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PMDG 777 Prepare3d with FSX license

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Hello, the 777 P3d is on the website of PMDG. So I think an release is not to far away. What is about the FSX PMDG 777 owners, will they get the P3d version for free or for a lower price ? 

 

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No we will all have to buy again. I think even the licence you have might come at different prices.

But even so I will buy on release.

 

The 777 is the pinnacle of the flight sim aircraft available to us, followed by the ngx. imo ofc.

 

I will wait till it's in the sale because $350,000,000.00 is just over my budget.

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Price $350,000,000.00? ???? :blink:

Edited by Daveo
Inappropriate language.

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What is about the FSX PMDG 777 owners, will they get the P3d version for free or for a lower price ? 

 

It won't be free.

 

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Price $350,000,000.00? #####???? :blink:

 

They do that to ensure nobody buys it while the store is prepared (har har) for product delivery when it's ready.

 

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Well they got it wrong ... the 777-200LR is only $290,000,000  (US) and the 777-300ER is $320,000,000 US ... so buy the 300ER and you save $20,000,000.  

 

Also, factor in the savings from operational costs.  So this is a real bargain!

 

Cheers, Rob.

 

EDIT: my credit card got decline, darn

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Please leave the policing to the mods

 

You're so helpful.  Thanks for your addition to this thread...

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I still fail to see why people expect it to be a free upgrade? Honestly, enlighten me.

 

Let's just recap this little part. In contrary to what a lot of people think, you did not buy the software itself. You payed for a license to use the software within the bounds of the EULA. One of those bounds is the fact that you're only allowed to run it within FSX. This was clearly stated on the product page when you bought the software, no promise or even hint to a free expansion to P3D was mentioned.

 

With that in mind... Enlighten me.

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Well they got it wrong ... the 777-200LR is only $290,000,000  (US) and the 777-300ER is $320,000,000 US ... so buy the 300ER and you save $20,000,000.  

 

Also, factor in the savings from operational costs.  So this is a real bargain!

 

Cheers, Rob.

 

EDIT: my credit card got decline, darn

Who knows - if someone does go for it at $350m (hell, give 'em a discount!), perhaps the rest of us can get it for free?

Please leave the policing to the mods

 

Yes 'Graham', and the policy says 'You MUST SIGN YOUR FULL REAL NAME to posts to use this forum'.

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perhaps the rest of can get it for free?

 

My guess is that if someone forks over $350 mil. you've seen the last PMDG aircraft. The captain and his crew will be leaving for a tropical island!

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My guess is that if someone forks over $350 mil. you've seen the last PMDG aircraft. The captain and his crew will be leaving for a tropical island!

 

Good point, well made!  Probably what I'd do!

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You're so helpful.  Thanks for your addition to this thread...

 

Where is the PFPX Profile Kyle, you know the J41

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I forget. What's the normal time frame from when they put it on the PMDG website with the ridiculous price until it goes on sale for real? Would have preferred the NGX first, but this will suffice.

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The -300ER went up on the website for $350MM months before release. This is not an indication that release is soon. Sorry guys.

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Please leave the policing to the mods

 

 

The things that should be said to you. I can't imagine what being around you IRL must be like. I'll leave it there. 

 

 

You're so helpful.  Thanks for your addition to this thread...

 

Things catch up very quickly to those types of people. Thanks for everything Kyle. 

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I still fail to see why people expect it to be a free upgrade? Honestly, enlighten me.

 

Let's just recap this little part. In contrary to what a lot of people think, you did not buy the software itself. You payed for a license to use the software within the bounds of the EULA. One of those bounds is the fact that you're only allowed to run it within FSX. This was clearly stated on the product page when you bought the software, no promise or even hint to a free expansion to P3D was mentioned.

 

With that in mind... Enlighten me.

 

It's simple really. People expect it to be a free upgrade because that is the experience they probably had with a lot of other companies. Majestic did a free "upgrade", ORBX also, Aerosoft, Active Sky, and a lot others. The argument of respecting the EULA is valid, no doubt about it, but I don't think all these companies are doing something illegal or something that goes against their licenses and permissions. In the end of the day, offering a free upgrade or not is a decision the company must make. PMDG could offer it, but they chose not to, like A2A chose not to, and that is perfectly ok, they are the only ones that must decide how to run their business. If you don't agree, well it's simple really, don't buy it. There are other fantastic planes out there ;)

 

Cheers!

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ORBX also, [...] Active Sky,

 

ORBX can do this without much risk, depending on their data source.  In the United States, a lot of government data is in the public domain, so you're free to use it for profit.

 

As for Active Sky, it's safe to say that you don't need a license from Mother Nature to come up with models to model and predict her behaviour, so there isn't much of an issue there, either.

 

...and this is the crux of the issue: too many people don't see the challenges and unique aspects of everything going on here. Developers are allowed to make money off of their developments that simulate real airplanes because the real entity allows it.  Ever wonder why there aren't any payware Gulfstreams in FSX or P3D? Gulfstream doesn't allow it. They rather aggressively don't allow it, actually.  Same goes for the difference between FSX and P3D. If a company wants to treat a commercial license and an entertainment license as the same, then so be it.  deHavilland might do just that. I know for a fact that Boeing does not, however, and for this reason, you'd be putting your company at risk by offering your product on a commercial platform on an entertainment license. This is often the reason you're met with different prices and entirely separate licenses between the platforms.

 

 

 


but I don't think all these companies are doing something illegal or something that goes against their licenses and permissions.

 

Depends on the company and their agreement.  Some of the real world entities are catching on to what's going on in the sim world with their data, and the results may not be very pretty.

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Please leave the policing to the mods

 

What you say is correct, but since you have posted in the pmdg general forum, maybe you need to read the rules  that require you to sign your full name.

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The things that should be said to you. I can't imagine what being around you IRL must be like. I'll leave it there. 

 

 

 

Things catch up very quickly to those types of people. Thanks for everything Kyle. 

 

Why are you thanking Kyle for everything in this thread? Why are you so upset that he has been offended and why do you feel the need to chime in when I wasn't talking to you?

 

What do you mean by 'Things catch up very quickly to those types of people'? Are you threatening me?

 

One of the main reasons I only read these forums and not participate is because of this 'sheep' culture. Frankly it is so obvious and so pathetic and it makes me generally a 'read only' member

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Frankly it is so obvious and so pathetic and it makes me generally a 'read only' member

 

So what your saying  is  disregard  the rules set by pmdg than, which are clearly  stated

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Why are you thanking Kyle for everything in this thread? Why are you so upset that he has been offended and why do you feel the need to chime in when I wasn't talking to you?

 

What do you mean by 'Things catch up very quickly to those types of people'? Are you threatening me?

 

One of the main reasons I only read these forums and not participate is because of this 'sheep' culture. Frankly it is so obvious and so pathetic and it makes me generally a 'read only' member

 

 

Ok, tough guy. Get off your high horse. Everyone else is wrong and you're right.

 

You posted in these forums, therefore you are talking to everyone.

 

Sign your full name per the forum rules. 

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With your mindset.... Please keep doing just that. Thank you!

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Ok, tough guy.

 

Why am I tough? Am I physically big and strong or do I have a tough mental attitude? What? Please explain as I don't see why I am tough nor what I have wrote to give that impression?

 

You didn't answer my questions.

With your mindset.... Please keep doing just that. Thank you!

 

I will, thanks.

 

With the replies to myself based on one sentence that I wrote it justifies even more to myself exactly why I do just that.

 

Please put your pitchforks away.

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