January 14, 201412 yr I am interested in PFPX but only if it creates realistic flight plans. Can someone who has it please post an auto route from VHHH-OMDB using current winds? Thank you.
January 14, 201412 yr You can paste any flight plan from the net into the pfpx flight plan box, you don't need to use the pfpx flight plan auto route I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
January 14, 201412 yr Author You can paste any flight plan from the net into the pfpx flight plan box, you don't need to use the pfpx flight plan auto route I just want to see the auto route of PFPX and whether it creates realistic routes.
January 14, 201412 yr BEKO2D BEKOL A461 SHL W22 TEPID W90 POU A599 LXI W148 XSJ W146 GULOT A599 CTG B465 CEA A791 PRA A325 PARET A454 PASOV B540 BUBIN BUBI6S VHHH/HKG (HONG KONG INTL, HONGKONG) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- VHHH 140030Z 02005KT 340V060 8000 FEW028 11/04 Q1025 NOSIG VHHH 132300Z 1400/1506 03010KT 7000 FEW035 TX16/1406Z TX16/1506Z TN10/1423Z TEMPO 1402/1409 32010KT TEMPO 1409/1415 09005KT TEMPO 1502/1506 31010KT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OMDB/DXB (DUBAI INTL, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OMDB 140000Z 21006KT 180V240 9999 SCT040 16/10 Q1020 NOSIG OMDB 131650Z 1318/1424 28010KT 9999 SCT030 BECMG 1321/1323 22005KT BECMG 1406/1408 27010KT BECMG 1418/1420 20005KT Regards,Brian Doney
January 14, 201412 yr I just want to see the auto route of PFPX and whether it creates realistic routes. I just want to see the auto route of "ACTUAL REAL LIFE AIRLINE JETSTAR AIRWAYS AUSTRALIA OR VIRGIN AUSTRALIA AIRWAYS FLIGHT PLANNING PROGRAMS* and whether it creates realistic routes *WITHOUT EMPLOYEE INTERVENTION AND RESEARCH*. The answer is: PFPX comes out pretty favourably. Anyway here's a PFPX flightplan I made a few days ago for RJBB - KSFO SHTLE Y79 BUNGU Y81 SYOYU Y809 KAGIS OTR11 LEPKI 39N160E 40N170E 41N180E 43N170W 44N160W 44N150W 42N140W 39N130W DACEM PAINT PIRAT OSI The middle portion is the PACOTS track 3 for that day. PFPX does far more than "Routing" though. I was flying a long 5 hour flight on the weekend, and the PMDG 737 was using within 0.1 metric tonne of what PFPX was suggesting. We actually ended up using 0.1 tonne less than PFPX predicted. The exact Minimum reserve + diversion fuel was calculated along with the 5% fixed and an extra 15 minutes, entered as minutes and added to the fuel (which, by carrying fuel, means your fuel burn increases). The trip length is based on the real world winds at altitude, and all the step climbs are calculated. EET times for FIR boundaries are also calculated to perfection. There's a 2 button press to send the full flight plan to the FMC's CoRoute database. Another 2 button press to send your entire flightplan including remarks, EET/ SEL/ REG/ PBN etc data to the Vatsim Prefile website... all filled out. The only thing it can't seem to do on it's own is some of the stranger off-airway routes you sometimes find in the USA like http://flightaware.com/analysis/route.rvt?origin=KEWR&destination=CYQB GREKI JUDDS CAM J222 PLB YSC ROGSA ROGSA4 Trent Hopkinson, 2015 Crewmember of www.mangrove.com.au WorldFlight sim Youtube channel www.youtube.com/user/musicalaviator
