I though only Cumulus X could do that. Will have to try it out. What about realistic thermals and wave?

 

I mainly do ridge soaring. Will check out the thermals today. What I liked about Cumulus X was the cumulus clouds it would put in for one to help find the thermals. I hate those artificial rings used to depict thermals in FSX/P3D, although one can use birds, but I find them hard to pick up (me old eyes!). Must try to see what ASN does under cumulus clouds.

 

Waves, I also don't know. I know if  I get over the ridge to leeward I get turbulence. Must try to get more downwind on  leeward side and see if I get a push-down / downdraft.

 

I remember getting downdrafts in FSX ASN the first time i used it, coming up to a ridge on the NW side of Table mountain with a South Easter blowing. The Cirrus Sr22 battled to make it over the ridge, and once over, it hit the updraft and climbed like crazy. Remember thinking this is going to make mountain flying realistically dangerous!

 

Rob

BTW, I have TrackIR and I've never seen "cloud spinning" either. It almost seems like the problem is a hardware dependent issue that has something to do with the shader code and what specific video card drivers do with the code.

 

 

NO... sorry, but this is completely and utterly wrong, and it has been stated by the LM developers and others who actually know how this part of the engine works, like Tim Fuchs of REX.  The clouds spin for everyone regardless of hardware, software, or anything else.. it IS the way they are coded...

 

Now, if the way you, or anyone else uses the sim, means it has less, little or no impact then great :smile:  ... but for me, and a great many others it is a major spoiler, ruining immersion and the visual integrity of the flying experience, esp. when using weather engine like ASN which uses certain techniques to depict layers [which makes it relevant to the topic]... I don't use wide-open zoom levels, or wide aspect either.

 

Anyway, I am done with this subject here... I'm bored of the topic myself ^_^

I just installed ASN (P3Dv2.1) Beta yesterday ... looks real good and accurate ... good Wx and reports.

 

No TrackIr (using EZdok in VC cockpit).

 

No spinning clouds noticed.

I have installed ASN Open Beta on yesterday, too. It looks very nice indeed.

 

Patric

One simple question:

 

I don't fly much with real time real world weather. Can I set the weather to a certain scenario and fly it (imporved by ASN) or do I have to fly the real world weather?

People who don't see spinning clouds don't know where to look for. ^_^ As Novation said, everyone has them in P3D v2. But it's only obvious and apparent in certain situations. It has absolutely nothing to do with zoom or hardware. 

 

If you want to see it try this: fly low over mountains that are covered in clouds. You will see that where the clouds hits the ground, it looks like the bottom of that cloud has been cut off with a knife (not very realistic btw, but well…). Keep an eye on that 'line' and now slowly move your view left and right. You will see that line will move along with your view: it will stay at the same angle, parallel to your view.

 

This may help knowing where to look at:

 

 

In P3D v2 you ALWAYS look straight at the cloud sprite.

Don't understand - "can't get a key". Are you getting an error message? Post on the HiFi support forum and they should get you squared away.

 

There is a big difference between ASN and AS2012 especially in the way that it handles clouds. ASN knows where each cloud is positioned which makes the weather radar extremely effective. If you see a weather front ahead with a lane through it, you can fly in the lane with clouds on either side, etc.

 

Get the demo key squared away and give it a try - remember though, if you are used to AS2012 - cut back on the cloud layers for best results. ASN produces deeper layers and you don't need 8 - 10 layers to get results - plus much less of a performance hit.

 

Vic

Oh, its entirely my fault. I wasn't paying attention and tried to install the original ASN demo (made for FSX) on my P3D install (probably back when we were on v1.4). Since you get one demo license, I accidentally burned it (on a platform that wouldn't run it anyway).

 

 

People who don't see spinning clouds don't know where to look for.

 

It's not quite that simple. There are display settings that cause the issue to become more obvious, such as  either ticking on WideView or using a large FOV. Since I don't do either of those things, the spinning clouds are so inobvious as to not be an issue. To me, this "bug" falls into the same category of being able to elicit peripheral  autogen popping by rapidly panning with TrackIR. repeatedly from 8 o'clock to 4 o'clock. 

 

A good number of people have complained about this issue to LM, but they don't seem to be in any hurry to fix it. That leads me to believe that it is a byproduct of the detailed cloud animation

 

...the visual integrity of the flying experience...

 

 

That is a GREAT phrase and if you don't mind, I'm going to borrow it the next time somebody gets snarky about "eye candy."  As though flightsim was only about systems and wireframes.  Many thanks!

 

Apologies for the thread hijack - just felt I had to single that out for praise.

I just flew around KSFO .. lots of clouds ... mountains ...

Moving my view with the Yoke HAT switch or using the mouse (center button - EZdok) no clouds spinning.

 

All looks ok.

 

 

Edit:

Maybe someone could do a video of the problem.

I just flew around KSFO .. lots of clouds ... mountains ...

Moving my view with the Yoke HAT switch or using the mouse (center button - EZdok) no clouds spinning.

 

All looks ok.

 

 

Edit:

Maybe someone could do a video of the problem.

I'll make a short clip of it. Give me a few minutes...

One simple question:

 

I don't fly much with real time real world weather. Can I set the weather to a certain scenario and fly it (imporved by ASN) or do I have to fly the real world weather?

You have two options - Manual and historical. In historical, you select the date and time and ASN will use the weather on that date. IIRC you can go back about 3 years. Go back to Hurricane Sandy and fly, erm TRY to fly around the east coast of the US! Exciting stuff.

 

You can also set your weather manually.

 

Vic

To me, this "bug" falls into the same category of being able to elicit peripheral autogen popping by rapidly panning with TrackIR. repeatedly from 8 o'clock to 4 o'clock

Agreed. LIke flying at 500ft agl at 600kts and getting blurries.

 

ASN has attempted to reduce the spinning effect BUT as has been said - it is an FSX and P3D issue that is inherent in THEIR code. Some will notice it and some will not. At some point, hopefully, LM might take a look at it but I would not expect it to be very high on their list.

 

Vic

Oh, its entirely my fault. I wasn't paying attention and tried to install the original ASN demo (made for FSX) on my P3D install (probably back when we were on v1.4). Since you get one demo license, I accidentally burned it (on a platform that wouldn't run it anyway).

Open a support ticket, explain the situation and I feel pretty sure they'll reset the license.

 

Vic

You have two options - Manual and historical. In historical, you select the date and time and ASN will use the weather on that date. IIRC you can go back about 3 years. Go back to Hurricane Sandy and fly, erm TRY to fly around the east coast of the US! Exciting stuff.

 

You can also set your weather manually.

 

Vic ...

 

Thanks, Vic, for clarification!

Here is a quick clip of the "rotating cloud" effect (but please see notes below).

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hN1vtuax84&feature=youtu.be

 

Setup:

Prepar3d v2.1 (with hotfix patch installed)
Weather: stock P3D theme "Building Storms"
Aircraft: F-22
TrackIR 5.x
Location: Chicago

 

I was not using ASN as I am still working to install it. So, take this video for what its worth. That said, I think this represents the underlying "spinning cloud" effect.

Here is a quick clip of the "rotating cloud" effect (but please see notes below).

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hN1vtuax84&feature=youtu.be

 

Setup:

Prepar3d v2.1 (with hotfix patch installed)

Weather: stock P3D theme "Building Storms"

Aircraft: F-22

TrackIR 5.x

Location: Chicago

 

I was not using ASN as I am still working to install it. So, take this video for what its worth. That said, I think this represents the underlying "spinning cloud" effect.

 

Great, thanks for this video!

 

I have never noticed this before, but no that I am aware of this ... :unsure: