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Hello,

 

Please forgive me if this has been covered somewhere and I have missed it. I currenty have Prepar3d and would like to shift to Xplane. However, before I do. I would like to know if anyone knows if PMDG plan to make their 777 available for Xplane?

 

Thank you

 

Paul

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Yes, someone knows. :P

 

You are welcome!

 

Jan

 

PS: But I doubt he is reading this forum or would answer your question at this time...

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You already have a sophisticated 737-300 available for X-Plane 10 : iXEG 737 Classic...

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You already have a sophisticated 737-300 available for X-Plane 10 : iXEG 737 Classic...

He's asking about a 777 not a 737. There is though also the Flight Factor 777.

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I would like to know if anyone knows if PMDG plan to make their 777 available for Xplane?

 

If they ever do, it will be a long while before we see it.

 

Like previously stated, IXEG offers a study level aircraft 737-300 which is phenomenal. There are others of course like the Flight Factor 777 but I don't own it and so I can't comment.

 

If you ever decide to shift, we are here to help with the transition.

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I quoted Mister RR on another thread saying that the plan is to progressively port the airliners to X-Plane.

 

However, think that, first there's the DC-6, then there's the 747... I don't know how much they work "in parallel" or "in series" but I wouldn't expect a PMDG airliner for X-Plane for at least a couple years...

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From my personal experience none of the FlightFactor offerings are comparable to PMDG products.

The one and only study-sim jetliner available for X-Plane at this time is the previously mentioned IXEG 737-300.

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From my personal experience none of the FlightFactor offerings are comparable to PMDG products.

 

If you think about it, there aren't any offerings for FSX\P3D that compare with PMDG.

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From my personal experience none of the FlightFactor offerings are comparable to PMDG products.

The one and only study-sim jetliner available for X-Plane at this time is the previously mentioned IXEG 737-300.

I don't know at this point how people can continue to say this, with basic systems that any other complex system aircraft addons has are missing, like Holds, TCAS, even final destination Estimated Fuel on Board calculations in the FMC. I'm sure they'll get there, in a future release,  but they are not there yet.

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If they ever do, it will be a long while before we see it.

 

Like previously stated, IXEG offers a study level aircraft 737-300 which is phenomenal. There are others of course like the Flight Factor 777 but I don't own it and so I can't comment.

 

If you ever decide to shift, we are here to help with the transition.

IXEG is still pretty far behind pmdg imo, they released an unfinished product and everytime there is a problem with a system not working as it should they say they haven't fully modeled it yet.  The fmc is missing holds, fuel prediction, descent winds forecast, rte data, vnav is useless, flch doesnt work right, the autobrake, egt gauges and many other engine parameters are still based on the default xplane model and as a  result display very inaccurate values.  Not even close to a pmdg product.  Unfortunately I fell for the hype and bought this product, hoping they fix it someday.

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I don't know at this point how people can continue to say this, with basic systems that any other complex system aircraft addons has are missing, like Holds, TCAS, even final destination Estimated Fuel on Board calculations in the FMC. I'm sure they'll get there, in a future release,  but they are not there yet.

Fully agree. Never said IXEG = PMDG. It is just the best you can get for X-Plane right now by far, and in my opinion has a great potential to become even better.

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IXEG is still pretty far behind pmdg imo

 

Sure, pretty far behind in relation to the years PDGM has been in the market (2004) I think...do the math...come on, its IXEG first release. I purchased one of PMDG's first release (B1900c) and with all honesty not being bias here, I think IXEG has done an outstanding job compared.  

 

I can only imagine what IXEG will be able to accomplish and produce 10 years from now.

 

By the way, did you purchase any of PMDG's first products by any chance?

 

Why people keep comparing apples and oranges, instead give these guys  the credit they deserve.

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Sure, pretty far behind in relation to the years PDGM has been in the market (2004) I think...do the math...come on, its IXEG first release. I purchased one of PMDG's first release (B1900c) and with all honesty not being bias here, I think IXEG has done an outstanding job compared.  

 

I can only imagine what IXEG will be able to accomplish and produce 10 years from now.

 

By the way, did you purchase any of PMDG's first products by any chance?

 

Why people keep comparing apples and oranges, instead give these guys  the credit they deserve.

