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In search for a complex aircraft

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Dear All,

 

my request might sound a bit weird, but please take some time to skim through it. :)

 

Basically, I am looking for a complex aircraft to fly. I have flown the following types extensively. I put my remarks next to each one, feel free to comment on them
 

  • RealAir Duke - superb aircraft, graphics are perfect FPS is great. I dont like the disappearing mouse and the fact the there is only one, non-dimmable cockpit light, ie. dials cannot be lit separately. No system failures, so it is not so good in this respect.
  • RealAir Duke Turbine - same as above, and it has system failures, good FPS,
  • Razbam Metroliner - it would be a cool thing to ride but there are some serious issues, eg. invisible cockpit light switches on the bottom of the central pedestal, no system failures, and very forgiving engines, practically you can ram the throttle and nothing happens, good FPS,
  • PMDG MD-11 - one of the best, excellent flight experience, good FPS, sloppy cockpit graphic resolution, but systemwise a perfect and very enjoyable plane
  • PMDG JS41 - one of the best birds, complex, good FPS, it has the feel i guess. i cannot really recall any negative point, maybe the lack of FMS/FMC. I know Honeywell.. Landing lights are only default FSX though.
  • AS Airbus 318/319 - good eye candy planes but systemwise not as deep and complex as the MD-11. Mediocre FPS at add-on aerodromes.
  • A2A C-172 - very good, impeccable but slow, good FPS,
  • Sibwings An2 - one of the best. Excellent dynamics, splendid cockipt, failures are modelled. Cokpit lights rule as well. Regrettably, the plane is very slow, and has no autopilot, good FPS,
  • Tu154 - my favourite aircraft, logged neary 300 hrs in it. Complex and all, however, graphic-wise not so good, not an eye-candy from the outside, good FPS,
  • Carenado planes - toys for kids, all are the same, i have BE200, C340 and C210. All behave like a default Cessna.

So I am thinking about buying Majestic Q400, it would be a fabulous addition to my hangar. Do you think that plane's cockpit has the "feel" the "atmosphere"? I very often find myself embedded in the cockpit as it just transits me to a different dimension, you know :) How about the Q400? I am looking for an aircraft that cruises around 300kts, and you need to "attend to it", need to be careful with your moves etc.

 

I dont like Boeings.

 

So, please let me know your thoughts on the above.

 

Thanks

 

Csaba

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I'd recommend the iFly 747. I just purchased it recently and its stunningly accurate and complex. Was my first iFly aircraft after being impatient waiting for the other 747. Doubt I'd change now it's so good.

 

The Concorde Sounds good too.

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Four good choices.

 

PMDG 777

PMDG 737NGX

Majestic Q400

FSX Concorde

 

Or wait for the PMDG 747v2

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Four good choices.

 

PMDG 777

PMDG 737NGX

Majestic Q400

FSX Concorde

 

Or wait for the PMDG 747v2

 

He said he didn't like Boeings. :wink:

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He said he didn't like Boeings. :wink:

Ops, didn't see that part.

 

Guess the Q400 or Concorde would be the way to go.

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Fully recommend the Majestic Q400 - more specifically the newly released PRO version. Heads up guidance system, working circuit breakers, 2D panel + 3D cockpit... etc. Full-on study sim. 

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SimCheck Airbus A300.

Steam gauges, INS, other systems, although not as eye candy as Airsoft Airbuses.

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Q400 pro is nothing short of stunning. It makes you work, systems all there, weird but accurate FMC, good fps, HUD, failures, shared cockpit, external flight dynamics. And the VC is one of the best.

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Q400. The BEST. 

Everything good said above. I don't know that you need the Pro version unless you specifically want the extra features it includes. I didn't so the $50 version was fine for me. 

 

Did I mention... THE BEST? 

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Hi All

 

Thanks for your input. One of you mentioned SimCheck A300? Whats your take on that plane? Is it a thing of the past in terms of graphics etc?

 

Regards

 

Csaba

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I just got the RealAir Legacy V2.  It is a great plane.  It is fast, somewhat aerobatic, has all sorts of options and is one you have to manage the landings as it doesn't want to slow down like other planes.

 

Tom

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The Majestic Q400 is, in my opinion, the best aircraft simulation available for FSX.

 

It has everything you're looking for and is unbelievably frame rate friendly for a simulation of its depth.  It will keep you busy from pushback to shutdown and you can cruise at altitudes where you can enjoy the scenery.  

 

If you haven't already, check out Marshall Arbitman's Youtube channel.  He's currently doing an around-the-world flight in the Q400.  In addition to knowing his way around the aircraft, he does a top-notch job of producing entertaining and informative videos.

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The Majestic q400 PRO for superb graphics, high FPS and system fidelity (you can even pop the breakers which I have done on occasion). In its class (twin prop or jet) it blows everything else out of the water, PMDG included (and PMDG aircraft are excellent, I own them all). I have never tired of it.

 

The FSlabs Concorde for steam gauge era complexity and system fidelity (graphics are a bit dated).  Seasoned pilots who qualified for training spent months mastering this baby, and you will too.  Nothing compares to the thrill of flying at 60,000 feet,  Mach 2.2 once you have learned how to handle this very complex, demanding aircraft.

 

Lon Duncombe 

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I'd also vouch for the Majestic Q400 PRO. Like Lon said above, I too think it is the best simulation aircraft currently offered and if you have a friend that likes to fly high fidelity aircraft then the PRO version offers shared cockpit (including a 3rd observer/friend to join you as well through their own outstanding connection module) making your time in the sim even more immersive.

Another advantage to the Q400 is the Airline2Sim video subscription that gives you an insight from a real Q400 F/Os perspective and the episodic format ensures you can jump into a specific phase of the flight instantly without having to go through extensive manuals making your ground school time even shorter.

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Concorde is complex as all get out. So complex I don't really even enjoy it that much. You spend more time pushing buttons then flying! :D

 

Don't let that deter you though, it's a fabulous aircraft and very well done, just not for everyone. :D

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Maddog

Coolsky DC-9

MQ400 Pro

SimCheck Airbus A300

FsLab ConcordeX

A2A some are very fast

 

Realair : except the Duke Turbine, the others have not engine failures. It's shame, I though that after the excellent Duke Turbine the new Legacy would have possible engine failures. Unfortunately no (one step ahead, one step behind in this regard and in my opinion). If this is the same with the new futur Duke, it will be a no go for me.

 

Regards,

 

Richard Portier

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