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Fantastic New Driving Simulation - Project Cars

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The last time I got bitten by the driving bug was when Gran Turismo 5 was released for the PS3.

 

I've been following the previews for Project Cars in recents months and was eager to see it running on my own gaming rig.

 

For anyone interested, here is a short video I made using ShadowPlay:

 

http://goo.gl/39klnH

 

Oh and I fly a lot better on a PC than I drive  :lol:

 

Cheers,

 

Jerome

 

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Nice, might need a new paint job after that run :rolleyes:

 

Cheers

Martin

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Thanks Martin.

 

I spent an hour this morning trying to get my PS3 controller working with Project Cars on the PC, as I didn't really want to use my Thrustmaster stick for steering. The steering is still way too sensitive, hence the paint job requirement  :rolleyes:

 

The attention to detail in this driving sim is terrific, the sounds among the best I've experienced in a driving sim. I detected no performance hit when driving solo or with lots of cars around me. I'll update the post with some Le Mans track action later on this evening.

 

Cheers,

 

Jerome

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I'm running PCars on PS4 and had to make some adjustments to the gamepad in the controller settings to get it feeling nice as it was quite twitchy out of the box. Now it's pretty good and I'm enjoying driving with it. I have TM wheel but it's nice just to pick up the DualShock and drive. :)

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Fantastic on what? In the previous years we had tons of good games graphic wise. But does it have any improvement for the simulation?

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For realistic physics junkies there is Assetto Corsa, with laser scanned tracks, especially Nordschliefe! But Assetto Corsa lacks good sound,and sense of speed = bad immersion. Also AI is not the best and also online is still like a beta. pCARS lacks ultra realistics physics (but it's still quite good and enjoyable), but beats AC in AI, good races, online and especially immersion - awesome sound and sense of speed. Last night I had an utterly brilliant race in GT4 class on Spa with 19 AI grid, and possibly the best AI race experience I had in my 10 or more racing on a  PC experience, and that's something.

 

I said that physics in pCARS is not that realistic, but for me is more enjoyable than AC, possibly because of a brilliant immersion. Physics is smooth, Gran Turismo like (so called semi-sim) which is a perfect for casual gamers and hard core simmers.

 

One tip: try to drive night race on Le Mans, or even with rain, brutal visual and driving experience.

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Fantastic on what? In the previous years we had tons of good games graphic wise. But does it have any improvement for the simulation?

 

Ciao Francesco,

 

Fantastic because I find it absolutely riveting and it makes me drool more than my neighbours Rottweiler  :lol:

 

No seriously, I usually decide within a few minutes if I find a game or sim appealing, which will kind of coerce me into spending more time with it, and the appeal will fade or grow, depending on just how good the overall package is. 

 

Let’s see, what do I find attractive about Project Cars so far:

 

Installed with both 32- and 64-bit versions available

The GUI

Spoken interface comments to aid selection 

Availability of cars and circuits (I do miss Ferrari though)

Attention to detail (leaves, exhaust fumes, etc.)

Customization possibilities

Graphic fidelity

Fluidity on my system

Lighting is outstanding

Sound is superb

Level of immersion is brilliant

Best AI I have come across in recent years

Look and feel of the replay feature

Real sense of speed

 

I really liked Assetto Corsa when I first fired it up, I did find it too sterile though.

 

Below are links to some more videos I just finished uploading.   

 

Cheers,

 

Jerome

 

http://goo.gl/ug5QN4

 

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http://goo.gl/RrTTrp

 

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I haven't played car games since rFactor so i am a little out of the loop, but i saw a lot of games with good graphics but also easier driving. So that's what i was wondering about the most :)

Thanks for the detailed answers!

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I have already chosen the race simulator that I want. and that is Assetto Corsa. The best physics engine that I have ever experienced in a racesim, and that is the single most important aspect to me. I haven't tried pCars, but I am the kind of person that sticks with one sim of a particular type (P3D for flight simulation, and Assetto Corsa for race simulation).

 

For the record, I use a Logitech G27 wheel for driving on the PC.

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Hi Christopher,

 

I agree that Assetto Corsa has an absolutely superb physics engine. Unless you like belting around a track on your own though, the AI to me is key in being able to deliver an immersive experience void of any realism killing hiccups made by other drivers around me. If you are really into Assetto Corsa then I recommend you don't give Project Cars a miss, as it really has a lot to offer.

 

And thanks for the headsup on the G27 wheel....if I buy anymore equipment I will need an extra spare room for all my sim controllers though, my desk is becoming way too small  :lol:

 

Cheers,

 

Jerome

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Using a good wheel with Assetto really makes a difference, the feedback is incredible, almost like actually driving. I don't think it can be topped tbh but I'll certainly be more interested in looking at user feedback and videos of Pcars now.

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Using a good wheel with Assetto really makes a difference, the feedback is incredible, almost like actually driving. I don't think it can be topped tbh but I'll certainly be more interested in looking at user feedback and videos of Pcars now.

What is your recommendation for a good wheel, I'm thinking of looking into this?

 

Thanks - Martin

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Picked this up as well, and frankly having a blast - it's a great break from flight-simming while I build my new PC for FSX.  There are tons of "fanbois and haters" out there on both sides of the opinion fence for this title, so I ignore them all and just marvel at the sense of immersion and speed I get running Spa - Is Pcars the best thing since sliced bread? Probably not, and it's not the racing-sim masterwork that Gran Prix Legends is (even now), but the hell with all that - I am grinning ear to ear... 