I did purchase pmdg's products, back when addons were $24.99.  This was also in the fs9 days, before we even had the leveld 767, which really set the bar for high end simulation.  IXEG charge $74.99 for their unfinished 737, and its 2016.  You compare pc software with the time period, not whether or not it is their first release.  Flight simulation has come a long way since pmdg's b1900, or first 737, and when they released those they were state of the art.  Im not saying pmdg is perfect, its a real shame they did not get the 737 vc dimensions correct, and ixeg is far superior in this regard.  But to pass off the ixeg 737 as a true "study sim" is incorrect at this point.  Instead of me giving them "credit" for an unfinished product, maybe they should credit the $74.99 back to my wallet.        

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lol...right!

 

Read this before you ask for credit

 

http://forums.x-pilot.com/forums/topic/8526-things-that-are-not-going-to-be-in-v10/

Do you work for IXEG?  But yeah, I wish I read that before I bought it, based on the videos of the product and what everyone was playing it up to be I expected certain things.  And even though that list is pretty long, there is alot more thats not on that list that is not included or simulated accurately.

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Do you work for IXEG?

 

Nope, I don't, and  I wish I did, they're an amazing group just like PMDG, LES, JRollon and a bunch of others are too.

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If you think about it, there aren't any offerings for FSX\P3D that compare with PMDG.

 

Except the Majestic Dash 8 Q400...

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If you think about it, there aren't any offerings for FSX\P3D that compare with PMDG.

 

 

And the VRS Superbug.  Might not be an airliner, but it's as deep of a 1:1 study sim as I'll ever care to learn. :smile:

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But to pass off the ixeg 737 as a true "study sim" is incorrect at this point.

 

I don't agree.

 

"Study sim" and "100% complete" are very different things.

 

The 733 is a study sim in nature. That some FMC functions are missing, doesn't prevent it from being so.

 

(I'm not too keen of the expression "study sim" anyway, because it tends to imply that for some you need to study and for other you don't, while this is not a black or white thing)

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Study Sim = A Simulator where you can simulate being studying for something, like Statistics Inference to teach my daughter.... :-/

 

I need a study sim, to interleave with my flightsim activities, maybe 80% of the time :-) Puleeeze!

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Ok I'm gonna steer this thread back to the right direction - 

 

From what I've been reading in these forums - YES - PMDG has said in previous announcements that there will be 3 products from FSX/P3D that they plan to port over to X-Plane:

 

1. PMDG 737NGX

2. PMDG 777-200LR/F, PMDG 777-300ER

3. PMDG 747-400 v3

 

To answer your question - yes, the PMDG 777 will eventually make its way to X-Plane. 

 

In no particular order. None of the legacy products will be ported over. So no MD-11 for example. 

 

PMDG, if the info is incorrect in some form or there has been some changes, please let me know and I'll correct my post. Thank you! 

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Well, well … It was clear that this kind of discussions would arise. Always, when a really good aircraft is published, comments come up “Yes … but PMDG …”, no more discussions are possible and the Holy Grail is safe again. I guess, PMDG didn’t release a list of not (yet?) implemented features by purpose, because customers may think “Oh my god, this is an unfinished aircraft”. And there are always people who are saying, “The last percent is missing, this aircraft is rubbish, dump it”. The 99% seem to be worth nothing. These people watch on this missing 1% like a rabbit confronted to a snake and aren’t able to enjoy the 99% (or they simply want to provoke).

If IXEG had released a list of the features which are implemented (it would have been endless and the aircraft would have been released 6 months later), people probably would fall over oneself, and the majority wouldn’t even notice the missing things.

 

By the way, the FMS is NOT the most important part of an aircraft, it is like a sat nav in your car to EASE your life. If you want to be really challenged, try to imagine that some features of the FMS failed and yourself has to do the work, or even better: completely use the FMS between your ears.

 

Finally, please let’s stop these senseless discussions, they don’t lead to anything and back to topic (as Lashrathius said).

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By the way, the FMS is NOT the most important part of an aircraft, it is like a sat nav in your car to EASE your life

 

Amen to that!

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flch doesnt work right, the autobrake, egt gauges and many other engine parameters are still based on the default xplane model and as a  result display very inaccurate values.  

 

All of these claims are wrong!

 

- FLCH does work just like the real one and we have not had one single complaint on it by the loads of 737 real pilots that have tried it for over 1000 hrs of block time.

- Autobrake, which I personally gave Austin the documentation on is 737 values.

- We have a 100% custom engine model which is most likely the most accurate jet-model ever made in ANY sim in terms of thrust and drag at all altitudes, mach and temperatures.

 

The FMC is still missing a few functions as we stated long before release, but will be implemented.  And yes, we had our share of bugs - like everyone else.

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