Sign in to follow this  
psolov

Question about Orbx Airports

Recommended Posts

Seeing as there is a great sale on Orbx airports, there are a couple I would like to get like Palm Springs and Juneau. I notice it says as Flightsimstore that you "must" have the regional areas installed to use these. Is this really the case? Being as I am a RW private pilot I rarely ever fly low and slow in FSX... I am all jets. If I had to buy these packs just to use a couple of airports it would be sort of a deal breaker. Can someone shed some light on this? Thanks in advance!

 

Cheers,

Pete

Share this post


Link to post
Help AVSIM continue to serve you!
Please donate today!

There is no region for Palm Springs, so I guess it blows that "must" out of the water?

 

Certainly the airports will look better with a regional package,but will function stand alone as well.

Share this post


Link to post

Thanks! I guess I will take the plunge then.

Share this post


Link to post

If you read the product description for Palm Springs it says it's more or less a stand alone product and a region is not necessary, but it's designed for use with Orbx Global. However, it will also work with stock , GEX or MegaScenery Earth.

 

As for other airports that are designed for use with the region packs, I have Jackson Hole and the Lake Tahoe airport installed without the corresponding regions and they work fine.

Share this post


Link to post

Thanks, your reponses are much appreciated! It seems we have a full month to take advantage of the sale so there is no telling how much pain my wallet will have to withstand!

Share this post


Link to post

There is no region for Palm Springs, so I guess it blows that "must" out of the water?

 

Certainly the airports will look better with a regional package,but will function stand alone as well.

I've just bought Pam Springs and it states that ORBX Global Base is required for it to work. I've also bought Monterey, and discovered that for that to work I need NA Gold Northern California. That would explain why earlier on when flying out of Monterey the Majestic Q8-400 just fell off the runway into a deep chasm. So, I've had to get that today. Luckily it is still on sale.

Share this post


Link to post

I have all of the Orbx Regions except Norway. Therefore, I don't know how Orbx airports designed for Regions perform without them.

 

However, I don't have Orbx Global. I do have a number of Orbx payware and freeware airports which are described as "must have Global". I have not been able to discern any problem with them being installed over my FSX Default scenery. Perhaps, those more sophiscated than me when it comes to flight simming might be able to detect something but I can't and I have beern satisfied with the outcome.

 

Gary

Share this post


Link to post

I've just bought Pam Springs and it states that ORBX Global Base is required for it to work.

Their stance is a little misleading on that. Global is not required for it to work, rather it's designed to blend with Global textures. So if you use it with MegaScenery Earth or GEX there maybe some differences in the colors at the edges of the scenery. Jarred himself has confirmed that in their forum as some people are using It layered on top of MegaScenery Earth. Of course they say Global is required is because they want you to buy it as well, but it works without it as well.

 

http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/86649-the-desert-oasis-introducing-palm-springs-international-airport/page-2

 

As far as their other airports that are designed to be used in their regions, the ones I mention prior work fine without having the appropriate regions installed. In the case of Monterey, since I don't have it I can't say how well it work. But if your handy with some of the freeware design tools and check for duplicate AFCADS and vector data from UTX or Vector, you can probably solve the "cliff" issue without buying the region pack.

Share this post


Link to post

A "cliff" problem can also work the other way ie against Global users.

 

One of the Global payware products CNK4 Parry Sound brought complaints from Global users about a cliff at the end of the runway and which had sought to be hidden by trees.

 

However, my installation over FSX Default scenery did not show a cliff and I experienced no problem in that regard - see http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/92664-cnk4-mesh-cliff/#entry847119

 

Gary

Share this post


Link to post

A "cliff" problem can also work the other way ie against Global users.

 

One of the Global payware products CNK4 Parry Sound brought complaints from Global users about a cliff at the end of the runway and which had sought to be hidden by trees.