January 14, 201412 yr PFPX is a one stop and all in one flight planner for anyone who is serious about simulating airline flying. It can be a simple as pushing a few buttons or getting really complex. Was maybe the best all around purchase I made in 2013. Completely simplified my pre flight preparations. Al Stiff
January 14, 201412 yr PMDG 777-200, didn't take the time to configure everything - this is the VOR/NDB route: PECA1C.PECAN.V10.SIKOU.R339.BSE.A599.CTG.B465.CEA.A791.PRA.A325.KC.A454.PASOV.B540.BUBIN.BUBI5C VHHH-OMDB--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ALL WEIGHTS IN POUNDS (LB) STD 14JAN/0140Z--------------------------------------------------------------------------------PREPARED 14JAN/0115Z BY KEVIN CUMMINS DAL OFP TBD 741/B777-2LR GE ROUTE: VHHHOMDB01 DEP: VHHH/HKG 07L ELEV 28 FT CRZ SPD: CI 85 TTL G/C DIST: 3198 NMARR: OMDB/DXB 30L ELEV 62 FT INIT ALT: FL320 TTL F/P DIST: 3496 NM BURN ADJ: 104.0% TTL AIR DIST: 4184 NM AVG WIND CMP: HD079 KTALT: OMSJ/SHJ 12 ELEV 116 FT 21 NM--------------------------------------------------------------------------------CONFIG DOW PAX CARGO TOTAL ULOAD LIM ZFW TOW LDWSTANDARD 344244 63 29502 41892 2 LDW MAX 461000 766000 492000 PLN 386136 642551 491998 ACT ...... ...... ...... FUEL CORR ENDURTRIP 150553 ........ 08:4310 PCT 12500 ........ 00:52ALTN OMSJ 2969 ........ 00:09INTL HOLD 7821 ........ 00:30MIN T/O 173843 ........ 10:14 .....................................EXTRA 82572 ........ 05:17 CAPTAINS SIGNATURE (....)TAXI 570 ........ 00:10 RELEASE 256985 ........ 15:41 I ACCEPT THIS OFP AND I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE PLANNED ROUTE AND AERODROMES FUEL TANK CAP 320800 LB / MAX EXTRA FUEL 2 LB LIM BY LDWTRIP CORR FOR 10000 LB TOW INCR: +1626 LB / 10000 LB TOW DECR: -1971 LB2000 FT LOWER: +3533 LB / EET 08:29 CLB: 250/310/84 DES: 84/320/250 VHHH/HKG STD 01:40 ETD 01:40 ACT OFBL ..... EST T/O 01:50 ACT T/O .....OMDB/DXB STA 09:25 ETA 10:38 ACT ONBL ..... EST LDG 10:33 ACT LDG ..... TTL BLCK ..... TTL FLT ..... ATC ROUTE: N0503F320 PECA1C PECAN V10 SIKOU/K0929S0980 R339 BSE/K0912S1040 A599 LINSO/N0493F340 A599 CTG B465 CEA A791 JJS/N0487F360 A791 PRA A325 KC A454 PARET/N0486F380 A454 PASOV B540 BUBIN BUBI5C ALTERNATE PLANNING--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ALTN/RWY DIST ALT/FL COMP TIME FUEL DIFF ROUTEOMSJ/12 21 4000 TL001 00:09 2969 - SERSAOMDM/27 83 FL150 TL007 00:20 5901 +2932 MIAD4F.MIADA.M318.ATBOROMDW/30 87 FL150 TL003 00:21 6110 +3141 MIAD4F.MIADA.MIAD1ZOMRK/16 112 FL210 TL004 00:24 7315 +4346 ANVI2F.ANVIX.R401.RAV --------------------------------------------------------------------------------AWY WAYPOINT MT ALT WND/VEL TAS REM FUEL REM / USED LEG ACC NAME TMP FREQ GS DIST POSITION ETO / ATO-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- VHHH/07L 28 256.3 / 0.7 HONG KONG