Skip to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

The AVSIM Community

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

What happened to Lou Betti Dreamfleet?

Featured Replies

That was Paul Golding's project. He was planning on revising it for FSX, but his modeler (Eric Cantu) dropped out of FS and he really didn't want to start over. Darn shame. He's still around on the Aerosoft forums from time to time.

 

DJ

 

Paul Golding was the one that really got me in to FS back in the day of 2d panel. His 707 panel was a masterpiece. His lighting ambiance in 2d panels has still not been reproduced for VC's.

MSFS Premium Deluxe Edition; Windows 11 Pro, I9-9900k; Asus Maximus XI Hero; Asus TUF RTX3080TI; 32GB G.Skill Ripjaw DDR4 3600; 2X Samsung 1TB 970EVO; NZXT Kraken X63; Seasonic Prime PX-1000, LG 48" C1 Series OLED, Honeycomb Yoke & TQ, CH Rudder Pedals, Logitech G13 Gamepad 



 

  • Replies 36
  • Views 10.5k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Lou was on a full size airplane forum that I was a member of, around five + years ago, but I'm not there anymore either. I enjoyed the good old days of Dreamfleet.  Did some beta testing for those airplanes, way back then. 

Really loved the Dreamfleet 727.  Amazing aircraft.

Mark   CYYZ      

 

Weren't you at the AOPA forums at the time of Lou Larry?

It's a real shame DF are not around anymore. The 734 was my first pay ware product in FS2002. Such a great product. Their GA aircraft and flight dynamics were unmatched. Such polished aircraft.

- Chris

Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX | Intel Core i9 13900KF | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB | 64GB DDR5 SDRAM | Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling | 1TB & 2TB Samsung Gen 4 SSD  | 1000 Watt Gold PSU |  Windows 11 Pro | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Thrustmaster TCA Captain X Airbus | Asus ROG 38" 4k IPS Monitor (PG38UQ)

Asus Maximus VII Hero motherboard | Intel i7 4790k CPU | MSI GTX 970 4 GB video card | Corsair DDR3 2133 32GB SDRAM | Corsair H50 water cooler | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD (2) | EVGA 1000 watt PSU - Retired

These days your browsing/calendar/phone contacts etc are all comunicating with each other. Whenever I go to my doctor's surgery, facebook via my iphone is always asking if I want to be friends with him. It can only be picking that up from registering that his phone is nearby and that his name is in my calendar.

 

 

True. But I'd not visited their website in a decade (since before LinkedIn existed, and several computers ago) and never did have his email in my address book...

Maybe through a common connection, by coincidence, who knows.

 

And preventing what you experience is one reason I won't use facebook or whatsapp (but I repeat myself, whatsapp is facebook) and keep location services on my phone turned off at all times except when strictly needed.

sigfile_dva.png

Lou moved down south a few years ago, I haven't spoken to him in a while, but last time we did he was doing well, he just wanted out of the FS business

John

Loved the Dreamfleet Archer II and logged hundreds of hours in it - my first high-end FS add-on.  And used to hang out in the Dreamfleet forums, which was a nice community.  I especially remember the retired RAF pilot - was it Peter McClelland? - who was a major contributor.

 

Lou was really cantankerous in a fun kind of way.  He used to like telling the sim pilots that they had no idea what "difficult" or "expensive" meant - try flying a real airplane!  Sort of the opposite of the A2A community, which for me at least gradually took Dreamfleet's place, and benefitted from a slightly more open dialogue between the sim world and the real world.

 

I also started losing interest around the time of the Archer III and the Dakota - they were just too new and clean and expensive.  The Archer II (modeled on Nels Anderson's?) seemed like something you could actually own and fly.

 

The last I saw of Lou was on an aviation history forum, where he was arguing what a terrible pilot Amelia Earhart was.  In other words, he was completely unchanged.  And I hope he never changes...


Alan Ampolsk

"Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!"
-- Saint-Exupery

Excellent aircraft, I had ordered this online,and the shop sent me the 737-NG in error, then sent me the 737-400 too.

Good times back then.

Jude Bradley
Beech Baron: Uh, Tower, verify you want me to taxi in front of the 747?
ATC: Yeah, it's OK. He's not hungry.

X-Plane 12 and MSFS2020  🙂

System specs: Windows 11  Pro 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 20.04 i7-13700KF  Gigabyte Z790 RTX-4060-Ti , 32GB RAM  1X 2TB M2 for X-Plane 12,  1x256GB SSD for OS. 1TB drive MSFS2020

Weren't you at the AOPA forums at the time of Lou Larry?

Yes

Yes

Thought so...I stopped hanging out there after our flying club began losing members big time and fuel became so expensive. :wink:

Last I heard from Lou he was living the good life in Boca Raton, Florida, and still flying the 210N.  -  Doug

Intel 10700K @ 5.1Ghz, Asus Hero Maximus motherboard, Noctua NH-U12A cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB 3200 MHz RAM, RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, 100TB of disk storage. Klaatu barada nickto.

I beta tested with DF and F1 in the early days. My fav was the DF A36 with RXP GNS 530 and the F1 Meridian. RXP did the avionics and I remember wondering how they got those Meggitt instruments so sharp and smooth!

Last I heard from Lou he was living the good life in Boca Raton, Florida, and still flying the 210N. - Doug

Yes, for a time it was thought he'd bring his 210 to FSX but we all know he dropped out of the FS world :(

My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL |
| Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |

 

 

Yup their 737 was my first payware.  Loved it.  Dreamfleet was the business in those days.


 

 


he was disgusted with FS and most folks associated with it.

 

That's a pretty sweeping statement.  Do we know why?

  • Commercial Member

The good old days eh? 

 

Lou, I hear from him now and then and yes, he retired to sunny Florida and left the FS world behind for what he felt were good reasons and which I'm not going to discuss.

 

The ATR was a Flight 1 project that Lou happened to do most of the 2d panel artwork for.

 

Thanks for those kind comments about the 727 and I'm really sorry (for me as much as anything) that an updated FSX version never came to be, as well as the never completed DC-8 that was supposed to follow.  The main reasons for this being that doing stuff like this in FSX as a "few evenings a week" hobby, simply didn't work.  For example, the new 727 VC textures were work in progress with new photo realism and higher resolution when I decided they needed to be even higher resolution.  Funnily enough though, I did have a promise from Hans Hartman 3 years ago, that when he finished the coding for the Aerosoft CRJ later that year, he would work with me on the 727....but the CRJ project has still to be finished and I have even less time for FS than I did before....not to mention that Hans' promise was made late in the evening after a beer or two!

 

I'd love to see a new 727 for FSX/P3D with high res VC, shadows and all the rest of it, but seriously doubt it'll have anything to do with the team that did the DF727....sadly.

Cheers

 

Paul Golding

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Account

Navigation

Search

Search

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.