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Microsoft is aggressively pushing Windows 10. However, I have been reluctant to update from Windows 7 because I fly PMDG a great deal, and as I understand it, they currently only support Win 7.

I usually do a clean install, which entails a lot of work given all the add-ons I have, and as I read AVSIM forums, many have been running Win 10 and PMDG for some time

When will PMDG make an official pronouncement as to supporting Win 10?

Bill Clark

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When will PMDG make an official pronouncement as to supporting Win 10?

 

Bill Clark

 

Already have, for the products mentioned in our article that Bruce linked to.

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Thanks,

 

I must have missed that announcement.

 

This is good news.

 

Bill Clark

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All my PMDG products work fine on my Windows 10 system running FSX and P3D. I currently have the MD-11 (FSX) and NGX (P3D & FSX) installed. 

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I never saw that either.  Still not fully convinced that it is worth the effort to do it, since I am not having any real problems with my Win 7 setup.  Use FSX-SE with ASN, REX Soft Clouds, Pro-ATC X,  GSX, GEX, FS2Crew, a number of add-on airports, and of course PMDG NGX and 777.  Have heard some reports that Steam users experienced a performance boost, but others who did not or who experienced the opposite.  Like Bill, I am not wild about reinstalling everything from scratch.   I assume not doing a clean install would be a bad idea?

 

Core i5 2500k @3.3 Ghz, 16GB if RAM, GeForce GTX 760

 

 

Andrew Jones                                                   

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I assume not doing a clean install would be a bad idea?

 

I'm betting you'd have a better chance of having everything work that way.

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I did the update over my win 8 install just to see if I liked it. I ran everything I had on it for weeks and no problems so then I did a clean install and all still works fine. 

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I did the update over my win 8 install just to see if I liked it. I ran everything I had on it for weeks and no problems so then I did a clean install and all still works fine. 

Any improvements with your sim, either from the clean install, or just from switching to Win 10 in general?  Do you feel it was worth the trouble to upgrade? 

 

Andrew

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Not to venture too far off topic but if there's anyone here on AVSIM that feels like they need to updgrade to W10 just so that they can get rid of the nags (as the OP sort of alluded to), search for a program called GWX Control Panel. Problem solved.

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Garrett, thanks a lot! I will look into it when I get home this weekend. I upgraded to W10 but after a month or two went back to W7, and the upgrade ad is starting to drive me crazy

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After installing Win 10 on my new computer, I'm really not seeing what the issue is...

 

It's a new OS. Anyone who thinks there won't be some initial troubles is kidding themselves. Update your drivers, adjust to a new interface, carry on.

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I personally installed Win 10 the day it was available as Beta and never had a single issue with it.

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I'm still having a hard time understanding why people think that upgrading an OS will break a flight simulator add-on.  Win10 isn't anything revolutionary or that different to cause programs, add-ons and the like to just fail.  I dove in and upgraded, against my initial judgement, but I have no regrets whatsoever.  All of my CADD software works just fine, Office works (of course, it's Microsoft, right?), Adobe products work, everything just works and as it should.  I run P3D v3 with a host of add-ons with not a single things breaking.  As Kyle pointed out, as long as all of your drivers are up to date, you shouldn't have any problems.  As for those who are reluctant to upgrade (which I don't blame you for being skeptical), Microsoft is going to aggressively seek out each and every machine still running old OS's and hound the heck outta ya to upgrade.  If you read the tech trades, articles have been published that state that Microsoft has already been sneaky in sending preinstalls to users machines that have Win7, 8, 8.1 to be at the ready for when they relent and decide to upgrade.

 

I tested the waters, they're fine. <-- if anyone actually puts stock in my opinion. :|

 

-Jim

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It works like a charm, haven´t had any problems, it even looks like windows 10 gives games (in general) better/more FPS.(747-8)

 

Niels Dudink.

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When you guys speak of a clean install do you mean that you reinstall your previous operating system, then upgrade to windows 10 before installing anything else?  Or can you get a Windows 10 disc/thumbdrive from MS?

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Sorry to repeat my question, but to the posters above who had no problems, did you install as an upgrade,without reinstalling everything, or did you do a clean install?  Also, did you find that switching to WIn10 improved your FSX or FSX-SE experience in any way?