INTL 3496 N2219.7 E11354.9 ...../..... PECA1C DE07L 073 *CLB 4 253.7 / 3.3 03 00:03 RW07L DER 3492 N2219.4 E11356.0 ...../..... PECA1C ROVER 079 *CLB 5 252.6 / 4.4 01 00:04 3487 N2221.6 E11402.7 ...../..... PECA1C RAMEN 166 *CLB 11 250.9 / 6.1 02 00:06 3475 N2210.7 E11405.2 ...../..... PECA1C BREAM 187 *CLB 23 248.5 / 8.5 03 00:09 3452 N2147.8 E11403.5 ...../..... PECA1C TITAN 186 *CLB 6 247.9 / 9.1 01 00:10 3446 N2140.5 E11403.0 ...../..... PECA1C PECAN 186 *CLB 14 246.7 / 10.2 02 00:12 3432 N2126.3 E11402.1 ...../..... V10 ALLEY 216 *CLB 25 244.7 / 12.2 03 00:15 3407 N2105.2 E11347.2 ...../..... *TOC 253 FL320 276/095 503 6 244.3 / 12.7 01 00:16 -34 418 3401 N2103.3 E11341.4 ...../..... V10 DONKI 253 FL320 280/095 502 92 240.1 / 16.8 13 00:29 -34 417 3309 N2033.9 E11209.2 ...../..... V10 SIKOU 298 *CLB 282/095 502 41 238.3 / 18.7 06 00:35-ZGZU -35 409 3269 N2051.6 E11130.0 ...../..... R339 GIVIV 287 FL322 283/095 502 26 237.1 / 19.9 04 00:39 -35 406 3243 N2057.2 E11103.3 ...../..... R339 LH 287 FL322 285/094 501 42 235.1 / 21.9 06 00:45 HUGUANG -35 356.0 407 3201 N2108.1 E11020.0 ...../..... R339 BHY 301 FL322 291/092 500 57 232.5 / 24.5 09 00:54 NANKANG -36 117.10 407 3143 N2135.2 E10926.9 ...../..... R339 ALEKI 313 FL322 292/094 500 25 231.4 / 25.6 03 00:57 -36 412 3119 N2151.4 E10906.9 ...../..... R339 NIKUK 313 FL322 292/098 500 25 230.2 / 26.7 04 01:01 -36 410 3094 N2208.8 E10846.8 ...../..... R339 NNG 313 FL322 293/106 500 43 228.2 / 28.7 06 01:07 NANNING -37 114.50 401 3050 N2236.3 E10811.5 ...../..... R339 UVUNO 315 FL322 293/103 500 38 226.5 / 30.5 06 01:13 -37 400 3012 N2303.0 E10740.2 ...../..... R339 BSE 315 FL322 294/102 499 77 223.0 / 34.0 11 01:24 BOSE -37 115.90 401 2936 N2353.5 E10639.7 ...../..... *CLB 286 FL322 293/104 498 50 220.6 / 36.3 08 01:32 -39 395 2886 N2405.4 E10546.6 ...../..... A599 MEPAN 286 *CLB 3 220.4 / 36.6 00 01:32-ZPKM 2883 N2406.2 E10542.2 ...../..... A599 ADBAG 287 FL341 291/108 493 28 218.9 / 38.1 05 01:37 -43 385 2855 N2413.3 E10513.0 ...../..... A599 LXI 286 FL341 291/109 492 83 215.0 / 42.0 13 01:50 LUXI -43 112.30 383 2772 N2432.5 E10345.6 ...../..... A599 SGM 298 FL341 290/110 492 74 211.5 / 45.5 11 02:01 XISHAN -44 110.60 382 2698 N2505.9 E10231.2 ...../..... A599 GULOT 244 FL341 285/097 491 59 209.0 / 48.0 09 02:10 -45 416 2639 N2437.4 E10134.8 ...../..... A599 MAKUL 243 FL341 285/095 491 63 206.3 / 50.7 09 02:19 -44 418 2576 N2407.3 E10033.4 ...../..... A599 GMA 242 FL341 283/082 492 73 203.3 / 53.7 10 02:29 GENGMA -44 114.70 424 2504 N2332.7 E09924.5 ...../..... A599 LINSO 252 *DES 282/078 492 29 202.0 / 54.9 04 02:33-VYYF -43 424 2475 N2322.0 E09855.9 ...../..... A599 LSO 252 FL340 279/075 493 68 199.2 / 57.7 10 02:43 LASHIO -43 116.80 427 2406 N2259.8 E09745.3 ...../..... A599 ABMDY 265 FL340 278/075 493 99 195.1 / 61.9 14 02:57 ABM MANDALAY -43 419 2307 N2248.9 E09558.3 ...../..... A599 CHILA 264 FL340 274/061 493 181 187.7 / 69.3 26 03:23-VECF -43 433 2127 N2223.1 E09245.9 ...../..... A599 CTG 263 FL340 273/060 493 52 185.6 / 71.4 07 03:30-VGFR