coming from all your speakers in a simulated 5.1, please try setting your receiver sound processing to Dolby Pro Logic II like I mentioned earlier (sorry, I made a typo earlier and accidentally wrote sound card instead of receiver.

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o are you saying that some planes don't support a center channel?

 

Not supported and Not having a signal present are two different things, but in essence you could sort of say that is a true statement.  That's why I suggest you tune an attis frequency and see if it plays through your center speaker if your not using a default aircraft for testing as Jim pointed out.  (and you don't have the "Voice" option set to another playback device like a USB headset form the main FSX Sound Settings menu)

 

The default B737 plays sound through the front three speakers (including the center) while sitting in the VC.  Using the "S" key to cycle to an exterior view and then panning the exterior view from left to right should channel sound through your rear surround speakers.  You should be able to replicate this and if able then you'll know it's not your set up it's just the aircraft your using not sending any signal to your center channel.  Should take less than 2 minutes to confirm.

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