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I know this sounds like a long shot, but theirs a gap in the market for the a350 on fsx at the moment and well im sure if pmdg started a project on it, it'll turn out amazing ?

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I think we a much higher chance of seeing an Aerosoft A350. They're progressing from the A320 family to development of the A330 now, so who knows what's next? :smile: Keep in mind, however, that the A350 is an extremely new aircraft, therefore not much data is readily available at the moment. 

 

For FSX right now, the only half-decent option is the freeware Camsim A350. There's no VC (and no possibility of merging one), but you can merge a 2D panel with it if you wish. 

 

If you want an A350 right now, there's a high-quality (or so I hear) simulation for X Plane 10 made by Flight Factor. 

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Hasn't this topic been beaten to death already? Seems like every few months another one of these topics pop up. "Wouldn't it be nice if PMDG did ______?" Yes it would be nice if they did everyone's favorite aircraft but lets be realistic. Honestly I think if PMDG wants our opinion on what aircraft to do next they will ask it. The folks at PMDG seem to do a lot of market analysis to determine which aircraft they will make so starting these topics every month is pointless.

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It would be nice but seeing how close they are with boeing and their systems it would be surprising, Airbus being a totaly different philosophy. MAybe Aerosoft will do something but they are not on the level of PMDG, so it's good while waiting for a true PMDG level Airbus addon, which has been lacking for years. 

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I'd prefer the PMDG 787 over an A350, I guess I just love Boeing aircraft.

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It would be nice but seeing how close they are with boeing and their systems it would be surprising, Airbus being a totaly different philosophy. MAybe Aerosoft will do something but they are not on the level of PMDG, so it's good while waiting for a true PMDG level Airbus addon, which has been lacking for years. 

Firstly, Airbus designs aren't that different to Boeing. If they were totally different, pilots would have a very hard time transitioning from A to B or vice versa. Secondly a relationship with Boeing does not preclude a relationship with Airbus. Those aren't the reasons why a PMDG Airbus is unlikely at present. It has much more to do with what aircraft types PMDG are interested in simulating.

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We had had autotrim-for-speed in the PMDG Boeing 777 for about one year - how much more Airbus could you possibly ask for???   :lol:

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Why do people want either the 787 or the A350, both are boring?  Push a button to takeoff, button to land and other than that monitor the systems.  The PMDG 777 was a masterclass in that, amazingly well developed aircraft, but so boring.

 

Older the better for me, late 50's, 60's and 70's aircraft, preferably Russian. 

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i have the x-plane a350 and its systems are great,flight factor is working on the pro version now.

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A PMDG 757 would hit the sweet spot and it would be up their alley.  Level D has been saying that it will happen for so long that IF it does, I won't be around to fly it.  I think that the powers that be have some allegiance to LevelD, and that's why they haven't acted on it.  I still fly their 767 and I have given up on their 57.  I'll bet that if PMDG did produce it, it would surpass their T7 sales in a heartbeat.  It's just the bridge between steam & push button automation.

 

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Firstly, Airbus designs aren't that different to Boeing. If they were totally different, pilots would have a very hard time transitioning from A to B or vice versa. Secondly a relationship with Boeing does not preclude a relationship with Airbus. Those aren't the reasons why a PMDG Airbus is unlikely at present. It has much more to do with what aircraft types PMDG are interested in simulating.

We're not talking about transitioning pilots though, think about systems engineers instead (especially avionics). PMDG are able to reuse/adapt some code between their Boeing products to reduce development time, with Airbus they'd have to relearn and then recode almost everything.

 

Whilst I agree that PMDG "being in bed" with Boeing wouldn't preclude an Airbus product, it's very easy for them to get data and information from Boeing because of the relationship they have and it's taken them many years to get to that point.

 

Basically, doing an Airbus is more work because they'd have to start everything from step 1. It takes comparatively less of their resources to bring a Boeing product to market because the foundations are already laid.

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We're not talking about transitioning pilots though, think about systems engineers instead (especially avionics). PMDG are able to reuse/adapt some code between their Boeing products to reduce development time, with Airbus they'd have to relearn and then recode almost everything.

 

Whilst I agree that PMDG "being in bed" with Boeing wouldn't preclude an Airbus product, it's very easy for them to get data and information from Boeing because of the relationship they have and it's taken them many years to get to that point.