 

However, my installation over FSX Default scenery did not show a cliff and I experienced no problem in that regard - see http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/92664-cnk4-mesh-cliff/#entry847119

 

Gary

One of the big reasons for cliff problems and anomalies with airports come from the use of different vector products, multiple AFCADs and .cvx files. Some of the vector products include airport elevation fixes, add that to users of MyTraffic which installs AFCADs, then people install payware airports over the top of all this. Without using the AFCAD scanner from Scruffy Duck, it's possible you could have three sets of AFCADs installed for one airport and end up with a slew of elevation problem and other anomalies.

 

Anytime I install a new airport I always run the scanner to see what it turns up. In the past prior to running the scanner I'd have instances where I would routinely find 2 to 3 sets of AFCADs for one airport. Some would be from MegaScenery product, then another one from UTX, and another one from an ORBX region. This happened a lot in the ORBX PNW area and caused all types of elevation problems with airports.

Share this post


Link to post

I've just bought Pam Springs and it states that ORBX Global Base is required for it to work.

 

Negative this was the first airport where they did not require a region same goes for Sedona which I have my eye on after I get a working Hawker - Sedona to Palm Springs would be a nice flight

Share this post


Link to post

Negative this was the first airport where they did not require a region same goes for Sedona which I have my ey on after I get a working Hawker - Sedona to Palm Springs would be a nice flight

Yes it would be a nice flight, am looking real hard at Sedona myself.

Share this post


Link to post

Disable "4th party" photoscenery for the airports' coverage: Otherwise it will "kill" the autogen modeled into the ORBX products.

Share this post


Link to post

Sedona is a must. Amazing scenery.

 

Palm Springs to Sedona in the turbine duke is incredible.

 

Hirdy

Share this post


Link to post

I did CYVR to Palm Springs on the Air Canada Rouge 319 new route. 

 

The approach in PSP is epic.

Share this post


Link to post

I also thought you needed Global to have the major airports.   Anyways Global is worth it.  I just use Global + Regions + Airports.  

 

 

Sedona is a must. Amazing scenery.

Palm Springs to Sedona in the turbine duke is incredible.

Hirdy

Yes i have Sedona,  its very good.  I will be picking up Palm Springs and Jackson's later.  The fact that Palm and Sedona are so close together * about 230NM i think*, makes it an attractive purchase 

Share this post


Link to post

Their stance is a little misleading on that. Global is not required for it to work, rather it's designed to blend with Global textures. So if you use it with MegaScenery Earth or GEX there maybe some differences in the colors at the edges of the scenery. Jarred himself has confirmed that in their forum as some people are using It layered on top of MegaScenery Earth. Of course they say Global is required is because they want you to buy it as well, but it works without it as well.

 

http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/86649-the-desert-oasis-introducing-palm-springs-international-airport/page-2

 

As far as their other airports that are designed to be used in their regions, the ones I mention prior work fine without having the appropriate regions installed. In the case of Monterey, since I don't have it I can't say how well it work. But if your handy with some of the freeware design tools and check for duplicate AFCADS and vector data from UTX or Vector, you can probably solve the "cliff" issue without buying the region pack.

Wish I had read your post before I purchased NA Gold Northern California late last night. Unfortunately, I am not a wizard with freeware design tools to check duplicate AFCADS, nor do I have any MSE or GEX sceneries. Take a look at the screenshot below. At first I thought it was duplicate BGLsWeirdSceneryAtOrbxsMonterey.jpg

Share this post


Link to post

 

 


Take a look at the screenshot below. At first I thought it was duplicate BGLs
Quote

 

Have you run the latest Orbtx Libs?? 

Share this post


Link to post

Negative this was the first airport where they did not require a region same goes for Sedona which I have my eye on after I get a working Hawker - Sedona to Palm Springs would be a nice flight

Hi Rich. Maybe I've just read your post in time to stop me shelling out $62 for their Global Base as I've already picked up Palm Springs, so hoping as per you stating 'negative', I may not require it. Have not tried Palm Springs yet.

 

That Sedona looks attractive too.

Quote

 

Have you run the latest Orbtx Libs?? 

 

Hi Elaine. Yes, I have Orbx  FTX AA Libs that is topmost in the Scenery Library, but have no idea if it is the latest. How would I be able to verify that?

