May 25, 201412 yr It doesn't help you to centre the aircraft (as if it is some unrealistic aid that automatically keeps you in the middle of the taxiway): it simply removes the apparently unrealistic tendency the A2A C172 had in previous versions to keep on turning after you centered the rudders or let go of the toe brakes. In the previous versions I almost always had to 'counter steer' (quite hard too) after every turn in order to taxi straight on (also making parking into tight spots a bit hard), but now the plane simply drives straight when you let go of the pedals/toe brakes. In short: taxiing is a LOT more direct and easier to do. And I suppose it's also more realistic now. I just ended a flight and parking into a small spot between two other planes was a breeze. In the past I usually ended up being parked in an angle and not straight but not anymore. It's not something you can turn off but you wouldn't want that. Thanks for the info, I just thought it was some kind of aid like the Flight Assistant in Microsoft Flight. This definitely sounds like a great addition.
May 25, 201412 yr This definitely sounds like a great addition. Well, actually, it sounds more like a bug fix to me. ^_^ Or a nessecary improvement of the systems. Apparently it was wrong how it was before and it's been fixed. EDIT Just received a mail about my rebate (they're even working on a Sunday!) after mailing A2A this morning that I wanted to relinquish my FSX license: the mail only said 'refunded, A2A support' and PayPal told me the full professional price of $ 79,99 was refunded...! Whatever bad I said about A2A, I take it back... :rolleyes: ^_^
May 25, 201412 yr Well, actually, it sounds more like a bug fix to me. ^_^ Or a nessecary improvement of the systems. Apparently it was wrong how it was before and it's been fixed. EDIT Just received a mail about my rebate (they're even working on a Sunday!) after mailing A2A this morning that I wanted to relinquish my FSX license: the mail only said 'refunded, A2A support' and PayPal told me the full professional price of $ 79,99 was refunded...! Whatever bad I said about A2A, I take it back... :rolleyes: ^_^ But Alan_A said he got refunded $50. Maybe they refunded the full price to make you shut up?
May 25, 201412 yr They didn't refund the full amount, he needs to pay closer attention, only part of it is refunded and that partial amount is at the very beginning of the refund email from Paypal, I know I thought the same thing until I read more closely. Cheers, Andy.
May 25, 201412 yr Remember the updated 172 now simulates engine flooding, so before you wonder why your engine won't start, remember it is a little Lyc IO-360, not a big thirsty radial...heck even the P-51's big merlin only needs about 4 seconds of primer on a normal day. So go easy on the fuel pump before you start. One thing I really love accusim for is realistic engine starting....not just automatically firing up. You really have to think about what you are doing, take into temp/pressure and so on. Cheers TJ "The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." - Douglas Adams Tejon 'TJ' Stanley
May 25, 201412 yr They didn't refund the full amount, he needs to pay closer attention, only part of it is refunded and that partial amount is at the very beginning of the refund email from Paypal, I know I thought the same thing until I read more closely. Well, my mail says this: "A2A Simulations Inc. just sent you a full refund of $79,99 USD for your purchase." Furthermore, when I checked my account on the A2A site, I still see the FSX license and I see the P3D license being noted as 'refunded'. When you check your A2A account, do you still see the FSX license or only the P3D license? And does that P3D entry say something about a refund? Or do you only see the P3D purchase and nothing more? In the meantime I mailed A2A to check if something went wrong somewhere...
May 25, 201412 yr Just because Accu-sim's files are still named "FSX" does not mean the product isn't P3D 2.0 native. It just means they kept the code as similar as possible to keep headaches with updates and such to a minimum. Sheesh, you just can't please some people.
May 25, 201412 yr Looks like they messed something up in your case Jeroen, my FSX order from back in January looks unchanged and my bundle order is showing a partial refund only. I do love the way the new version flies now, its much more refined and realistic in my opinion, the immediate pitch movement on power change does really make a big difference, it also makes it easier to trim. Even the way the plane reacts to a slight slip on landing is a big improvement, stunning!! Cheers, Andy.
