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looking for a 737 jet for p3d that's not PMDG

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I can't afford pmdg right now and I don't think it would run well on my specs and I want to have a life.

 

I have the QW757 and I do like that a lot, but I would like a nice 737-700 or 800 I think I could a lot done with one of those.

 

Any recommendations?  I want something with a nice VC and hopefully a FMC of some sort. I don't want something where you have a default pop up gps.

 

Thanks.

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ifly 737 its not as good as the pmdg but it fits what you want to do

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If you're willing to go with earlier 737's there's the captainsim 737-200/-100 or the milviz 737-200. Milviz has an option to use an fmc.

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The iFly 737 is pretty good - and sold by Flight1 who do a 30 day money-back guarantee - so no risk.

After purchase - log into their forum, register, then carefully read the recommended install instructions, it's got some robust anti-piracy protocols within it that have caused some folk problems.

Eugene

 

 

 

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The iFly 737 is pretty good - and sold by Flight1 who do a 30 day money-back guarantee - so no risk.

After purchase - log into their forum, register, then carefully read the recommended install instructions, it's got some robust anti-piracy protocols within it that have caused some folk problems.

Eugene

what a shocker, anti piracy measures that hurt the regular user more than the pirates. 

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what a shocker, anti piracy measures that hurt the regular user more than the pirates. 

 

 

To be fair to iFly, it's the usual precautions often stated by other companies - avoid protected folders (x86), disable anti-virus for install, exclude iFly folders from the virus checker, run as Administrator, the sort of thing often ignored in the haste to install a new purchase.

I installed it without any problem as I take those precautions with most complex add-ons, but the forum regulary has new purchasers who have missing instruments, undercarriage etc, almost always caused by a licencing issue. 

Eugene

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The Milviz 737 is a wonderful aircraft to fly. Complex enough to qualify as needing good preflight planning and checks. But a wonderful hand flyer. I haven't explored the FMC much because it's so much fun to fly "old school" VOR.

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what a shocker, anti piracy measures that hurt the regular user more than the pirates.

 

And without anti-pracy measures, the regular user would have no product at all, as companies like ifly would not bother to make them.

 

So what would be your approach ?

 

I installed ifly products the same way I would any other payware licenced product. No hassle, no issues.

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well thats wrong. or at least highly debated, many of the best games don't have any DRM, and sell well because they are good. not everyone is a pirate.

 

To be honest, all this DRM doesnt stop the pirates, they just crack it and move on, the regular user is left having to jump through hoops to get the software they pay for to work. pirates copy an exe file over or whatever.

 

in my opinion, the best anti piracy is similar to what orbx is doing, having an integrated application which auto updates and keeps all your stuff together in a nice package.

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well thats wrong. or at least highly debated, many of the best games don't have any DRM, and sell well because they are good. not everyone is a pirate.

 

To be honest, all this DRM doesnt stop the pirates, they just crack it and move on, the regular user is left having to jump through hoops to get the software they pay for to work. pirates copy an exe file over or whatever.

 

in my opinion, the best anti piracy is similar to what orbx is doing, having an integrated application which auto updates and keeps all your stuff together in a nice package.

I don't like Flight1's wrapper system at all. It's confusing at best.

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yeah its rubbish

 

In what way ?

 

IMHO it's the best system out there, unlimited D/L's, unlimited installs, easy reactivation of your purchases, easy access to all your purchase details and registration details and a 30 day money back guarantee.

 

I'm really struggling to see why you would think it  "rubbish"

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because for me, its a pain, it adds things to the registry and just generally increases the time taken to actually install it. 

 

Far prefer, for example, the pmdg system

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yeah its rubbish

It's simple. I don't understand the issues people have. You save the key and you enter a password to reinstall. If your order is deactivated you simply visit their site, enter your email, and it auto reactivates your order

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just google flight1 wrapper problem, you may not have issues, some do. pirates dont. why should that be the case??

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because for me, its a pain, it adds things to the registry and just generally increases the time taken to actually install it.

 

 

 

Far prefer, for example, the pmdg system

 

Pretty much everything you install (including PMDG) adds stuff to the registry.

 

You click on the F1 wrapper icon icon, enter your details and it installs, In what way is that different to the PMDG system,

 

Oh and try to get your money back off PMDG in 30 days, good luck with that LOL.

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the regular user is left having to jump through hoops to get the software they pay for to work

 

Download the product with AV off

Install the product with AV off

Enter your licence details

Fly it.

 

How is that jumping through hoops ?

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well if you guys are happy with it, then who am i to say otherwise! personally im not. software in flight simulation is so far behind the rest of the software industry with regards to this its not even funny!

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Very few MODERN and up to date addons now do much better at almost hiding their anti-pirate measures, which is much better for us.  As for Flight1 Wrapper being bad, well that's just laughable, and therefore doesn't even need defending;-) And to compare it to PMDG is even worse. The PMDG installers not only add to the registry, it also ads a 'service' called 'Flexnet' onto your PC that is ALWAYS running.

 

Back on topic....  I would have to agree about the Milviz 737-200 - it's a fantastic addon, and NOT overly demanding of the PC.  The iFly 737 though, I'd have to disagree.  If the OP believes the PMDG would bring down his system, then so would the iFly.  In fact, I get better performance with the NGX than I did with the iFly (before I returned it and got a refund from the BRILLIANT Flight1 system;-))

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laughable, right, that's like, your opinion man, and i gave mine, so that's enough for me in this thread

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I am debating between getting the Captain Sim or the Milviz 737.  I don't want anything as complicated as the PMDG.  Any suggestions?

Thanks a lot,

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I am debating between getting the Captain Sim or the Milviz 737.  I don't want anything as complicated as the PMDG.  Any suggestions?

Thanks a lot,

I have both and, to complicate your choice, they each have their own pros and cons;-)

I'll say this though.... I get much better PC performance and less issues (if any) with the Milviz 732. They're very different aircraft, both in reality, and also in the sim.  Both are stunning in the graphics department. It 'FEELS' like the Milviz 732 has a better or more realistic flight model, but i'm no expert.  If i had to choose, it would be Milviz - just;-)

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Thank a lot.  Just 2 questions:  How do I get the engines started and how do I change liveries?

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I can recommend the iFly 737. A great model with excellent autoflight and LNAV/VNAV. Also you practically get the full range from 500 to 900s, ERs and BBJs.

It is my go to mid range jet.

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ifly from me too. Good selwcton of models and a very complete product with good system modelling. I use pmdg now but own both and if you don't want pmdg then ifly is close.

 

Chris

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