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This tip comes from an experience with bunch of free and payware purchased add ons for FSX. When I want to get rid of some add-on planes, mostly tested freeware planes, I usually go to FSX root and try to find uninstall executable for it, or find it under start menu. But in few occasions after uninstalling I found that some of effect or texture files are missing. I remember that even after uninstalling one payware plane some crucial FSX files were missing.

 

Conclusion? In the last few months I always, and I mean ALWAYS remove add ons and planes by deleting the folder in simobjects, and developer folder in FSX root. You can also remove a subfolder folder in sounds folder. That way I'm sure my FSX install will stay untouched. Effects and some additional texture files left by that add-on are not a threat, FSX will not use them.

 

A little tip, remainder, or a warning if you like.

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Far easier to make a  copy the whole FSx folder on another drive when its a fresh install, than the files are always avliable when you need them.

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Far easier to make a  copy the whole FSx folder on another drive when its a fresh install, than the files are always avliable when you need them.

 

Good tip, yes, but still you must find a missing file by yourself, or if you have Total Commander just compare folders. ;)

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I remember that even after uninstalling one payware plane some crucial FSX files were missing.

What addon was that?

 

regards,

Joe

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What addon was that?

 

regards,

Joe

 

It was a year ago or so, really can't recall for sure. I know only it wasn't a top quality addon, of course. :)

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And that's why I install any plane with an autoinstaller to a temporary folder before putting it into FSX.

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Hear, Hear!! I always install into a temp folder. I really dont like installers doing their own thing. This way, I can see where the readme's are as well. Normally, after I have copied from the temp folder into the sim, I then run the uninstall program, if any, in the temp folder. If I dont like the new aircraft, I just delete it from the sim. I'm not too concerned if the guages or any other related files for the aircraft are left behind. They are normally so small in size & do no harm if left behind.

 

Just my thoughts & the way I do things. (FS9, (2x versions), FSX & P3D)

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Installing in a temp folder is a very good idea.

But if you don't want to do it, just backup your "modules" folder before installation, becouse a lot of installers will overwrite your FSUIPC and replace it with some older version, and after that FSX will CTD on start-up :) Then, after you uninstall something, if your effects are missing, just use this very nice tool: http://www.rikoooo.com/en/downloads/viewdownload/8/256

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So you never fly PMDG planes?

 

Is their installer of the "You can't change anything!" kind?

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Is their installer of the "You can't change anything!" kind?

 

No  you  got 3 options  to choose from once to run the  installer again   modify, repair or  remove options

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No  you  got 3 options  to choose from once to run the  installer again   modify, repair or  remove options

 

But can you change the path when first installing it?

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But can you change the path when first installing it?

 

If you install complex payware aircraft into temporary folder and then move them to FSX the chances are they will not work. 

 

Really only times when I install anything on temp folder are with some FS2004 stuff that I'm testing on FSX & freeware. Usually there's no reason whatsoever to install FSX payware on temporary folder and in some cases it might cause problems. 

 

And of course most of FSX freeware installers shouldn't cause any trouble either unless there's something wrong with them. 

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If you install complex payware aircraft into temporary folder and then move them to FSX the chances are they will not work. 

 

Really only times when I install anything on temp folder are with some FS2004 stuff that I'm testing on FSX & freeware. Usually there's no reason whatsoever to install FSX payware on temporary folder and in some cases it might cause problems. 

 

And of course most of FSX freeware installers shouldn't cause any trouble either unless there's something wrong with them. 

 

There's no such thing as a "manually uninstallable, complex payware aircraft". It's just a bunch of folders, files and the odd custom .dll and exe.xml and/or dll.xml entries or custom configuration files or whatnot. As long as any referenced paths point to the right target (by manual intervention), everything is fine and dandy.

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Maybe so, still I don't see why anybody would waste their time on that with every single thing they install... Only thing that has ever caused me problems when doing automatic install was some freeware AI traffic program designed for FS9, apparently it included some custom effects that didn't work very well with FSX and replaced its default effects. 

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But can you change the path when first installing it?

 

Why would  you change  the path  for since it searches for where your fsx is installed

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Why would  you change  the path  for since it searches for where your fsx is installed

 

Most of them do that, but still...can you install it to a temporary folder or are you completely at the hands of the makers of the installer?

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Ok now you lost me  now  so what you saying is when you run the installer you want to install it  to a temporary folder?

 

Or  are you saying  can you  save the installer to a temporary folder   which you can  or any other folder you like. 

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Now you got me wondering on what you are trying to achieve here, am I missing  some thing,  You cant install the pmdg Aircraft to a temp  folder as you describe

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So you never fly PMDG planes?

Maybe surprising to you, but there are many people who don't fly pmdg aircraft.

 

Not everyone dreams of being a button pusher at 35,000 feet

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Maybe surprising to you, but there are many people who don't fly pmdg aircraft.

 

Not everyone dreams of being a button pusher at 35,000 feet

 

+1. You don't "fly" a PMDG anything. You just sort of go along for the ride. No fun in that (IMNSHO).

 

Doug

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You cant install the pmdg Aircraft to a temp  folder as you describe

 

Bad policy. To me, at least.

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No need to install in a temp folder, really.You need a simple BACKUP folder with default textures and effects, that's all. When you want to remove airplane, just delete it from simobjects. I also delete developer folder in the FSX root. You can also delete start menu folder and shortcuts left behind. Only problem are leftovers in the registry, and you can clean that too with certain software. I didn''t have positive experience with registry cleaning applications so I would leave it alone. It's most important to leave FSX install cleanest as possible and valid. Reinstalling FSX and all addons and custom files, textures, etc, is such a big headache for me, every time can last for days. Better few undeleted registry entries, than few days of FSX reinstall agony.

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Bad policy. To me, at least.

 

Think you getting confused or is it me getting  confused here, I say once  again you can place the pmdg exe  in any location you like being a temp folder or  disc or anywhere you desire. But  once you run the installer it searches  on where your fsx is installed and it installs it.  Or am I wrong  here :o

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