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Ray Proudfoot

Consider making forename mandatory in signatures

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I know a lot of people who post on AvSim don't like using their full names. Fair enough. I've never had a problem with it but some will want to 'hide' behind a collection of letters and numbers for whatever reason.

 

But when responding to those people it's sometimes a pain to type out their 'handle' as often it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue (or my fingers on the keyboard!)

 

Could you consider making it mandatory for all forum posters to include their forename in their signature? That would certainly help when replying and wouldn't compromise their identity.

 

Thanks.

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Ray, I've had my 'forename' in my signature for years, yet nearly everyone insists on using my 'forum name' (which is actually my FCC assigned amateur license!) instead... :He He:

 

It's a bit ironic that you mentioned complicated usernames, since there was a fellow yesterday who registered and had so many diacritical marks along with totally random letters it would have really been a chore to try typing it out in a reply... :LMAO:

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There's always exceptions to the rule eh Fr. Bill? Maybe your 'handle' is easy to remember because it's brief. There's also the dilemma of whether people call you Bill or Fr. Bill so n4gix is perhaps the safe option. :wink:

 

The chap you mention is a classic case to strengthen my case. I suppose Tom has the final say.

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Wouldn't copying and pasting the name work for the long or random names?

Exactly! It's a lot easier to copy and paste whatever name/handle you want to reply to than typing it.

 

Is "Broderick" easier to type than "james493"? Is "Jedidiah" easier to type than "63joe4"?

 

As for the "hiding" allegation.. that may be true in some instances but, so what? Some handles are made up for fun too and the person likely uses the same handle in more than one forum... My handle, "alhefner", is what I use in almost every forum I use! The exception is in a couple of outdoor and hunting related forums where I use "Renoyote".

 

No need to go making more and more rules.

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Try the copy / paste option. It gets pasted as a hyperlink. Some may then want to convert it to plain text. More work.

 

All I'm asking is for you to give people the option to use your forename or not.

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I agree fully with you Ray.  I would have thought most individuals here at AVSIM would have included their full name in the signature by now since it is a policy of PMDG for anyone posting to include their full name (that's how I found out there are so many John Doe's who are PMDG customers).  LOL.  Seriously though, I think most people provide their real first names when asked as I think we have a pretty intelligent and mature community.  Hopefully the debate can continue here as I would like to hear some more thoughts on this subject.  Good topic!

 

Best regards,

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Could you consider making it mandatory for all forum posters to include their forename in their signature? That would certainly help when replying and wouldn't compromise their identity.

 

Why - there are already too many mandatory requirements in this world?

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Jim,

 

I was about to make the same point about the PMDG Forum here who, as you say, require your full name. I don't see too many dissenters about that rule.

 

Gerry, since your signature already complies with my request I fail to see your point. People address you as either mgh or Gerry. AvSim is a privately run forum. They can do as they wish.

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All I'm asking is for you to give people the option to use your forename or not.

Well, now, that's a different thing completely Ray Proudfoot... an option, that the USER can select is certainly a good idea but then, that already exists if the user wants it... all they have to do is fill in a signature line with their name or use their real name as a handle...

 

Oh, and I did use copy and paste and just one more click of the mouse to remove the hyperlink...

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I've never minded using my real name in my signature, as it's so common as to be nearly anonymous anyway! ^_^

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Make it a rule and then someone has to enforce it, forum wide. In the last 30 days, as of this writing, we have had just over 19,000 posts made. As enthusiastic as Jim is to see people adopt this, I am sure that if we were to make it a rule, he and his team would go into mutiny mode. And, I wouldn't blame them. You now how onerous and time consuming it is just to enforce our signature rules? Jim and team spend hours of every day doing that and a whole lot more. Asking them to double or triple those volunteer hours would be, well, over the top. Ray, of course, if you are volunteering to undertake that rule enforcement, I might reconsider. :Big Grin:

 

As for giving people the option, we have done that since day one.

 

EDIT: Given the median age of our membership here, I would have thought most would be providing their names anyway. I mean, what 60 something year old uses a moniker like NG5IX????

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Gerry, since your signature already complies with my request I fail to see your point. People address you as either mgh or Gerry. AvSim is a privately run forum. They can do as they wish.

 

My point is that you  want compel me to use my forename. Apart from that, will you expect us to submit an official certificate stating our forenames to AVSIM before we can become members - In reality that would be  pointless and infeasible?

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Maybe we could have our proper facial pic's up as well,  you know so your proper name could correspond with your correct facial pic.  

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I know a lot of people who post on AvSim don't like using their full names. Fair enough. I've never had a problem with it but some will want to 'hide' behind a collection of letters and numbers for whatever reason.

 

But when responding to those people it's sometimes a pain to type out their 'handle' as often it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue (or my fingers on the keyboard!)

 

Could you consider making it mandatory for all forum posters to include their forename in their signature? That would certainly help when replying and wouldn't compromise their identity.

 

Thanks.

