September 1, 20169 yr My son just landed an empty 777F at 7N1 and used less than half of the 3269 ft runway. Is this realistic? If you want to try it you'll have to get the freeware 7N1 by Jim Cook from the library. Here's a picture of it, he touched down right at the beginning of the threshold. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=9vglsy&s=9#.V8eb7a0S2M8 FSX: PMDG 744/MD11/JS41/736/737/738/739, CS752/753/763/C130, SimCheck A300, Leonardo MD82, MJC DH8D, Aerosoft CRJ7/CRJ9/A318/A319/A320/A321, RAZBAM Metroliner, ORBX Global, FlyTampa KBUF/OMDB/TNCM/VHHX, ActiveSky Next DCS: A-10C II/F-16C/AH-64D/F-15E/KA-50 III/Mi-24/Persian Gulf/Syria/F-15C XP11: FF 752/753, iniBuilds A306, HotStart TBM900 MSFS: Fenix A320, FS2Crew Fenix A320, FS2Crew Pushback Express, PMDG B77W, ActiveSky FS, Drzewiecki Design UUEE
September 1, 20169 yr Moderator If you want a challenge try flying the left handed pattern and landing on 02R at Santos Dumont in Rio de Janeiro. It's 4341 feet long so you'll get a 1000 more than 7N1 but even light it's tough. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
September 1, 20169 yr My son just landed an empty 777F at 7N1 and used less than half of the 3269 ft runway How would you take it off again? Or wouuld you just taxi to the junk yard? :smile: Gary, CIMEL, retired FAA Controller & all around good guy!
September 1, 20169 yr My son just landed an empty 777F at 7N1 and used less than half of the 3269 ft runway. Is this realistic? If you want to try it you'll have to get the freeware 7N1 by Jim Cook from the library. Here's a picture of it, he touched down right at the beginning of the threshold. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=9vglsy&s=9#.V8eb7a0S2M8 Have a look in the FCOM 1 from page 447/1210 Section 32 but i would guess around 17-1900m Michael Moe Michael Moe
September 1, 20169 yr Commercial Member My son just landed an empty 777F at 7N1 and used less than half of the 3269 ft runway. I used to drive by that airport all the time on the way up to Canandaigua and Rochester. Nice. Is this realistic? It's probably a tiny bit on the short side, since FSX's ground contact model is pretty unrealistic itself, but we've tried to work around this to the best of our ability. Kyle Rodgers
September 1, 20169 yr The thing is the figures in the FCOM include safety margins which are applied to landing and takeoff distances, so they don't provide an accurate minimum. So it's possible you could manage a landing in a surprisingly short distance. It wouldn't be safe to try it in normal circumstances. However there have been instances of large aircraft being flown into very small airfields to be housed in a museum.
September 1, 20169 yr Very interesting :smile: I see also that at a maximum landing weight of a B777-300ER at 251,290 kg, on a flaps 30, no wind, dry runway, autobrake Max, the stopping distance is 1400'. On a poor reported braking action runway, this then extends to 3260'. WoW :excl: No chance of taking off again, then. Cheers, Richard Intel Core i7-7700K @ 4.2 GHz, 16 GB memory, 1 TB SSD, GTX 1080 Ti, 28" 4K display Win10-64, P3Dv5, PMDG 748 & 777, Milviz KA350i, ASP3D, vPilot, Navigraph, PFPX, ChasePlane, Orbx
September 1, 20169 yr A tiny bit on the short side?? :blink: How on Earth do you get a 777 to stop in 1500 feet? Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
September 1, 20169 yr Commercial Member A tiny bit on the short side?? :blink: How on Earth do you get a 777 to stop in 1500 feet? With 12 really effective brakes under wings with a method to spoil lift. Not sure how this is so shocking. Have a look at the perf charts for many aircraft out there. A lot of them can stop very quickly, but it's neither friendly to passengers, nor the aircraft. Kyle Rodgers
September 1, 20169 yr Well, it's shocking to me!! I thought it was an achievement to get my Flight1 Cessna Citation Mustang in and out of airfields with asphalt runways only 2000 feet long, so clearly I am clueless when it comes to the braking performance of large airliners :smile: Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
September 1, 20169 yr Persoanlly, I prefer longer rollouts when landing the 737NGX Thought this thread was about the 777 I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
September 1, 20169 yr I used to drive by that airport all the time on the way up to Canandaigua and Rochester. Nice 7N1 is almost literally in my backyard! I do avionics work for all of the tenant aircraft there. If someone DID manage to land a 777, I'm sure airport owner Joe Costa would be impressed. Only problem is that his Jet-A tank is only holds 500 gallons, (mainly used for servicing the occasional turbine helicopter who may stop in now and then), so getting refueled might be a problem!😀 Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
September 1, 20169 yr Thought this thread was about the 777 Is it a criminal offence to mention another aircraft in a 777 thread? :huh: Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
September 1, 20169 yr Commercial Member 7N1 is almost literally in my backyard! I do avionics work for all of the tenant aircraft there. If someone DID manage to land a 777, I'm sure airport owner Joe Costa would be impressed. Nice. It's on my bucket list of places to drop into. I flew over it one dark (and distantly stormy - storms over Lake Ontario) night 9 years ago (as of Sunday, actually) on the way up to PEO. That little 152 had a basic six pack, 2 VOR gauges, radios, and that's it. Compared to the flying I've been doing since then, it's been pretty stupid easy with all these newfangled gadgets. I felt like I was cheating when I was flying my commercial certificate long cross country. Back when it was VORs and NDBs only (<grandpa voice>like when I was flying that Spamcan 152...</grandpa voice>), I was actually working the whole flight on a longer cross country. On my commercial cross country, I actually hit up ATC just to have something to do, since the rest was taken care of by the G1000. To be honest, I would've preferred challenging myself with just steam gauges and no GPS, but the DA40 was a little more cost effective to use for the trip. Is it a criminal offence to mention another aircraft in a 777 thread? :huh: Yes. It's against 14 CFR 91.28. (For those of you who don't get it. FAR 91.28 does not exist, and I'm joking.) Kyle Rodgers
September 1, 20169 yr However there have been instances of large aircraft being flown into very small airfields to be housed in a museum. Something like this you mean? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmakSwlYLs0 Super VC10 into LOWI with PF3 at a cinema near you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298UDyNmgUA
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