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Best FSX Turboprop?

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Hello everyone! I am thinking of buying a new payware add-on for FSX, and am interested in a Turboprop General Avaition plane. I was wondering what add-on you guys think is the most accurate for me to buy.I really want a plane that is perfect for routes of about 500 nm. I am strongly considering the Carenado TBM-850, but was wanting to make sure that I am making the right move.

 

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-Josh M

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So I did a few minutes tonight looking for the differences between say a turboprop aircraft and a turbine prop aircraft, and came away a bit bewildered.

 

Anyway, not intending to throw the topic off even a bit, but the "turb***" GA FSX model of choice is in my estimation the RealAir Turbine Duke V2. It is an excellent model. Fast. Flies high. Gets to cruise altitude very fast. Excellent flight dynamics. Challenging. Market-best avionics integration. 

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Thanks for the quick reply! I have been considering that plane, looks like it fits the bill of what I need. Just wondering however, does the GTN750 display come with the airplane, or do you have to pay for the package seperately to get the avionics? Thanks!

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The GTN750 is a separate purchase from Flight1, well worth it though.

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If you are looking for the deepest and most accurate overall simulation, including some damage modeling, the Flight1 B200 is still the tops right now.

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No payware comes with the GTN750.  It's a separate purchase, but fits a number of addons.

 

FSX doesn't do Turbo-props well.  But some developers get it better than others.  I don't have the Dash 8 Q400, but most people rave about it.  Many people would argue it's the best.  

 

There are several decent models that aren't too unrealistic, but Carenado doesn't make any of them.  In increasing order of quality of simulation of turbo-props, I'd make it:

 

The Aerosoft Twotter is a decent simulation, with some problems.

 

The Razbam Metro III, although a quirky plane, and far from modern in terms of avionics, does a decent job of modeling the Garrett engines.  

 

The Flight 1 King Air B200 is supposed to be very good (I don't have it).

 

The Milviz King Air 350i is really quite good, even though it's still alpha and some work remains to be done.  As it stands now, though, prop response is far from accurate.  It's speedy.  

 

The Real Air Turbine Duke is indeed a very nice aircraft.  And it's a homesick angel (climbs like a banshee).  You need to fly high to make the most of its engines.  Below 12,000, you'll be limited to just over 200 kts.  

 

I have the PMDG J41, and it is excellent, but, like the Q400, is more of a small commercial airplane than a commuter or GA.  

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Thanks for all the help guys! I think that I have now narrowed the list down to the Beech Duke from Real Air Vs. the TBM850 from Carenado. Which do you guys think I should choose?

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Find something into which you can integrate the Flight 1 GTN 750. You will not regret it! 

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Thanks for all the help guys! I think that I have now narrowed the list down to the Beech Duke from Real Air Vs. the TBM850 from Carenado. Which do you guys think I should choose?

You have to answer the question though:

 

Realair is much better feel to it when you fly

 

Jump in and fly but not very realistic TBM

 

Thats what you have to consider for yourself

 

IMO you will be bored of the TBM much much sooner than the Realair but that's just me.

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The Carenado Beech C90 was my ride of choice and in my opinion still one of the best Carenado releases (C337 also great). And the MilViz B55 Baron is still my nostalgic favorite as it is a very good modeling of the aircraft (military T-42) in which I gained my multi and instrument ratings. That and Master Painter Supreme Ron Attwood did a greater than excellent repaint creation of a US Army T-42, accurate down to a level of decal minutia, 

 

I hesitated buying both the Flight 1 GTN 750 and the RealAir Turbine Duke V2 because each has to be purchased separately for each simulator program and I am close to needing to build a new system, plus Windows 10 is out. I just did not wish to purchase anything for the short term. But school is still somewhat out on Steam and P3D and I keep putting off my new system build until more of that shakes out.

 

Soooo. I finally snagged the RealAir TDv2 and GTN 750, and have not flown significant hours in any other combination since. That is a vast departure for me. That in itself is of mention able significance. 

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The Turbine Duke is my go to airplane and has been from the first day I bought it. The GTN 750 is the icing on the Duke's cake and the two together form one of the best you can get in FSX.

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Just to approve the choice of the Royal Turbine :smile:

 

The below shots are fresh from yesterday. Taken during a 2 hours flight from Glenns Fall (KGFL) to Greenbrier (KLWB) with real weather (ASN)

 

The aim is to show you what you can achieve in terms of system integration with the GTN 750 and a custom weather radar gauge.

