RW, the Cherokee likes to float more if you're high on speed over the runway

 

True for the taper wing...

 

Don't expect that with the old hershey bar wing.

I have trained in real 172 but PC sim is just for hobby so to me it doesn't matter - Oh flew co-pilot in a lear jet but don't tell anyone

And let me ask you Richard do you meet the requirements of the P3D V2 Academic license? I.e. are you an undergraduate student?

Based on your avatar you certainly could be:-) Then again since you have been a member of a flight sim community over 3 and half years I wonder.

It also says kindergarten to grade 12. If you have kids, you "qualify" anyway.

 

Also, it says at undergrad level....doesn't say anything about actually being enrolled as as a student at any educational establishment, nor do LM require any info or proof.

 

You really are shooting yourself in the foot with this nonsense. I'm sure LM will happily take your money but as the developers themselves have said, it's like banging your head against a brick wall.

 

Yes, I'm 38, been out of school for many years. I have 3 small children who enjoy flying with dad. I have the academic license and I'm quite happy to say I do!

Once again....

 

It does not state anything about being enrolled in any institution. You have made that up. Look at the table.

 

Also......k-12. I'm sure many folks on here have children in school.

 

LM don't care! What is it you don't get??

 

Nothing is going to come and bite anyone in the &@($*. If LM aren't bothered why are you? Even the developers were on about how stupid this all was. I have refrained from these discussions because of the ###### that goes on. I shall go back to not getting involved. Good luck destroying the hobby. You are heading the right way with this legal crap.

 

It's ambiguous for one reason only......to avoid Microsoft. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

Th pro version is designed for use by institutions that use it in a commercial money making situation such as flight schools etc.

 

If you feel better for paying $199... Go for it.

Here is the basic criteria for the two main C172 P3D2 versions, as defined by A2A:

C172 Trainer (P3D) Academic LICENSE:
This Academic version is a discounted package specifically for students and educators, in an effort to help bring fresh talent into the aviation community.

C172 Trainer (P3D) Professinal LICENSE:
The P3D product is for personal use by pilots, aviation professionals, and those with a professional interest in aviation.

 

Just pick the one that fits you the best and don't concern yourself with the choices of others.

 

 

What exactly did you mail? "I just purchased the C172 Pro license for P3D and would like to relinquish my FSX license"...? Plus both serials? That's it?

 

Sorry to be coming back to the thread late - was out for a few hours (Saturday night here in East Coast North America...)

 

Yes, that's basically it.  Here's a link to the page with instructions on how to apply.  Note the dedicated email address: c172rebate (at) a2asimulations (dot) com

 

 

The A2A link above states to make sure you uninstall your current version from FSX before exercising the rebate.

 

Thanks for mentioning that - I totally overlooked the instruction (was too busy tracking down order numbers).  Have now uninstalled. 

Installed the Pro version in P3DV2.2 tonight, sent email for rebate.  Did a few short hops and the aircraft is very very accurate to the real C-172R ... from shake at landing to flap deployment, aircraft reacts well. Looking forward to the Cherokee.

 

Will post some video tomorrow if I have time.

 

Cheers, Rob.

Like most people I bought the academic version of P3D simply because it was the cheaper option.

If the professional version were the only option I would probably still have been on FSX.

The academic version makes P3D more accessible to those who do not have a large disposable income, whether they be students or simply enthusiasts with less cash at hand.

 

My point is not to debate licencing, but to ask that some of those who chose to pay for the pro-version drop the self righteous and condescending attitude toward others.

 

Thank you.

GHarrall wrote:

 

LM don't care! What is it you don't get??

 

Nothing is going to come and bite anyone in the &@($*. If LM aren't bothered why are you? Even the developers were on about how stupid this all was.

 

It's ambiguous for one reason only......to avoid Microsoft. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

I really don't get all the moaning by wannabe or even, maybe, real lawyers on certain forums. Certainly, you can dream of uncle Bill returning to MS and restarting FS11. You can dream of X-Plane, Outerra, aeroflyFS (yes, I do know them) taking over. You can dream of maker "Superflight" taking a new simulator out of a hat. Let's face it: There will be no competitor/replacement for Prepar3d in the foreseeable future.

 

In my opinion, given the real-world constraints, Lockheed-Martin has acted in a very, very clever way. First, of course, in the interest of their own company. But second we can be thankful they kept an eye on us serious simmers and even being responsive to our wishes. That's all we can get today, and we should be contend we got it. All beyond is wishful thinking. The alternative is to quit simulation. If you want this, just do it.

 

(And, btw., I got the Pro version. 1st as I don't qualify for Academic, 2nd as I want to support development.)

 

Kind regards, Michael

Just installed the P3D Pro license. Funny thing was that while the installer said something like 'P3D Native' the dat file is still called FSXAccusim.dat and the files for the C172 are still stored in a folder called FSX... Makes you wonder what's 'P3D native' about this version...?

Just installed the P3D Pro license. Funny thing was that while the installer said something like 'P3D Native' the dat file is still called FSXAccusim.dat and the files for the C172 are still stored in a folder called FSX... Makes you wonder what's 'P3D native' about this version...?

Not good at all. When I saw "Native P3D Aircraft" in the product page, I expected at least the aircraft to be recompiled in the Prepar3D SDK, and maybe take advantage of some of the new features. This further enhances the fact that the new licencing scheme is extremely superficial and the product has no difference across all licences.

 

Would there be any difference in buying the FSX version and then also installing it in Prepar3D 2.2 with the installer workaround, except for prohibiting the EULA (by A2A)?

I asked on the A2A forum what exactly is native in this version. I'll keep you posted.

 

The new FSX 2.0 core can't be installed into P3D so buying that version for P3D would be a total waste of money.

 

BTW The new Direct Taxi is a huge improvement. Taxiing is a joy now. I never liked how the plane drove before with my Saitek rudder pedals but now it is spot on.

I asked on the A2A forum what exactly is native in this version. I'll keep you posted.

 

The new FSX 2.0 core can't be installed into P3D so buying that version for P3D would be a total waste of money.

 

BTW The new Direct Taxi is a huge improvement. Taxiing is a joy now. I never liked how the plane drove before with my Saitek rudder pedals but now it is spot on.

Saw the thread, I'll keep any eye on it.

 

As for Direct Taxi, from what I understand, it helps you centre the aircraft on the taxiway? Is this realistic and can it be turned off?

As for Direct Taxi, from what I understand, it helps you centre the aircraft on the taxiway? Is this realistic and can it be turned off?

 

It doesn't help you to centre the aircraft (as if it is some unrealistic aid that automatically keeps you in the middle of the taxiway): it simply removes the apparently unrealistic tendency the A2A C172 had in previous versions to keep on turning after you centered the rudders or let go of the toe brakes. In the previous versions I almost always had to 'counter steer' (quite hard too) after every turn in order to taxi straight on (also making parking into tight spots a bit hard), but now the plane simply drives straight when you let go of the pedals/toe brakes. In short: taxiing is a LOT more direct and easier to do. And I suppose it's also more realistic now.

I just ended a flight and parking into a small spot between two other planes was a breeze. In the past I usually ended up being parked in an angle and not straight but not anymore.

 

It's not something you can turn off but you wouldn't want that.