 

Andrew Jones

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Install as an upgrade,,,then decide if you like it,,,if you do after some time and it all works for you then do a complete install. This way you can decide and if you don't like it you can revert back to your old op system. I think there is a time limit but it does give you plenty of time before your old op is deleted. 

 

There is a site (forgot which one sorry) that has the full download and you can then put it on a usb drive (dongle) and install from there. Be sure to set your bios to open with the usb dongle. 

 

As far as improving games or sims it all seems the same to me. I just like the new op and to me if feels more like win 7 than win 8. 

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I'm still having a hard time understanding why people think that upgrading an OS will break a flight simulator add-on.  Win10 isn't anything revolutionary or that different to cause programs, add-ons and the like to just fail.  I dove in and upgraded, against my initial judgement, but I have no regrets whatsoever.  All of my CADD software works just fine, Office works (of course, it's Microsoft, right?), Adobe products work, everything just works and as it should.  I run P3D v3 with a host of add-ons with not a single things breaking.  As Kyle pointed out, as long as all of your drivers are up to date, you shouldn't have any problems.  As for those who are reluctant to upgrade (which I don't blame you for being skeptical), Microsoft is going to aggressively seek out each and every machine still running old OS's and hound the heck outta ya to upgrade.  If you read the tech trades, articles have been published that state that Microsoft has already been sneaky in sending preinstalls to users machines that have Win7, 8, 8.1 to be at the ready for when they relent and decide to upgrade.

 

I tested the waters, they're fine. <-- if anyone actually puts stock in my opinion. :|

 

-Jim

Windows 10 broke FS9, or at least it removed the ability to start it the official way. Same for any other legacy game that relies on verifying a CD is legal.

 

What stops me upgrading is the fact that Microsoft are ditching backwards compatibility and who knows what else will cease to work with future updates. I accept that's a pesimistic way of looking at things, but I'm very happy with Windows 7 and simply don't see the need to upgrade to 10.

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Windows 10 broke FS9, or at least it removed the ability to start it the official way. Same for any other legacy game that relies on verifying a CD is legal.

 

What stops me upgrading is the fact that Microsoft are ditching backwards compatibility and who knows what else will cease to work with future updates. I accept that's a pesimistic way of looking at things, but I'm very happy with Windows 7 and simply don't see the need to upgrade to 10.

Windows10 didn't break anything.  Did you try using the compatibility mode?  I am sure a solution is out there.  The same goes for everything else.  I hate to say it but if Microsoft's projected path is to ensure every machine is running 10, you may be out of luck enjoying your legacy content.

 

-Jim

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Sorry to repeat my question, but to the posters above who had no problems, did you install as an upgrade,without reinstalling everything, or did you do a clean install?  Also, did you find that switching to WIn10 improved your FSX or FSX-SE experience in any way?

 

Andrew Jones

 

I made a completely new installation.

But in my case it was because I bought a new PC and Win 10. So I cannot give you a fair comparison.

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Windows10 didn't break anything. Did you try using the compatibility mode? I am sure a solution is out there. The same goes for everything else. I hate to say it but if Microsoft's projected path is to ensure every machine is running 10, you may be out of luck enjoying your legacy content.

 

-Jim

In this case you are wrong Jim. Windows 10 deleted the verification software FS9, and many other games, uses to validate the CD you have to insert to run it. It's nothing to do with compatibility mode.

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In this case you are wrong Jim. Windows 10 deleted the verification software FS9, and many other games, uses to validate the CD you have to insert to run it. It's nothing to do with compatibility mode.

I don't know, i find it hard to believe, unless you take into account that Microsoft is evolving with the times.  CD based games are on their way out.  Why would someone want to run such old sims when there are better ones that have come out more recently?

 

-Jim

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I don't know, i find it hard to believe, unless you take into account that Microsoft is evolving with the times. CD based games are on their way out. Why would someone want to run such old sims when there are better ones that have come out more recently?

 

-Jim

Hard to believe or not but it's true. And many people choose to run old games because they prefer them. Everybody thought music on vinyl had had its day but now it's making a comeback.

 

The point is games and addons use OS facilities. If those facilities get changed or withdrawn the game is broken until patched in some way. So OS updates can break games and addons.

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