May 25, 201412 yr Just because Accu-sim's files are still named "FSX" does not mean the product isn't P3D 2.0 native. It just means they kept the code as similar as possible to keep headaches with updates and such to a minimum. Sheesh, you just can't please some people. Are you implying that the Prepar3D version is in some way different?
May 25, 201412 yr Here is the basic criteria for the two main C172 P3D2 versions, as defined by A2A: The A2A's website also shows other differences but i'm reluctant to publish them in this forum. Gerry Howard
May 25, 201412 yr Well, my mail says this: "A2A Simulations Inc. just sent you a full refund of $79,99 USD for your purchase." Furthermore, when I checked my account on the A2A site, I still see the FSX license and I see the P3D license being noted as 'refunded'. When you check your A2A account, do you still see the FSX license or only the P3D license? And does that P3D entry say something about a refund? Or do you only see the P3D purchase and nothing more? In the meantime I mailed A2A to check if something went wrong somewhere... Sounds like they refunded the wrong licence.
May 25, 201412 yr It looks to me like option 2 isn't as simple as moving to p3d and getting rid of your fsx license since it stipulates the c172 must not have been used for 3 or more hours in fsx. So unless I'm reading it wrong, option 2 only applied to those who barely used the aircraft in fsx... I imagine most people here would only qualify for option 1... Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
May 25, 201412 yr It looks to me like option 2 isn't as simple as moving to p3d and getting rid of your fsx license since it stipulates the c172 must not have been used for 3 or more hours in fsx. So unless I'm reading it wrong, option 2 only applied to those who barely used the aircraft in fsx... I imagine most people here would only qualify for option 1... Kind of a useless rule, I don't think they will even check for that.
May 25, 201412 yr Kind of a useless rule, I don't think they will even check for that. I may be wrong about this (it's all a bit confusing) but I think the way it works is that if you swap licenses but keep a dual install, that'll be detected and the aircraft will lock up if you use it for more than three hours in the unlicensed sim. So it applies going forward. As to past use, it seems like more of an honor system. Not sure but that's how I read it. Just because Accu-sim's files are still named "FSX" does not mean the product isn't P3D 2.0 native. It just means they kept the code as similar as possible to keep headaches with updates and such to a minimum. The other benefit of this is that for users who buy a dual license, all the Accu-sim wear-and-tear information that's kept in the .dat file will be common across both platforms. So you can swap between FSX and P3D and effectively be flying the same aircraft with the same maintenance history. That said, the arrangement caused me a couple of headaches. I wasn't able to uninstall my FSX 172 using add/remove programs - the result, I think, of my having installed it earlier in P3D via the migration tool, which confused poor Windows and made it unable to distinguish between the two installs. So I removed it "by hand." When I found the .dat files in the A2A FSX folder in My Documents, I deleted them - before realizing that there wasn't an A2A P3D My Documents folder and I'd just wiped out the maintenance history for the legit P3D install. Not a big deal for me since I was planning to re-randomize the maintenance anyway. But after all the intensity about buying the right license, I wasn't expecting to find critical P3D logs filed under FSX. I suppose this is one of those situations where developers like A2A are learning as they go, and sometimes they're finding where the walls are by walking into them. You can't anticipate everything. I'm inclined to cut them some slack. But maybe that's just me... B) Alan Ampolsk"Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!"-- Saint-Exupery
May 25, 201412 yr As to past use, it seems like more of an honor system. Not sure but that's how I read it. I think you are correct. I bought the C172 long before P3D v2 had been released and had no problem at ALL to relinquish my FSX C172 license. Concerning the refund: I received a mail from A2A in which they said they had made an error indeed. The idea is that when you buy any P3D license and want to relinquish your FSX license, you will get the full cost of that FSX license (50 bucks) refunded. A2A solved the problem with my refund in a very satisfying way. Don't know if they want me to post the details but let me end my contribution to this topic by saying that I will buy the upcoming Piper as soon as it's been released. ^_^
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