(As someone who has always included my forename and surname on internet forum posts), why so you feel the need to force people to do this?     You don't need to write out people's 'long forum monikers', just quote their post and reply - they can clearly then see that you are referring to them.

 

If someone has included a real name in their signature I'll always tend to use it, but it doesn't bother me in the slightest when people don't.    There are many reasons why people may not want to use their real name, and I don't think they should even need to justify or explain them.

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Since this topic seems to be on signatures, why was the line in my signature letting the world know what planes I'm currently flying removed by admins????

 

Especially in that it was no different than the poster immediately above mine??

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Since this topic seems to be on signatures, why was the line in my signature letting the world know what planes I'm currently flying removed by admins????

 

Especially in that it was no different than the poster immediately above mine??

Yep - mine too.  

 

The Admin has written "Sim specs removed by Admin" but my signature did not have sim specs in it; like yours it was just a list of some aircraft I am currently enjoying.

 

This should serve as a lesson about the pointlessness of some bureaucratic 'mandatory' actions.

 

Someone clearly thinks they've done a valuable and important moderation job by removing a couple of aircraft that you and I were enjoying, from our signatures.  :rolleyes: 

 

Oh well....  B)

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Yep - mine too.  

 

The Admin has written "Sim specs removed by Admin" but my signature did not have sim specs in it; like yours it was just a list of some aircraft I am currently enjoying.

 

This should serve as a lesson about the pointlessness of some bureaucratic 'mandatory' actions.

 

Someone clearly thinks they've done a valuable and important moderation job by removing a couple of aircraft that you and I were enjoying, from our signatures.  :rolleyes: 

 

Oh well....  B)

 

Indeed.  I'm actually a bit upset over this, since there cannot possibly be harm in starting what plane you're currently flying or enjoying.

 

My next thought, after a quick perusal through some threads in the PMDG forums, is that they are going to be very, very, very busy removing all the signatures or banners that lsit a product by name from a good percentage of users that frequent that part of the boards.

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Indeed.  I'm actually a bit upset over this, since there cannot possibly be harm in starting what plane you're currently flying or enjoying.

 

My next thought, after a quick perusal through some threads in the PMDG forums, is that they are going to be very, very, very busy removing all the signatures or banners that lsit a product by name from a good percentage of users that frequent that part of the boards.

I really like the guy, and his review work, but interesting to note an AVSIM Staff Reviewer who has images and lot's of info about certain aircraft and products, in his signature.

 

I wonder if the 'rule' that has seen yours and my signatures wiped today will apply there.....

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I really like the guy, and his review work, but interesting to note an AVSIM Staff Reviewer who has images and lot's of info about certain aircraft and products, in his signature.

 

I wonder if the 'rule' that has seen yours and my signatures wiped today will apply there.....

 

It will be interesting to see, indeed.

 

I see that like me, you have also changed your signature to match the current events! :lol:

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what 60 something year old uses a moniker like NG5IX????

 

:lol:, Whats in a name , right?

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see that like me, you have also changed your signature to match the current events!

I wonder if the 'rule' that has seen yours and my signatures wiped today will apply there.....

Thanks guys for your cooperation. The signature rules are pinned in the Hangar Chat forum. I have posted "friendly reminders" here in these forums for almost a year now (maybe even longer) and many ignore my friendly requests so I have gone a step further. It is now a part of our warning system and individuals will now receive warnings when they are in violation of the rules.

 

Apologize Ray for the guys taking over your topic.

 

Best regards,

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My point is that you want compel me to use my forename. Apart from that, will you expect us to submit an official certificate stating our forenames to AVSIM before we can become members - In reality that would be pointless and infeasible?

 

I don't see it as an unreasonable request. You already do it.anyway. It's unlikely to happen for practical reasons.


 

 


(As someone who has always included my forename and surname on internet forum posts), why so you feel the need to force people to do this? You don't need to write out people's 'long forum monikers', just quote their post and reply - they can clearly then see that you are referring to them.

 

Can't see your name on current posts. I would hope people wouldn't feel it was an unreasonable request. Even when I c/p people's posts I often still address them by name. I feel it makes posts more friendly that way.


 

 


Apologize Ray for the guys taking over your topic.

 

Thanks Jim. Somewhat unexpected hijacking!


 

 


There are many reasons why people may not want to use their real name, and I don't think they should even need to justify or explain them.

 

I only asked that forenames be used so I don't see how you can possibly think that would compromise their identity. Whether or not you agree with them we are all obliged to adhere to the rules in a privately run forum.

 

Funny that you would object to having to use your forename in posts but happily post your date of birth on your profile. Something that is not mandatory.

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When I am allowed to do something, it's something I think about and make a decision that's comfortable to me. When that same thing becomes a mandatory "do it or else" type of thing, my attitude about it changes since the ability to have a choice in the matter is taken from me.

 

There is a huge difference and it really doesn't matter what the mandatory or voluntary thing happens to be.

 

As you can see with my handle, I made a voluntary decision that I'm comfortable with by combining my first and last name. If such a handle were to be mandatory, I may not have liked it much and might have not opted to join this great forum.

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