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LatinVFR KSNA question

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Good evening,

 

I have a question regarding this scenery: How are FPS at LatinVFRs KSNA especially with "Scenery cast shadows" on.

 

Background: I own some sceneries at which I experience extreme low FPS with shadows on; unfortunately two of them are by LatinVFR. I know that it is recommended to switch shadows off in the manuals of these sceneries, but I like to have one configuration for my simulator with all sceneries.

 

Thanks for writing your experiences!

Regards,

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its not bad for being in a popular dense area...coming from me which has a GTX 980 and a I5@4670K @3.5ghz  non overclocked getting 35-150 in the NGX VC on fsx.

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I use FS9 and in the Qualitywings 757 in front of the main terminal I get about 55-65FPS. This is with ground shadows on, AI aircraft shadows on, 100% AI, FSGenesis mesh, REX clouds and sky textures, and FSrealWX Lite running.

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Thanks for your feedback. Looks as I should use the current sale at SimMarket.

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I'm assuming this one no longer meets your needs??

 

File Description:
Detailed scenery for John Wayne Orange County Airport, Santa Ana, California. This scenery has been designed and developed in GMAX, and captures the real airport 'feel' as much as possible.

 

 

Filename: sna2004.zip License: Freeware, limited distribution Added: 4th July 2004, 17:20:42 Downloads: 17634 Author: Shehryar Ansari Size: 13515kb

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Thanks WingZ, I didn't know.

I only saw the sale announcement and remembered my difficulties with San Diego and (to a lesser extent) San Juan. Will try the freeware first.

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Harald

 

     There is also a 3.1 service pack for that scenery:-     sna2004sp,   if you decide to try it.

 

     Also an Afcad is available as af2_ksna.zip.  Both still available here at Avsim.

 

Colin B

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Guys,

 

thanks for guiding me to Shez' scenery.

But what's your opinion about MK Studios version:

Filename: mkstudios_johnwayne_fs9.zip License: Freeware, limited distribution Added: 11th October 2011, 04:03:32 Downloads: 3938 Author: Mateusz Stabryla MK-Studios Size: 64657kb

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My KSNA is a FS2004 version.

 

The MK Studios is an FSX version. It still needs additional files to work well in FSX which if you write to me I can provide.

 

Shez

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But what's your opinion about MK Studios version:

I had forgotten I had this installed... it's what happens when you have too many toys I suppose :)

 

It's a very competently made scenery, uses aerial photo, has some animated highway traffic too, on the approach (Last pic).

Performance is good, I do get some blitting of taxiway markings on my system. 

 

Some shots:

 

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I just bought the LatinVFR KSNA after using Shez's scenery for years. $15 over at PC Aviator... (Includes "Tuesday discount")... It's actually far better than the screenshots made it look and although Shez is one of the all-time greats of FS9 freeware, his KSNA was getting a bit dated. I am very pleased with the detail and FPS of the LatinVFR version and as it comes with FSX-SE version, it is very good value IMO

 

Yes, you did read that right - FSX-SE.. It's time for me to come out of the closet guys -- I bought it at Easter with 80% discount and I am loving it. I am NOT abandoning FS9.5 as I have way too much time and money invested in it, but FSX-SE really is as good as you've been hearing.  Runs absolutely smoothly on my machine.

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Hi,

 

at first thanks Shez for your help. Unfortunately, I don't understand that the MK Studios version scenery clearly stated as for FS9 is in fact for FSX? Last night I installed it and it looks just as good as at WingZ' (thanks, too!) screenshots. FPS are also good, so that version is my choice for KSNA.

 

Ian, I at least have absolutely no problem with your "coming out". No "FSX stay away" attitude here in my thread, please.

 

Cheers!

Harald

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Runs absolutely smoothly on my machine.

 

Glad to hear it Ian.

 

I'm gradually installing all those FSX sceneries I've been acquiring over the years as a result of purchasing FS9 sceneries.  I notice MyTraffic 6 is on special at the moment and might treat FSX;SE with that.  In P3D I use the ORBX Australian AI free program.

 

All the best with KSNA.   :lol:

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I took the plunge with Latin VFR KSNA.

 

Scenery cast shadows do not work with this scenery because the volumetric grass and static AI cast weird

 

shadows…… you'd think it would be possible to make an object that did not cast shadows (like grass).  :rolleyes:

 

Other than that FPS are good …… scenery is….alright.

 

It passed the alpha searcher test …but the ADE fault finder….not even close. :lol:

 

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I'm not pushing any product but in all fairness, I have had zero problems with this scenery. LatinVFR is a reputable developer who continues to support FS9 and whose products are starting to be equal to some of the best addons. They have even issued free upgrades for some of their earlier sceneries.  

 

As the advertising disclaimer says -- "results may vary." I'm guessing the majority of customers have had good results or there would have been a storm of protests months ago when the scenery was first released.

 

Ed, have you contacted their support people? They may be able to help you identify what's causing the problem you are having with it.

Cheers

Ian

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I have the LatinVFR scenery with the FS9 ground shadows option on, but I have not seen the grass shadows like in Ed's screenshot. :Confused:

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Update: I checked my Latin VFR scenery and I did not have the volumetric grass in my scenery. When I first got the scenery I guess I never installed that option? So I re-installed the scenery with the grass and I did indeed have that shadows on the grass like in Ed's screenshots.

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Ed, have you contacted their support people? They may be able to help you identify what's causing the problem you are having with it.

 

I don't have to…I know the answer. "Turn your scenery shadows off!" So that is what I will do. :P

 

I am grateful of the FS9 support. I purchased this scenery also because of the AES support. :smile:

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What says the manual? In the case of KSAN (!), it is clearly stated that shadows have to bei switched off.

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What says the manual? In the case of KSAN (!), it is clearly stated that shadows have to bei switched off.

 

There is nothing in the manual about scenery shadows. But clearly they have to be switched off.

 

See static aircraft block shadow below.

 

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Of course one could remove the grass and static aircraft if this is a problem. :smile:

 

….and one could make the GA runway active only for GA but that's another story.

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I started a topic in the LatinVFR forum asking if there is a way to get rid of the grass shadows without turning off the FS9 ground shadows option.

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I started a topic in the LatinVFR forum asking if there is a way to get rid of the grass shadows without turning off the FS9 ground shadows option.

 

May as well add static aircraft to your topic.

 

I went to have a look a UK2000 airports after this and found they had no scenery shadows at all.

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Well I don't use static aircraft. But I could add the static aircraft shadows for others.

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I've been thinking about this one for a while. I'm still using the old FlyTampa KSAN (wish they rebooted that one like they did KTPA) . I don't care about static AC or volumetric grass so it should be good for me. I'm glad I've got more info on this now so thanks to everyone.

 

Hey ian, quick question, and not to hijack this, I keep hearing FSX SE runs better than the discs. I had FSX Acceleration and tweaked it to a point where it was almost perfect with ORBX installed and the scenery at pretty high levels. There was just these annoying 5 second pauses every once in a while that made me not use it. I think you had the original FSX discs did you not? Is there any real difference between a tweaked disc FSX and SE? It would seem not so but I keep hearing to the contrary.

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