CHITTAGONG -43 113.40 434 2075 N2215.5 E09150.6 ...../..... B465 DAKID 278 FL340 273/061 493 25 184.6 / 72.4 03 03:33 -43 432 2050 N2219.6 E09123.8 ...../..... B465 SUMAG 279 FL340 266/065 493 137 179.2 / 77.8 19 03:52-VECF -44 428 1913 N2236.6 E08856.4 ...../..... B465 CEA 281 FL340 266/065 493 28 178.1 / 78.9 04 03:56 KOLKATA -44 112.50 429 1885 N2241.6 E08827.9 ...../..... A791 JJS 275 FL340 264/067 493 127 173.0 / 84.0 18 04:14 JAMSHEDPUR -44 115.40 426 1759 N2249.7 E08610.1 ...../..... *CLB 276 FL340 259/072 492 75 170.0 / 87.0 11 04:25 -44 423 1684 N2255.2 E08449.0 ...../..... A791 ARIVO 275 FL360 256/074 487 38 168.2 / 88.8 05 04:30 FATEHPUR -48 416 1645 N2258.3 E08408.8 ...../..... A791 IBUDA 274 FL360 254/073 487 109 163.9 / 93.1 16 04:46 -48 416 1537 N2304.0 E08210.9 ...../..... A791 ASOPO 274 FL360 250/076 487 117 159.3 / 97.7 17 05:03-VABF -48 416 1420 N2311.2 E08004.6 ...../..... A791 DABKI 273 FL360 249/078 487 76 156.3 / 100.7 11 05:14 -48 414 1344 N2314.4 E07841.3 ...../..... A791 BPL 273 FL360 248/085 487 75 153.4 / 103.6 11 05:25 BHOPAL -48 117.10 411 1269 N2317.9 E07720.2 ...../..... A791 EKIGA 288 FL360 247/079 488 77 150.4 / 106.6 11 05:36 -48 424 1192 N2341.8 E07600.9 ...../..... A791 PRA 288 FL360 248/097 488 72 147.7 / 109.3 10 05:46 PRATAPGARH -48 114.90 424 1120 N2402.2 E07445.6 ...../..... A325 INTIX 289 FL360 248/099 487 34 146.3 / 110.6 05 05:51 -49 407 1086 N2413.1 E07409.4 ...../..... A325 TASOP 289 FL360 245/112 487 193 138.7 / 118.3 29 06:20-OPKR -50 398 893 N2513.3 E07048.9 ...../..... A325 KE 288 FL360 246/107 486 59 136.3 / 120.6 09 06:29 CHOR -50 410.0 400 834 N2531.2 E06946.3 ...../..... A325 POTUP 255 FL360 246/109 487 38 134.8 / 122.2 06 06:35 -50 379 796 N2522.0 E06906.9 ...../..... A325 DOVDO 255 FL360 246/111 487 30 133.5 / 123.5 04 06:39 -50 377 766 N2515.6 E06834.8 ...../..... A325 PUNAM 255 FL360 246/109 487 53 131.3 / 125.7 09 06:48 -50 378 713 N2501.0 E06737.0 ...../..... A325 KC 254 FL360 247/110 487 25 130.3 / 126.7 04 06:52 KARACHI -50 112.10 378 688 N2455.6 E06711.6 ...../..... A454 BEGIM 219 FL360 246/110 487 15 129.7 / 127.3 02 06:54 -50 386 673 N2443.0 E06700.0 ...../..... A454 MELOM 310 FL360 246/108 487 34 128.4 / 128.6 05 06:59 -50 429 640 N2505.0 E06632.0 ...../..... A454 PUNEL 283 FL360 252/097 487 64 125.9 / 131.1 09 07:08 -50 400 575 N2520.0 E06523.0 ...../..... A454 PARET 283 FL360 253/095 487 29 124.8 / 132.2 05 07:13 -50 402 546 N2527.2 E06452.5 ...../..... *CLB 252 FL360 259/092 487 150 118.9 / 138.1 23 07:36 -49 395 396 N2441.8 E06214.2 ...../..... A454 TAPDO 250 FL380 269/093 485 52 116.5 / 140.4 08 07:44-OOMM -51 395 343 N2425.0 E06121.0 ...../..... A454 VUSET 256 FL380 272/096 485 124 111.8 / 145.2 19 08:03 -51 393 220 N2356.7 E05908.2 ...../..... A454 *TOD 288 FL380 272/096 484 107 107.6 / 149.4 16 08:19 -51 386 113 N2431.5 E05717.3 ...../..... A454 PASOV 287 *DES 26 106.9 / 150.1 07 08:26 87 N2439.7 E05651.6 ...../..... B540 KUPMA 300 *DES 25 106.8 / 150.2 04 08:30-OMAE 62 N2452.8 E05627.8 ...../..... B540 BUBIN 286 *DES 19 106.6 / 150.4 03 08:33 42 N2458.7 E05607.7 ...../..... BUBI5C OMDB/30L 291 62 42 105.9 / 151.1 10 08:43 DUBAI INTL N2514.2 E05524.7 ...../..