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Good evening all,

 

I'm just doing research on different systems currently to run P3d, and sorry if it's all you keep reading..

 

I am lead to believe a good system to run it is;

 

Mobo- ASUS 7170-A

CPU- Intel i7-6700K Skylake – Over clocked to 4.6 GHz

GPU – GTX 980Ti 6 GB

H100i Watercooler

16GB ram DDR4, 3000Mhz

1TB SSD

Windows 7/10?

 

I am looking for positive and negative points on the above system please, I am aware that P3D runs on one core mostly (although I know LM have adapted this a little so it uses more), So would I be wise to spend the buck on the Skylake or would I be just as well off with the 4790K/5930K?

 

Obviously I want P3d to run as smooth as possible with highish settings (don't we all haha)

 

Any help appreciated,

 

Kind regards

 

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You might want to add what monitor and resolution you want to use. Quite important for picking the right GPU. For 1920x1080 a GTX970 will do (unless you want to be able to use high AA with nVidia Inspector in clouds), if you are going for 4K your choices are quite right. Don't know too much about CPU's right now. And I'd go for Windows 10. Good system with more future than Windows 7.

 

Apart from all that: smoothness keeps on being a problem with P3D. For the best possible smoothness a 4K monitor that can run at 30 hz seems to do the trick. I think it also depends on how much you look around (TrackIR). But you will keep on seeing mesh and textures being loading no matter what. P3D still has its limitations.

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Hi Jeroen

 

Thanks for that, I havent got the monitor yet, it will be a 4K one for sure, so you think this may be a good choice?

 

kind regards

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Hi guys again

 

Ive come to my conclusion i think on my new rig specs, Please could you advise if you would change anything;

 
Id like to achieve decent smoothness with PMDG etc.
 
Case: NZXT H440 Black/Red Mid Tower Case
 
MoBo: Asus ROG Maximus VIII Hero, Intel Z170, S 1151, DDR4, SATAe/SATA3 6Gb/s, PCIe 3.0, SLi/CrossFire, HDMI, ATX Motherboard
 
CPU: Skylake Intel Core i7 6700K CPU Overclocked to 4.6GHz
 
Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H100i GTX 240mm High Performance Multi CPU Liquid Cooler, with Corsair Link
 
RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX Black, PC4-24000 (3000MHz), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 15-17-17-35, XMP 2.0, 1.35V
 
GPU: EVGA 980Ti 6GB 
 
PSU: 850W Corsair HX850i High Performance 80+ Platinum Digital Power Supply
 
Monitor: 28" Acer B286HK 4K Pro Monitor, LED 3840x2160, 1ms, 300cd/m², 100M:1, Speakers, DP/HDMI(MHL)/DVI
 
 
Kind regards

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That system should run P3D v3 very nicely indeed. It is more powerful than mine, and I don't have any significant problems.

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Nice machine Adam,  good times ahead 

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Thanks all, nothing you would change? Do you think i would get decent performance smoothness wise?

 

Also, any news on how well P3D works on Windows 10 yet? Not sure if i should stick to Win7 

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Contrary to the flattering and wider belief,  i'm afraid i'm no expert,  it all looks good though

 

Jeroen will give you a better opinion then me,  ill call him for you, i have a special button that i press and it goes straight to his ear piece   :smile:

 

***Calling J van E***

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Thanks all, nothing you would change? Do you think i would get decent performance smoothness wise?

 

Also, any news on how well P3D works on Windows 10 yet? Not sure if i should stick to Win7 

Adam,

 

P3D works perfectly fine in Windows 10.

 

-Jim

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Almost anyone would love to have a system like that to run P3d (or XP10 for that matter).  Like others have said, it's a lot better than my hardware and I have no trouble running P3d V3 at some fairly high settings. You will probably be able to max out all the display settings and still get excellent frame rates. I also have Win 10 and have no problems. I suggest that you try the Win 10 "Fast Start" option as it will speed up system boot time immensely. Fast Start  is actually a pseudo hibernation mode, where Windows saves a snapshot of the system in the hibernation file at shutdown time and then plunks the whole image verbatim back into memory when Windows 10 boots up. The difference between Fast Start and true hibernation is that with Fast Start enabled, the computer is completely powered down and goes through the BIOS bootup sequence just like a normal cold boot.

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Thanks for your help all, much appreciated. I think this is the system to go for using P3d then :smile: :dance:

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If you are ONLY going to use it for sim and wont use it for other games or intensive apps, maybe you want to save some money with the ram and buy 8GB instead. P3D cant use more than 4GB so if P3D its your only concern 8GB is good to go.

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Adam, since you knocked us Boks out of the semi finals, I won't be offering any advice! :smile:

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Hi guys again

 

Ive come to my conclusion i think on my new rig specs, Please could you advise if you would change anything;

 
Id like to achieve decent smoothness with PMDG etc.
 
Case: NZXT H440 Black/Red Mid Tower Case
 
MoBo: Asus ROG Maximus VIII Hero, Intel Z170, S 1151, DDR4, SATAe/SATA3 6Gb/s, PCIe 3.0, SLi/CrossFire, HDMI, ATX Motherboard
 
CPU: Skylake Intel Core i7 6700K CPU Overclocked to 4.6GHz
 
Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H100i GTX 240mm High Performance Multi CPU Liquid Cooler, with Corsair Link
 
RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX Black, PC4-24000 (3000MHz), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 15-17-17-35, XMP 2.0, 1.35V
 
GPU: EVGA 980Ti 6GB 
 
PSU: 850W Corsair HX850i High Performance 80+ Platinum Digital Power Supply
 
Monitor: 28" Acer B286HK 4K Pro Monitor, LED 3840x2160, 1ms, 300cd/m², 100M:1, Speakers, DP/HDMI(MHL)/DVI
 
 
Kind regards

 

Great looking system, very similar to one i built a few weeks ago, however i'd recommend you go for a G-Sync panel, rather than a fixed refresh, given the nature of the variable sim refresh, i personally can't tell the difference between 1440p or 2160p (4K) on a 27 or 28inch panel, but the sync tech works well when >40fps - even with a 980Ti if you use SGSS in NI you'll punish the GPU% with heavy clouds particularly if you use ASN with enhanced overcast if you are turning high frames, tempted to buy another but money still in my wallet

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If you are ONLY going to use it for sim and wont use it for other games or intensive apps, maybe you want to save some money with the ram and buy 8GB instead. P3D cant use more than 4GB so if P3D its your only concern 8GB is good to go.