IsThisOrbxPalmSpringsorDefault.jpgJust to verify Rich's advice that I do not meed Global Base for Palm Springs to function properly, fired up the sim and loaded Palm Springs but am sure if the attached screenshot of Palm Springs is the default airport or is it what the Orbx version really looks like? Orbx experts here may be able to clue me. Thanks.

Share this post


Link to post

Rick,  you need to always load Orbtx Libs Last.  So if you update or change your Scenery,  you need to then run the Libs installer Last!! Every time


Go here,  then go to the bottom of the page and download the latest Libs

 

https://fullterrain.com/support


  Orbx Libraries P3Dv2   Version 150331   31st March 2015
  • New library objects
  • FTX Central v2 Installer
LEGAL NOTICE: The Orbx libraries (Orbxlibs) are licensed for use ONLY with Orbx products licensed by our customers. Whilst they are freely distributed on this site and our forums it is for the support of our own products only. It is EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN to modify, use, call GUIDs, reference, extract or in anyway make use of Orbxlibs in any software project be it freeware, donation ware or payware. Any mis-use of Orbxlibs will invoke legal action.
DOWNLOAD

Share this post


Link to post

 

Rick,  you need to always load Orbtx Libs Last.  So if you update or change your Scenery,  you need to then run the Libs installer Last!! Every time

Go here,  then go to the bottom of the page and download the latest Libs

 

https://fullterrain.com/support

  Orbx Libraries P3Dv2   Version 150331   31st March 2015

  • New library objects
  • FTX Central v2 Installer
LEGAL NOTICE: The Orbx libraries (Orbxlibs) are licensed for use ONLY with Orbx products licensed by our customers. Whilst they are freely distributed on this site and our forums it is for the support of our own products only. It is EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN to modify, use, call GUIDs, reference, extract or in anyway make use of Orbxlibs in any software project be it freeware, donation ware or payware. Any mis-use of Orbxlibs will invoke legal action.
DOWNLOAD

 

You star, Elaine. Just before reading your most helpful post I went to the FTX page and commenced downloading the latest OrbxLibs for P3D v2.

 

So, I have to run that OrbxLibs installer each time I add an Orbx scenery? Is that right?

 

And if you look at the screenshot, what you are saying is that OrbxLibs should be at the bottom of that pile as arrowed?

 

SecneryLibrary.jpg

Share this post


Link to post

Rick

 

Your post #19 screenshot does not look to me like the Orbx version.

 

It will take me too long to fire up FSX to do a screenshot of my Orbx Palm Springs (installed over FSX Default) but go to the screenshots on the product page on the Orbx/FTX website and you will notice the difference. Make an allowance for them being based on Global.

 

Gary

Share this post


Link to post

 

 


So, I have to run that OrbxLibs installer each time I add an Orbx scenery? Is that right?

Yes every time you add anything from Orbtx,  weather it be an update or Airport or Scenery you have to run the Orbtx Libbs Installer,  and this has to be done last.

 

Heres what i do,

 

I open up FTX Global,  Click on the Europe icon and hit apply and then close FTX Global.  I then run the Orbtx Libs.  

 

Open up FTX Global again, Click on Global/World and hit apply, and then close FTX Global.  Again run Orbtx Libs. 

Share this post


Link to post

I am baffled.  Before,  people keep telling me I need base package to install if I want to use PAJN Juneau and PAKT Keitchen airports.

 

Now all of you are saying that PAJN and PAKT as well as Jackson Hole airport run fine with FSX default ground textures??????????????

Share this post


Link to post

 

 


And if you look at the screenshot, what you are saying is that OrbxLibs should be at the bottom of that pile as arrowed?

 

OOPS be careful in there,  i never go in there.  Orbtx products have a way of installing themselves correctly and into there own order. 

 

To be honest looking at that screen shot i might as well be looking into a dark room.  Ive never had a problem with order,  i just run the installer and then the libs last.

 

The only problem i have had with any Orbtx stuff is the runways and scenery floating in the air.  The cause of this was that i didn't have my Mesh Resolution at 5 it has to be at 5

Share this post


Link to post

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this