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WIND INFORMATION - OBS ASKY--------------------------------------------------------------------------------(CLIMB) DONKI LH NIKUKFL310 281/096 -31 FL360 267/094 -44 FL362 272/091 -45 FL362 280/093 -46FL250 292/090 -19 FL340 273/096 -39 FL342 278/093 -40 FL342 287/096 -41FL190 296/050 -13 FL320 281/095 -34 FL322 286/094 -35 FL322 293/099 -37FL120 323/021 -3 FL300 288/096 -30 FL302 293/096 -31 FL302 298/102 -32 6000 356/008 +6 FL280 291/092 -26 FL282 295/092 -27 FL282 299/097 -28 BSE LXI GULOT GMAFL362 284/100 -46 FL381 285/110 -52 FL381 283/102 -53 FL381 280/083 -52FL342 290/103 -42 FL361 288/110 -48 FL361 285/099 -49 FL361 282/083 -48FL322 294/103 -37 FL341 291/110 -43 FL341 286/097 -45 FL341 284/082 -44FL302 298/103 -33 FL321 293/106 -39 FL321 287/094 -40 FL321 285/082 -39FL282 299/096 -29 FL301 295/101 -35 FL301 287/090 -36 FL301 286/082 -34 ABMDY CHILA SUMAG JJSFL380 276/078 -52 FL380 271/065 -52 FL380 262/068 -52 FL380 259/070 -52FL360 277/077 -48 FL360 273/063 -48 FL360 264/067 -48 FL360 262/069 -48FL340 279/076 -43 FL340 274/062 -43 FL340 267/066 -44 FL340 265/067 -44FL320 281/075 -38 FL320 276/059 -38 FL320 269/063 -39 FL320 266/064 -39FL300 283/074 -33 FL300 278/057 -34 FL300 271/060 -34 FL300 267/061 -34 ARIVO IBUDA ASOPO BPLFL400 253/077 -55 FL400 252/077 -55 FL400 250/080 -55 FL400 247/089 -55FL380 254/076 -53 FL380 253/076 -53 FL380 250/079 -53 FL380 247/088 -53FL360 256/074 -48 FL360 255/074 -48 FL360 251/077 -48 FL360 248/086 -48FL340 259/072 -44 FL340 257/072 -44 FL340 251/075 -44 FL340 249/084 -44FL320 259/069 -39 FL320 258/068 -39 FL320 251/071 -39 FL320 248/081 -39 PRA TASOP DOVDO MELOMFL400 247/102 -56 FL400 247/114 -55 FL400 249/113 -54 FL400 250/111 -54FL380 247/100 -53 FL380 247/113 -54 FL380 248/112 -53 FL380 249/110 -53FL360 248/098 -49 FL360 246/112 -50 FL360 247/112 -50 FL360 247/109 -50FL340 249/095 -45 FL340 245/111 -46 FL340 245/111 -47 FL340 245/107 -47FL320 248/090 -40 FL320 246/101 -42 FL320 246/102 -43 FL320 246/099 -43 TAPDO VUSET (DESCENT)FL420 268/096 -51 FL420 272/097 -52 FL370 284/097 -51 FL400 268/096 -51 FL400 272/097 -52 FL300 286/079 -41 FL380 269/094 -51 FL380 272/096 -51 FL220 290/059 -21 FL360 270/091 -50 FL360 273/094 -49 FL150 295/037 -8 FL340 272/087 -48 FL340 274/091 -47 7000 305/011 +9 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------END FLIGHTPLAN DAL 741 VHHH-OMDB 14JAN2014 This is using 120min ETOPS: ATC ROUTE: N0497F340 PECA1C PECAN V10 SIKOU/K0919S1040 R339 BSE A599 LINSO/N0488F360 A599 CTG B465 CEA A791 PRA/N0486F380 A325 KC A454 PASOV B540 BUBIN BUBI5C
January 14, 201412 yr Nothing even comes close to it. Simbrief scratches the surface, but it's not even fair to compare them in functionality. The advanced route builder is amazing, I find myself building my own routes sometimes. You won't regret it if you enjoy realistic flight planning.