 

Basically, doing an Airbus is more work because they'd have to start everything from step 1. It takes comparatively less of their resources to bring a Boeing product to market because the foundations are already laid.

If the concepts and designs were that different it would certainly affect training of pilots. As it happens I am a systems engineer. I work with Airbus and Boeing flight simulator data all the time and working on one is no more difficult than working on the other. The avionics is conceptually very similar apart from the flight control system. Even that has much commonality, only diverging in detail. There would be no need to design an Airbus version of everything from scratch, you could modify much existing code.

 

As for the relationship with Boeing, this is no doubt primarily a commercial relationship and such a relationship with Airbus is equally possible. It wouldn't take years to develop. Yes they would have to start from scratch on a personal level but it is not an impossible barrier. If they were interested in making an Airbus they would make the extra effort where necessary.

 

PMDG are after all creating a classic piston engined DC6. Almost nothing in common with a Boeing jet airliner. They made an MD11 in the past which was far closer in concept to Airbus than Boeing. The J41 is also not like anything else. I don't think it's the aircraft manufacturer which is the problem.

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Why do people want either the 787 or the A350, both are boring?  Push a button to takeoff, button to land and other than that monitor the systems.  The PMDG 777 was a masterclass in that, amazingly well developed aircraft, but so boring.

 

Older the better for me, late 50's, 60's and 70's aircraft, preferably Russian. 

Because it's modern times. Speaking of times, get with it.

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There are plenty of flight simmers who want to fly older aircraft, just like there are plenty of race simmers who want to drive classic cars.

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Why do people want either the 787 or the A350, both are boring?  Push a button to takeoff, button to land and other than that monitor the systems.  The PMDG 777 was a masterclass in that, amazingly well developed aircraft, but so boring.
 
Older the better for me, late 50's, 60's and 70's aircraft, preferably Russian. 

 

Personal preference?

 

Nothing would bore me more than a smelly old 60s Russian aircraft.  Each to their own.     I value technology and simplicity in FS.   Both can be fun.  


A PMDG 757 would hit the sweet spot and it would be up their alley.  Level D has been saying that it will happen for so long that IF it does, I won't be around to fly it.  I think that the powers that be have some allegiance to LevelD, and that's why they haven't acted on it.  I still fly their 767 and I have given up on their 57.  I'll bet that if PMDG did produce it, it would surpass their T7 sales in a heartbeat.  It's just the bridge between steam & push button automation.

 

Gnacino

 

Spot on!  Agree 100%.    (and I'm not even particularly a 757 fan but your thinking is exactly correct).

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Because it's modern times. Speaking of times, get with it.

 

Lol - I suddenly feel the need to put on my Glenn Miller album and reminisce about Ginger and I taking down our first German bomber over the blue skies of France, young whipper-snapper.

 

 

 

Personal preference?

 

Yes each to there own, i was merely voicing my personal preference.

 

I would purchase anything made by PMDG, if they made a 787 i would get it without hesitation but i personally am very much looking forward to the DC-6 and hope that this is the start of a series of older Aircraft.

 

Gramps signing off...

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I certainly wouldn't get your hopes up about an A350!

 

Personally, I'd rather PMDG develop a 787, but any Airbus aircraft seems a longshot for now.

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Guys,

 

Personal opinions should be able to be expressed here without worrying about being attacked by others. If you're part of the group taking shots at another for what someone else is interested in, knock it off.

 

This is just my own, personal opinion, related to opinions expressed in this thread:

  • I love old aircraft. Heck, I was on cloud nine this weekend when I was hanging out in a DC3 and a P51 taxied by. The DC6 is coming down the line, so that should satisfy some of my old airliner hunger to a certain degree.
  • Russian aircraft seem cool. I used Samdim's Tu-114 and Project Tupolev's Tu-154. Both were modeled pretty well and were fun and challenging (especially since I don't know Russian/Cyrillic). I highly doubt that we'd ever venture here, though it would be a cool project/challenge. The Tu-144 and Tu-154 have always been interesting to me. An An-124 and 225 could be cool, but all of those would be pretty niche.
  • I'm no true fan of Airbus, and I don't think much of the rest of the team is, either. At the same time, I don't think any of us truly have a disdain for the manufacturer. Regardless, I don't think anyone here has a passion for their offerings to the point where we'd do it.

 

 

Seriously, though...classic aircraft...

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