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What happened to Lou Betti Dreamfleet?

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I was just thinking to my self "What ever happened to Lou Betti & Dreamfleet?" I see they still have a website but they have not developed anything in more then a decade. I remember back in the days of FS2000 & FS2002 Dreamfleet was the premier go to developer for MS FlightSimulator. The PMDG of that time. Who can forget the brilliant 737-400, ATR-72 and 727 series. Did they sink due to an unprofitable business and small market that is FS?

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Lou and I spoke a few times at the RTM of FSX. He indicated then that he didn't wish to make the transition from FS9 to FSX, so he gradually phased out production..

That 737 was a jewel for the time. :wink:

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Yes the 737-400 was the first payware I ever bought. Very much ahead of its time. The 727 that followed it for FS9 I still fly regularly today.

 

The ATR is also a great aircraft, but sadly nothing to do with the Dreamfleet gang.

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From old posts on the AOPA forum, he was disgusted with FS and most folks associated with it. I haven't looked in a number of years but he used to hang out over there quite a bit.

 

DJ

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Strangely, I get regular messages from LinkedIn that 'do you know Lou Betti, CEO of Dreamfleet'. I've no FS related stuff in my LinkedIn profile or connections.

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Lou's C182 cockpit panel is what got me started on cockpits and avionics  :smile:

 

Brilliant for its time..

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For years the DF Dakota was at its own class and my personal favorite.

 

I remember also how long it takes til I accepted that the Turbo version will never arrive.

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The Archer, the Dakota... In my memory these are the A2A GA's of FS9.

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Yes the 737-400 was the first payware I ever bought. Very much ahead of its time. The 727 that followed it for FS9 I still fly regularly today.

 

The ATR is also a great aircraft, but sadly nothing to do with the Dreamfleet gang.

They most certainly did! Dreamfleet developed the ATR for Flight1. In this interview Lou mentions it.

the http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/news_pcpilot34.htm

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Strangely, I get regular messages from LinkedIn that 'do you know Lou Betti, CEO of Dreamfleet'. I've no FS related stuff in my LinkedIn profile or connections.

 

These days your browsing/calendar/phone contacts etc are all comunicating with each other. Whenever I go to my doctor's surgery, facebook via my iphone is always asking if I want to be friends with him. It can only be picking that up from registering that his phone is nearby and that his name is in my calendar.

 

 

They most certainly did! Dreamfleet developed the ATR for Flight1. In this interview Lou mentions it.

the http://www.dreamflee...s_pcpilot34.htm

 

I did not realise that. There is no mention of the Dreamfleet name on eith the F1 ATR page or the forum. So that is why the ATR is such a good sim too.

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The DF727 stands out as my favorite airplane right next to the Ready for Pushback 747 Classic in all of flight sim. it had everything the systems, atmosphere, great graphics. RFP also disappeared after the transition from FS9 to FSX.

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The only light aircraft I owned from DF was the Cessna 310

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7 Charlie Mike. Lou comped a few of his products to me back then. I should look up my FS2004 disks and revisit some of that stuff... :wink:

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The DF727 stands out as my favorite airplane right next to the Ready for Pushback 747 Classic in all of flight sim. it had everything the systems, atmosphere, great graphics. RFP also disappeared after the transition from FS9 to FSX.

That was Paul Golding's project. He was planning on revising it for FSX, but his modeler (Eric Cantu) dropped out of FS and he really didn't want to start over. Darn shame. He's still around on the Aerosoft forums from time to time.

 

DJ

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That was Paul Golding's project. He was planning on revising it for FSX, but his modeler (Eric Cantu) dropped out of FS and he really didn't want to start over. Darn shame. He's still around on the Aerosoft forums from time to time.

 

DJ

 

Paul Golding was the one that really got me in to FS back in the day of 2d panel. His 707 panel was a masterpiece. His lighting ambiance in 2d panels has still not been reproduced for VC's.

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Lou was on a full size airplane forum that I was a member of, around five + years ago, but I'm not there anymore either. I enjoyed the good old days of Dreamfleet.  Did some beta testing for those airplanes, way back then. 

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Really loved the Dreamfleet 727.  Amazing aircraft.

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Weren't you at the AOPA forums at the time of Lou Larry?

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It's a real shame DF are not around anymore. The 734 was my first pay ware product in FS2002. Such a great product. Their GA aircraft and flight dynamics were unmatched. Such polished aircraft.

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These days your browsing/calendar/phone contacts etc are all comunicating with each other. Whenever I go to my doctor's surgery, facebook via my iphone is always asking if I want to be friends with him. It can only be picking that up from registering that his phone is nearby and that his name is in my calendar.

 

 

True. But I'd not visited their website in a decade (since before LinkedIn existed, and several computers ago) and never did have his email in my address book...

Maybe through a common connection, by coincidence, who knows.

 

And preventing what you experience is one reason I won't use facebook or whatsapp (but I repeat myself, whatsapp is facebook) and keep location services on my phone turned off at all times except when strictly needed.

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Lou moved down south a few years ago, I haven't spoken to him in a while, but last time we did he was doing well, he just wanted out of the FS business

John

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Loved the Dreamfleet Archer II and logged hundreds of hours in it - my first high-end FS add-on.  And used to hang out in the Dreamfleet forums, which was a nice community.  I especially remember the retired RAF pilot - was it Peter McClelland? - who was a major contributor.

 

Lou was really cantankerous in a fun kind of way.  He used to like telling the sim pilots that they had no idea what "difficult" or "expensive" meant - try flying a real airplane!  Sort of the opposite of the A2A community, which for me at least gradually took Dreamfleet's place, and benefitted from a slightly more open dialogue between the sim world and the real world.

 

I also started losing interest around the time of the Archer III and the Dakota - they were just too new and clean and expensive.  The Archer II (modeled on Nels Anderson's?) seemed like something you could actually own and fly.

 

The last I saw of Lou was on an aviation history forum, where he was arguing what a terrible pilot Amelia Earhart was.  In other words, he was completely unchanged.  And I hope he never changes...

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Excellent aircraft, I had ordered this online,and the shop sent me the 737-NG in error, then sent me the 737-400 too.

Good times back then.

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Weren't you at the AOPA forums at the time of Lou Larry?

Yes

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