 

It is no good idea. Cost difference will be minor, less than addon aircraft or scenery.

 

If you turn off swap in Windows as I did many years ago, and with SSD it is fine for disk fitness, with 8GB only and some running apps like ASN, PlanG, SPAD, some PDF reader and web browser and for windows you easily go about 4GB RAM usage before you run sim. When SIM reach something like 3GB RAM for 7GB overall usage Windows with disabled swap will start with warnings about memory usage and propably will close application which consumes most of memory - P3D.

 

For example I'm runnig Turbine Duke with two instances of GTN750. Each runs GTN Trainer at bacground. GTN Trainer easily eats 1,2-1.3GB RAM So 2,5GB RAM used olny by garmin software...

 

With 12GB you are mostly fine, but it is not typical setup, so 16GB is perfect.

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Great looking system, very similar to one i built a few weeks ago, however i'd recommend you go for a G-Sync panel, rather than a fixed refresh, given the nature of the variable sim refresh, i personally can't tell the difference between 1440p or 2160p (4K) on a 27 or 28inch panel, but the sync tech works well when >40fps - even with a 980Ti if you use SGSS in NI you'll punish the GPU% with heavy clouds particularly if you use ASN with enhanced overcast if you are turning high frames, tempted to buy another but money still in my wallet

 

Hey thanks for the advice.

 

So you would advice me to get a G-sync monitor, Maybe i'm getting confused with V-sync here but if the sim drops below 30hz/30fps? doesn't this have a negative impact? I really don't know..

It is no good idea. Cost difference will be minor, less than addon aircraft or scenery.

 

If you turn off swap in Windows as I did many years ago, and with SSD it is fine for disk fitness, with 8GB only and some running apps like ASN, PlanG, SPAD, some PDF reader and web browser and for windows you easily go about 4GB RAM usage before you run sim. When SIM reach something like 3GB RAM for 7GB overall usage Windows with disabled swap will start with warnings about memory usage and propably will close application which consumes most of memory - P3D.

 

For example I'm runnig Turbine Duke with two instances of GTN750. Each runs GTN Trainer at bacground. GTN Trainer easily eats 1,2-1.3GB RAM So 2,5GB RAM used olny by garmin software...

 

With 12GB you are mostly fine, but it is not typical setup, so 16GB is perfect.

 

Thanks for that, Ill stick with the 16GB then, makes more sense 

 

 

Adam, since you knocked us Boks out of the semi finals, I won't be offering any advice! :smile:

 

Sorry about that bro, maybe next time eh???  :dance:  :Party:

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Concur. the 4-gig limit is per 32-bit application, not per operating system.

 

Good advice from Komplik.

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Hey thanks for the advice.

 

So you would advice me to get a G-sync monitor, Maybe i'm getting confused with V-sync here but if the sim drops below 30hz/30fps? doesn't this have a negative impact? I really don't know..

The G-sync smoothness starts to break down below 40fps, but you won't drop below 30fps with that system,  i'd be pretty sure, given i have very similar.

 

I don't recommend locking at 30hz, why do that when you typically (vast majority of the time) will get 50-70fps, running un-limited gives me the best perf.

 

If you get a G-sync panel, turn V-sync off, my own experience, G-sync is not very good <40fps Just get the minor stutters as you might expect on a 60hz panel without v-sync noticable with horiztonal panning in the VC, looking straight ahead is fine, between 40-60 is good, 60-80 is very good and 80+ fps is excellent, 100-144hz on a flyby or external spot view is pure buttery goodness.

 

G-Sync +V-sync is also an option, particularly if you are making recordings for 60hz panels or between 40-60frames is common.

 

i've a few vids made with my new system that will give you an idea of performance given your planned system is so similar to the rig i'm currently running, here:

 

 

last 3 vids made with my 6700k system, these are recorded at 30 and 60hz etc, so not exactly how you actually see them live, but still gives you an idea of performance you might expect very similar.

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Hi all,

 

I've finalised my build;

 

  • Case: NZXT Phantom 530 Full Tower
  • MoBo: Asus Z170-A
  • CPU: Intel i7 6700k Overclocked to 4.6GHz
  • RAM: 16GB (2X8GB) DDR4 Vengeance LPX, 3000MHz (15-17-17-35)
  • Cooler: Corsair Hydro H110i
  • PSU: 750W Gold Modular
  • GPU: Asus STRIX 6GB GTX 980Ti
  • SSD: M.2 256GB Samsung PCIe 3.0
  • SSD: 500GB Samsung 850 EVO 2.5''
  • OS: Windows 10 Home 64bit

Not sure if I will put P3D or OS on the M.2, my guess will be putting the OS on it and P3D on the 850 EVO.??

 

I've not ordered it yet, but any feedback would be great.

 

It's slightly changed from my first spec list thanks to you wonderful people on here who are a great help to someone like me!

 

Thanks!

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