 

You fly with modern jet avionics, top notch performance (you can climb at 4000 ft/mn if you closely monitor your engines), in a classy, vintage 60s airframe.

 

:wub:

 

tduke01.jpg

 

tduke02.jpg

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Thanks for all the help guys! I think that I have now narrowed the list down to the Beech Duke from Real Air Vs. the TBM850 from Carenado. Which do you guys think I should choose?

Real Air Duke all the way. Nothing Carenado makes even comes close to the Duke IMHO. Even if you wanted something relatively simple, it doesn't take much to get the duke in the air.

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One more vote for RealAir.

 

The TBM looks nice, but the avionics are sadly lacking and will quickly get to you..

 

The Flight1 King Air is another quality choice.

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Thanks again for all the help everyone! I think I will be choosing the turbine Duke V2. By the way, the turbine instead of piston aircraft is the better option, correct?

Thanks!

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I have to vote for the Real Air Duke Turbine V2. It's a great plane as it comes and you can always add the F1 GTN 750 later. The Majestic Q400 Dash 8 is a great plane, but is more like an airliner and requires a learning curve to master the systems and procedures.

 

The Carenado C90 Kingair is nowhere near as accurate a turboprop model, but I do enjoy flying it. Great frame rates and Carenado does an outstanding job on the textures.

 

A couple more are the Flysimware Cessna 441 and their MU2. Their visuals don't match Carenado, but they have a good model of the Garret turboprop and both planes fly well.

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Thanks again for all the help everyone! I think I will be choosing the turbine Duke V2. By the way, the turbine instead of piston aircraft is the better option, correct?

Thanks!

You have already stated that your average flight will be around 500nm, so high altitude flying for best economy and to fly over some weather would be practical.  With that in mind, you would need to be flying well above 12,000 ft AGL and that is where the turbine engines will show their advantages over the piston engines.  Either will economically cruise above 20,000 ft AGL, but the turboprop will cruise around 50 KTAS faster with a fuel burn of only 10 GPH more than the piston prop.  Even so, JetA costs less than 100LL AvGas, so we are talking about an 18% increase in fuel consumption, but right now, AvGas costs almost 18% more than JetA, so there is little to no difference in fuel costs.

 

The turboprop also has some advantanges down low.  The turboprop has more thrust, allowing a slight increase in useful load and a big decrease in the amount of runway required for takeoff.  The turboprop also has reversible props, so landing distance is significantly less.  Piston powered Dukes will eat up a solid 3000 feet of runway, while turbine Dukes will eat as little as 1000 feet.  The turbine Dukes also have an impressive rate of climb, up to 4,000 ft/min., piston Dukes max out at 1,600 ft/min.

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... and the tduke can be equipped with garmin gtn avionics, whereas the piston duke lacks that option, at present.

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Again, thanks for all the helpful input guys! I have decided to purchase the Turbine Duke V2 and the GTN 750 avionics package. The avionics package will also be great as I can use it with other aircraft such as the amazing A2A Cherokee.Have a great weekend all!

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Turbine Duke with dual GTN750's

 

Would like that, but on my system the 2nd GTN 750 caused noticeable stuttering in hi res areas. I had to revert to just one GTN 750, no more stuttering, and still love the TDv2.


 

 


Again, thanks for all the helpful input guys! I have decided to purchase the Turbine Duke V2 and the GTN 750 avionics package. The avionics package will also be great as I can use it with other aircraft such as the amazing A2A Cherokee.Have a great weekend all!

 

If you use the Turbine Duke V2 config program to install the GTN gauge(s) into the panel (via the config program's "GPS and Radios" section) wait until after doing so to make any personal tweaks you want to make to your pop up gauges. The TDv2 config program rewrites some of the [windowXX] entries in your panel.cfg file.  Ex. I map my pop up GPS gauges to [window05] in all of my aircraft as I have a yoke button mapped to toggle [window05]. I believe the TDv2 config program maps the GTN to [window01] when you run it. So configure with the config program first, then make you own personal tweaks after that.

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Would like that, but on my system the 2nd GTN 750 caused noticeable stuttering in hi res areas. I had to revert to just one GTN 750, no more stuttering, and still love the TDv2.

I understand that - I made some sacrifices to run dual GTN's. I don't use AI (I fly online). Recently I also set texture res to 1m - works well in P3D .

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Does anyone know if having dual 750 GTN's in the TDuke or any plane is a common option in the RW? Not sure why you would need 2 GTN 750, just curious?

 

Thanks - Martin

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Two GTN 750's, one for nav and one for weather using Rolands weather gauge.

 

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