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Looking to build a "light" gaming rig - no $5000 machine I need to mortgage though... : )

 

 

I am wondering if I should start with the video card. I've always liked the nVidia stuff, and would like to be able to run 3 monitors.

 

That said - mostly this is for FSX, P3D, and XP, but my son will likely game on it a bit (or a lot). 

 

I'd like to keep the GPU budget >=$300 to start if possible, and work the rest of the computer around it.

 

Would like to keep the whole thing under $1K if we can. I realize the other components are for other questions, but thought I'd throw it out there since it might be influenced by the card.

 

Any guidance appreciated...

 

thanks

Andrew

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Try this to start with and then shave off what you think you may not need.  Look beyond the sticker shock as it is posted currently at about twice what you want to spend.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zjfgjX

 

I would take those components and then search online for other places that may have it cheaper.  The biggest cost will be the video card, but a 980 right now is a good choice.  Good luck!

 

-Jim

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Regarding the GPU.   The best bang for buck out the now is the GTX 970.  Showing UK prices 

 

2 different types,  don't know the difference 

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-NVIDIA-Edition-Graphics-Express/dp/B00NQ862GY

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nvidia-GeForce-Strix-Graphics-Express/dp/B00NFFAW50

Difference in memory type, DDR3 vs GDDR5 (Asus vs. Gigabyte, respectively).  Of course, difference in manufacturer, although both make good cards.  Scrutinizing performance would take looking in depth at sites that cater to that.  Asus does outwardly advertise overclocking, if that's your thing too.

 

The list I posted was a good base to work from and if price is a real concern, you most certainly can downgrade to the 970, which I would recommend.  The 970 is still a good heavy hitter.  If it's future-proofing you're after, you may fair better with the 980, but considering it is rather new, the price will be higher.  The Asus is ranked #2 on the best seller's list compared to #11 for Gigabyte.

 

Oh the choices....

 

-Jim

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Thanks everyone! Great info!!

 

That PC Part Picker site is really cool too.

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I will steal the thread, hehe, I'm planning to replace my GTX 560, primarily because P3D2. My budget is 200-250 euros, and I want to know, from your experience, which nVidia card in this budget range is the best solution for P3D2 and generally?

 

Thank you in advance!

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One more for GTX970. Best bang for the buck and later on you can add another one for SLI and you are more then ok for the next few years.

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Anyone using the GTX960 2GB? Been looking at posts till I am numb - many say that for FS9 (and to an extent FSX) the GTX960 is fine. I would want to use two monitors though (one for FSNavigator in FS9, the other for the sim)

 

Trying to economise a little on this new rig (i5-4690K CPU)..

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Anyone using the GTX960 2GB? Been looking at posts till I am numb - many say that for FS9 (and to an extent FSX) the GTX960 is fine. I would want to use two monitors though (one for FSNavigator in FS9, the other for the sim)

 

Trying to economise a little on this new rig (i5-4690K CPU)..

 

For FS9 even my GTX 560 is more than fine, I was trying hard to bring FPS below 60. For FSX, well better cards will do some job in DX10 mode, in DX9 it is a waste of money.

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Looking to build a "light" gaming rig

 

For multi-monitor the more VRAM the better, X-Plane and P3D can like more RAM in some circumstances and use logical cores. Possibilities:

i5-4690 + GTX960 4GB + 8GB DDR3 kit (1866 - 2133MHz)      £££ :smile:

i5-4690 + GTX970 4GB + 8GB DDR3 kit (1866 - 2133MHz)      £££ :mellow:

i7-4790 + GTX970 4GB + 8GB DDR3 kit (1866 - 2133MHz)      £££ :(

i7-4790 + GTX970 4GB + 16GB DDR3 kit (1866 - 2133MHz)    £££ :o Not so light gaming!

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Just to emphasize.. for the CPU the "K" version!

 

4790 not,  4790K yes!

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All 970s have GDDR 5.

 

There is very little difference between these cards outside of the cooling solution.

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Just to emphasize.. for the CPU the "K" version! 4790 not, 4790K yes!

 

YES... indeed!!! The i5-4690K and i7-4790K is what the OP should consider.

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YES... indeed!!! The i5-4690K and i7-4790K is what the OP should consider.