 

...it's been so long since I raced that I still have and use my Microsoft Sidewinder FFB wheel - talk about "old school"... :P

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Is that an old Sauber that you are driving? That is one amazing sim. May have to pick that up. WOW is the only word that comes to mind that I can post.

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I wish someone would make a realistic driving Sim that was open world....

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This is an interesting thread for me, I've always felt like I was stuck in between racing games.  Games like burnout etc are too arcade like for me, yet I don't really have the time (or likely skill frankly) to really master some of the more demanding sims (similar to what was mentioned previously I'm a much better sim pilot than sim driver!).  I've been thinking about picking up Assetto Corsa - the real attraction for me is the open concept, modding etc, but now Project Cars has me thinking...

 

I'd be curious to hear people's thoughts on which is more approachable for the interested, yet still slightly casual simmer..

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I've been looking into Project Cars. My only issue with switching from flying to driving is the clutter of having my steering wheel and pedals and flight controls and rudder pedals always ready to go when I feel like doing one or the other. So until I hit a new low or burnout of flying my setup will stay as it is. I have also looked into the motorcycle game called "Ride". I think I am more likely to do motorcycle games with a  gamepad controller as opposed to driving cars with gamepad.

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Is that an old Sauber that you are driving? That is one amazing sim. May have to pick that up. WOW is the only word that comes to mind that I can post.

 

It is indeed, and it comes in various "liveries" too  B)

 

Cheers,

 

Jerome

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What is your recommendation for a good wheel, I'm thinking of looking into this?

 

Thanks - Martin

 

I use the Logitech G25, cheaper than the G27 but every bit as good (friend has 27). Having had a few cheaper wheels previously, it's like night and day. I picked one up second hand on a site similar to ebay. Can't recommend it enough.

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I agree that Assetto Corsa has an absolutely superb physics engine. Unless you like belting around a track on your own though, the AI to me is key in being able to deliver an immersive experience void of any realism killing hiccups made by other drivers around me.

 

I haven't actually raced AI drivers in PC sims for at least five years. If I want to race, I go online to do it against other human drivers. Assetto Corsa certainly has its problems in that department, but you can still have immensely enjoyable races online. Unfortunately, you also get many disrespectful drivers who simply don't care about the enjoyment of others. First corner pileups have attained almost legendary status, but it's generally down to a handful of idiots who just do not learn (or more probably....don't actually care) to be more careful at the start. I often start at the back of the grid, so I see it all. Idiots that fail to brake in time (or try to overtake on the grass), and cause a domino effect as cars ping and bounce off each other. Then everyone tries to recover without being careful. Cue yet another pinball session. It's utterly crazy, and extremely annoying! However, if you can avoid these incidents (and it isn't as easy as some people may think), then online racing in Assetto Corsa can be sublime.

 

As far as offline is concerned, I use that for practice sessions. The cars in Assetto Corsa feel so good that simply driving them is enjoyable. There are a small handful of cars that I am not interested in....

 

* All open wheelers (apart from the awesome Lotus 49). The latter is superb precisely because it has next to no downforce when compared to the others, and that Ford Cosworth engine sounds fantastic!

* I will never, ever drive an LMP car. They look awful. Simple as that. I prefer to drive cars in AC, not ugly rubbish that looks like it's come straight from a dodgy science fiction movie.

 

As for the rest, I like to drive each one for several laps before switching to the next one. Testing a single car for 500 successive laps at the same track to work out a precise setup ain't my style.

 

It would be nice to see a few of you guys online in Assetto Corsa. I use my real name online just like I do here, so you should recognise me. Look for the guy complaining in the chat section after being rammed off the track at the start yet again :mad:

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I kinda miss how many mods rFactor has/had. Is there a recent game with alla mazing graphics and physics and all that, and that keeps the modding community happy?

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I wish someone would make a realistic driving Sim that was open world....

 

pGridlock anyone?  :lol:

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Feels strange to see new threads about PCars.  I was a backer way, way back when it first was possible to do so, and have played it on and off through many successive versions over the years.  It just doesn't seem like it's a new release. :)

 

That said, Project Cars sums up pretty much everything I've ever looked for from a racing game.  I should qualify that by saying that I was huge fan of the GT series on Playstation.  So appropriately, I want a semi-realistic yet fun to play sim.  I like enough involvement and tweaking and fiddling to keep me busy yet not have to open a textbook.  Add in nice graphics, decent handling (I can't comment on whether it's perfect or not), good AI, and I'm sold.

 

One of the highlights for me is tossing carts around; they are really, really fun. ^_^

 

The only reason that I don't play it more often is that I have a ton of rather bulky flight controls all bolted down to my simpit!  But, since it's now actually 'released', maybe I'll have to dig my wheel out and give 'er a go!!

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In a way, I sort of view PCars in the same light as FSX, do they both have the best physics models available? Not overall generally speaking, for instance, many folks think XPlane is the superior flight sim in that regard (YMMV), but somehow FSX (with many, many add-ons to be sure), and now PCars have managed to tap into a level of immersion for me that other offerings lack - even my personal racing favorite of old, Gran Prix Legends. So, it looks like there will be a fair amount of equipment switching going on at my  house for the foreseeable future  :Big Grin:

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