October 15, 20169 yr A fare comparison of both sims during the day: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, RTX 4080S, Ram - 32GB, 32" 4K Monitor, WIN 11. Eric Escobar
October 15, 20169 yr Tough choice as of now with X-Plane10, but I think X-Plane 11 will definitely look better visually than P3D. Intel i-9 13900KF @ 6.0 Ghz, MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X 24GB, MSI MAG CORELIQUID C360, MSI Z790 A-PRO WIFI, MSI MPG A1000G 1000W, G.SKILL 48Gb@76000 MHz DDR5, MSI SPATIUM M480 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 2TB, Windows 11 Pro Ghost Spectre x64 “We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the day and night to visit violence on those who would do us harm”.
October 16, 20169 yr Tough choice as of now with X-Plane10, but I think X-Plane 11 will definitely look better visually than P3D. I agree. Some people have expressed disappointment at LRs focus on visuals for 11 (at least 11.0) but I think it's a smart move if they aim to become the main FS platform in the coming years. People like eye candy. 4790K @4.9GHz, 32GB DDR3, 1080Ti, W10-64bit
October 16, 20169 yr That's assuming X-Plane will develop while Prepar3d will stagnate. Which assumption I don't share. Kind regards, Michael Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel / LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440 / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11
October 16, 20169 yr As this is an X-Plane forum and I use X-Plane I would say X-Plane. If this was a P3D forum and I used P3D I would say P3D. If this was a neutral general flight-sim forum I would say X-Plane
October 16, 20169 yr As always, the X-Plane demo is downloadable for testing and evaluation. Coming from a P3D and X-plane user, the cost of X-Plane is cheaper and a lot of addon airports are either lower priced than their P3D counterparts, or free! Jude BradleyBeech Baron: Uh, Tower, verify you want me to taxi in front of the 747?ATC: Yeah, it's OK. He's not hungry. X-Plane 12 and MSFS2020 🙂 System specs: Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 20.04 i7-13700KF Gigabyte Z790 RTX-4060-Ti , 32GB RAM 1X 2TB M2 for X-Plane 12, 1x256GB SSD for OS. 1TB drive MSFS2020
October 16, 20169 yr Both? or is that not allowed P3D looked oddly washed out in that video, but from a visual point of view they both have their strengths and weaknesses. I'm playing with the 10.50 demo again, and will likely get XP11 when it comes out. Running 10.50 with RTH gets me some lovely looking visuals, but it is some way off my P3Dv3.4 at this point. Clouds, water and trees all look quite poor in the 10.50 demo, but obviously some of these things can be improved with the right add-ons. I'm very interested to see what the new lighting technique (PBR) will bring to v11.
October 16, 20169 yr I'm playing with the 10.50 demo again, and will likely get XP11 when it comes out. Running 10.50 with RTH gets me some lovely looking visuals, but it is some way off my P3Dv3.4 at this point. Clouds, water and trees all look quite poor in the 10.50 demo, but obviously some of these things can be improved with the right add-ons. I'm very interested to see what the new lighting technique (PBR) will bring to v11. Hi Novation! I like a lot your atmospheric screenshots of P3D. Don't want to derail the thread, but if you want, you can try my tweaks for X-Plane 10 that should improve both atmosphere and cloud rendering. Still work in progress though (especially the clouds). Here's the file: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=13688961621026576590 You just have to extract the archive inside your main X-Plane folder (if it's done correctly, it should ask you to overwrite/merge several default files and folders). It requires FlyWithLua to work, but I assume you've already installed it since you're using RTH. You also have to disable RTH to avoid conflicts between the two scripts. Of course, running the X-Plane installer will allow you to restore back all default files. Here are a couple of screenshots, left is default, right is tweaked with my script: "Society has become so fake that the truth actually bothers people".
October 16, 20169 yr Tough choice as of now with X-Plane10, but I think X-Plane 11 will definitely look better visually than P3D. Irrelevant to me if P3D continues to simulate the commerical airline environment better than xplane does or can in future.
October 16, 20169 yr Fortunately, the world and community of flight simulation is much, much more than just the IFR tubeliners ops. "Society has become so fake that the truth actually bothers people".
October 16, 20169 yr Moderator One thing to point out in that video is that X-Plane is using free addons (MisterX San Francisco) for the scenery, whereas P3D is using Payware (ORBX). That being said, to also be fair, the video should have been clearer that once you fly out of the area of San Francisco it changes to the default scenery, which the payware ORBX beats hands down. That's assuming X-Plane will develop while Prepar3d will stagnate. Which assumption I don't share. I don't think either sim can stay as the "replacement for FSX" for much longer. Unfortunately LR could have chosen to go for the FSX crowd when Microsoft cancelled, but they didn't (and also didn't try when Flight was also a failure). DTG's Flight Sim will supposedly be a direct replacement for FSX and not for the professional market (i.e. professional prices for addons) and will likely have ORBX behind them. I guess P3D will gradually fade out into a small niche unless DTG get it horribly wrong and alienate third-party devs or users. As for X-Plane, this one will forever remain a mystery, but I think it will continue as is with a slowly increasing share of users and increasingly better payware products.
October 16, 20169 yr Don't want to derail the thread, but if you want, you can try my tweaks for X-Plane 10 that should improve both atmosphere and cloud rendering. Still work in progress though (especially the clouds). I will certainly give your tweaks a try, thank you. From the comparison shots what you've done looks stunning.
October 16, 20169 yr Irrelevant to me if P3D continues to simulate the commerical airline environment better than xplane does or can in future. You're saying that like LR has any choice on what developers bring to XP. 4790K @4.9GHz, 32GB DDR3, 1080Ti, W10-64bit
October 17, 20169 yr Being a huge XP 10 user but regardless of the tweaking of the sky and terrain fly in North America or Europe in the winter. Poor. This has to be some kind of priority for XP. Seasonal terrain textures. Ryzen 7 5800x, 64gb, 7900XTX 24gb
October 17, 20169 yr Not sure what to make of this thread. Each sim has its own strength and weakness. I found XP is still trying to find its place. Some loyal fans love it, lot of free stuffs and the community free contribution is rich. However, it still lacks some key features: seasons, ATC, etc. I personally found no times to maintain two sims, too much work. Not sure if P3D is the answer either, as 3rd party developers loads it down with gunks. For the purpose of real pilot "practicing" skill both fit the bills. For the casual "just for the heck" of enjoying the occasional flight, P3D wins hand down with its more complete support of weather, ATC, sophisticate 3rd party plane models and scenery. Vu Pham i7-13700K 5.2 GHz OC, 64 GB RAM, RTX5090, SSD for Sim, SSD for system. MSFS2020, XP-12, DCS
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