 Yes, it's definitely one or the other! I am tending towards the latter and a GTX970 4GBs, but we'll see.

 

Thanks again for all the replies. Your time and input is genuinely appreciated

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<p>Since you mentioned XPlane - I want to weigh in with some advice.  Buy the most Video memory you possibly can on the Gaming card.  The TITAN (NOT the Titan "BLACK"!) features 6GB of VRAM which is critically important in xPlane, and certainly nothing less than 4GB in any case - because 2GB is a non-starter for advanced graphics in XPlane.  Can you fly with it?  Sure.  Will you be able to have maximum eye candy?  NO.  Since XPlane is ideally suited for multiple pcs and networking- again, more memory across the board is a good thing.  32GB of system ram (XPlane, unlike FSX or P3Dv2, is 64-bit and can address ALL the ram in your system, all the way up to the terrabyte world... so traditional PCs with 16 or less GB, are simply going to limit you.</p>

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<p>Yes, I am aware of your 'budget', and I respect that.  However, you need to be forewarned to be forearmed, and buying the wrong video card to begin with is going to cause pain in every game you throw at it.  Not just flight simming.</p>

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<p>That said, at the end of the day, only you know what you are willing and able to spend.  The Titan card alone is in the $1000 world...but a 4GB 970 would certainly work.  FYI, neither FSX nor P3Dv2 can benefit from higher VRAM (video ram on the graphics card) the way that XPlane can.  Xplane was designed from the ground up to take full advantage of modern graphics cards.  FSX is eight or 9 years old and is CPU dependent, not GPU.</p>

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<p>Hope this gives you another tangent to consider.  And of course you need good power supply, I would suggest 650 watts or more.</p>

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<p>The "Titan" nvidia card has 6gb VRAM and ONE GPU chip.  The Titan Black is basically 2 Titans on one card, meaning 12GB Vram and 2 GPU chips, but this is like SLI, you only have 6GB of vram addressable...AFAIK, the Titan BLACK is wasted money in SIMMING, as none of the top 3 sims benefit from SLI afaik.  The Titan Black is significantly more expensive and may have overheating issues, thus the regular TITAN is my recommended card for those with deep pockets.  Titans are reference cards and do not feature the cooling pipes and dual cooling fans of non-reference designs.  If you're going a 4GB 970 I strongly recommend MSI brand.  Their GAMER OC edition is THE card to buy.  GREAT cooling.</p>

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<p>And of course if you are thinking of overclocking, I suggest doing a LOT of research on COOLING solutions.  Ultimately I had to de-clock my ASUS 4.7 Ghz i2600K system as it began to lock up at 4.70 gigahertz (overclocked).  Never a good thing in gaming - especially in the middle of a long cross-country flight!</p>

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Did I mention X-plane?? I don't have it (or plan to - if I were 30 years younger, then maybe!), but thanks anyway.

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Did I mention X-plane??

 

That said - mostly this is for FSX, P3D, and XP

 

I think it was for turner112!

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Hmmm, I just bought an ASUS GTX 960 Strix DirectCU II OC  4 GB GDDR5, but I have an i5 2500 :-(   

 

Will it work ? I guess the above table for ideal i5 / i7 and GPUs is just that - best combination - and not really a question of it being incompatible with other ( lower end / older ) processors like my i5 2500, right ?

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Thx Bert  ;-), because while I have it next to the PC, it's still in the box, awaiting free time during next weekend - I hope my PMDG 777 flies even more smoothly with it :-)

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Following on to Roberts post, directed at the OP, regarding X-Plane and video memory / VRAM.

 

I just upgraded to an EVGA 980 Ti SC.  It features 6GB of VRAM, and being overclocked slightly from the manufacturer, is on par performance wise with the Titan at a bit cheaper cost.  However, likely still far outside the budget you've listed....

 

My point in mentioning this, however was to point out that with the newer 6GB card installed, I flew around in X-Plane with a monitor showing usage open on another screen.  It was maxing out at 4750 MB of VRAM used.  So, yes, X-Plane can really benefit from the bigger numbers!!

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970 4 gig deffo 

 

 

 


I just upgraded to an EVGA 980 Ti SC.

Very nice,  i priced this card myself as i'm thinking of upgrading,  816 Euro delivered (891 dollars)   any recommendations on where to buy or just the usual channels 

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