January 14, 201412 yr Nothing even comes close to it. Simbrief scratches the surface, but it's not even fair to compare them in functionality. The advanced route builder is amazing, I find myself building my own routes sometimes. You won't regret it if you enjoy realistic flight planning. Im just curiouse how simbrief just scratches the surface? It calculates step climbs It calculates ETOPS It calculates PMDG wind exported in the correct format You can plan your own route of Plug in a real world route or simply select the flight plan that is loaded by default Fuel burn calcs are very accurate Issues current NOTAMS Calculates Alternates. uses Nav data Exports to Vatsim and its free ZORAN
January 14, 201412 yr It's excellent. It does all that for free and that's amazing. But PFPX is so customizable and complete that it was totally worth my $50. It's that good.
January 14, 201412 yr There are a few thing more you can do with pfpx edit your route, change your departure rwys and sids as well, on the map it shows the airport tafs all the rwy and distance of such, when flying you route it will display your aircraft on the map to your route, there are more you can do which you cant do with simbrief. I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
January 15, 201412 yr I think you guys have just about convinced me to buy....I'm looking for a flight planning solution soon. FSBuild/FSCommander/PFPX have been what I am looking at.
January 15, 201412 yr I think you guys have just about convinced me to buy....I'm looking for a flight planning solution soon. FSBuild/FSCommander/PFPX have been what I am looking at. I've never used Simbrief so I don't know what it does, but I used FSBuild before I purchased PFPX. PFPX is very heavy into ETOPS and real world planning and it does everything by the book (even as a real world pilot I gasped at the huge amount of flight planning customizations and capabilities). There is a ton of ETOPS stuff that I will probably never get into beyond the basics, as I'm not a huge ETOPS guy. You're correct that PFPX pretty much does what you can find elsewhere in some form or fashion. However, there is no other program that does it all in one program and also integrates with TOPCAT. You can customize every single aspect of each and individual aircraft, incorporate NATS, weather, select SIDs and STARs easily (based off direction), etc. To accomplish my flight planning prior to PFPX I'd have to use FSBuild, Active Sky, TOPCAT, browse the internet to find real world routes and weather charts, and a Scratchpad to write everything down and incorporate it all together. PFPX does everything all with a few button clicks. I took your position before it came out as to why it would be worth the money but I saw the efficiency of it and I was getting tired of using a bunch of different programs to do everything, so I purchased it and I'm glad I did. It's a very nice program and I don't regret purchasing it.
January 15, 201412 yr Actually if you are looking for a software that creates realistic routes I cant tell you that you may wait forever, even real life flight planning systems doesn't always give you correct routes all the time & that is why you have to check your route segment by segment everytime you create a new route, as you might be overflying tempo restricted route, may be domestic route etc... the flightplanning systems doesnt check notams or tempo restrictions etc... PFPX is a very advanced flight planning system not all users are really able to use all features. Arslan Nouar
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