Hi Folks,

 

While both Milviz models are visual works of art - I prefer the C310 - I can't get the B55/E55 to fly by the numbers on approach... If you do - it has a substantial and unrealistic pitch up - if you fly the correct sight picture - you are dropping like a rock... Granted - if you fly at faster speeds than book values on approach - eventually it will pitch down... I've tweaked my own copy which was a great deal of work and it's still a work in progress... The C310 seems to have the better flight model out of the box and it's an all time favorite for both VFR and IFR flights... (for the record - I'm a Beech guy)

 

Regards,

Scott

My go to is the Milviz B55/E55...but when the RealAir Piston Duke comes out that will return to the top of my go to list, nothing beats the engine sounds on that aircraft in my view!

...but when the RealAir Piston Duke comes out that will return to the top of my go to list, nothing beats the engine sounds on that aircraft in my view!

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While both Milviz models are visual works of art - I prefer the C310 - I can't get the B55/E55 to fly by the numbers on approach... If you do - it has a substantial and unrealistic pitch up

I've had the exact same experience... glad it's not just me.

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The Real Air piston Duke works well in P3Dv3.  Everything works with some tweaking...

Edited May 28, 201610 yr by Mikelab6

The Real Air piston Duke works well in P3Dv3.  Everything works with some tweaking...

Yes, but is there a way to integrate the GTN750?

The Realair Piston Duke is a fine sim all around; excellent VC and among the highest fidelity flight models you'll ever encounter.     The Realair Turbine Duke by contrast suffers from far too much unrealistic engine spool up/down lag in my personal opinion and I just can't enjoy it.  

 

The Milviz 310 may very well have the finest asymmetrical thrust modeling available for any desktop sim platform, should you ever wish for this kind of depth (single engine flight modeling on a twin engine aircraft).     I'm critical of Milviz's current development and support culture with their newer products, but the 310 was truly part of the old school, high quality consciousness that used to be in place at the company and you can't go wrong choosing this product.     

 

A surprising contender too is the BN-2 Islander twin piston from Flight One.    Although it's no speed demon and has only limited single engine performance at best, it's a very versatile aircraft in both real-life and the sim.     It's essentially a STOL twin engine bush plane that can go just about anywhere imaginable, paved or unpaved.     Definitely check it out too.   

 

Carenado's new Commander Shrike has won a lot of favor among hardcore simmers since it's recent release, so do some research on it as well.     Carenado doesn't always initially release the most all around polished add-on aircraft, but the Shrike surprised many in the simming community with the flight model this time around.

The Realair Turbine Duke by contrast suffers from far too much unrealistic engine spool up/down lag in my personal opinion and I just can't enjoy it.

 

Rob at RealAir has always said the turboprop model in FSX/P3D is badly broken and he's done his best to work around it.  That said, the engines behaved differently in the older v1 Turbine Duke.  At least in terms of Ng they seemed to spool faster.  I can fly it well by Ng but not by torque.  v2 is harder to manage than v1.  This is just my observation as someone who has no knowledge of how a RW turboprop performs.  I simply try to fly the plane in front of me as well as I can.

 

 

 

Carenado doesn't always initially release the most all around polished add-on aircraft, but the Shrike surprised many in the simming community with the flight model this time around.

 

There are Carenado haters out there (and I am often amazed with how little effort they put into systems...even simple things like transponders) but, Bernt Stolle's flight models rarely miss and are often amazing.  For a fair comparison, I'd be curious how the turbine engines work in the F406 compared to the TDuke.  In terms of piston twins, I have to admit that I haven't gotten inspired much (and I have most of them).  Either they're loaded up with buggy, frame-robbing glass cockpits or it's something else.  The Piston Duke is top of my list in terms of total package, though, I'd like to get something else like a C421.  Problem is, nobody makes them any more other than Carenado and I just don't want buggy equipment.

I'm compelled to make an addendum to my earlier post in this thread.      After experiencing some very negative interaction with Milviz recently, I would personally warn anyone to stay away from ALL of their products, old or new.      I do not trust the people behind Milviz; I repeatedly encounter both questionable and downright vindictive business practices from them.     I can assure you that many others share this opinion.   

 

 

A surprising contender too is the BN-2 Islander twin piston from Flight One.   

However, the KLN 90A  FMC doesn't work in P3D :(

 

Peter

I'm compelled to make an addendum to my earlier post in this thread. After experiencing some very negative interaction with Milviz recently, I would personally warn anyone to stay away from ALL of their products, old or new. I do not trust the people behind Milviz; I repeatedly encounter both questionable and downright vindictive business practices from them. I can assure you that many others share this opinion.

Why should any user of these forums accept that your accusations have any shred of truth, when you offer no specifics or details? I have no relationship to Milviz, other than being a satisfied customer. The only vindictive and questionable behavior I see, is that which you are engaging in.

Yes, but is there a way to integrate the GTN750?

 

Sorry, can't help you with this one as I don't use the GTN750... 

 

Mike