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Why the need for an active internet connection

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I'm getting enthusiastic about buying this but I am slightly deterred by the need for an active internet connection to use the software.
The flight sim club I go along to does not have any internet availability and I would love to use this product when simming there.

 

I currently use FSXSE which is happy to run in offline mode.

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Indeed I understand the connction is required to sync and save presets and settings but we should be able to use the software offline with existing saved cameras...

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Well I bit the bullet and purchased the software, and I am pleased to say I really love it.

 

I understand the reasoning behind the internet connectivity but it would be really useful to be able to also run in offline mode when you don't have an internet connection.

Perhaps some way of storing a copy of your presets on your own PC. Either uploading any changes when next online or understanding that changes would be discarded after shutdown.

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Indeed, if there is an internet issue which still happens in many countries, then the plane won't be flyable because all view controls will be disabled within the sim....

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It stinks having to be connected to the internet all the time to save presets, etc. and be exposed to internet corruption of our sim computers.  We've got enough problems keeping things running correctly as it is.  I've been very glad that I didn't need the internet except for a few authorizations until fairly recently.

 

Jeff

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Lol  makes me  laugh at  all these posts  about  being  connected to the interent  all the time, guess they don't  use  live   weather  engines  on  don't  fly online etc, wonder  how  they post online, if you don't  visit xxxx   web  sites  you got no issues  being  online.  

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Well, Pete, I'm glad I provided you with a laugh tonight.  Anyway, to answer two of your questions.....I post and browse online from a different computer and no, I don't use a live weather engine for the very reason I mentioned and never thought my need for it outweighed some of the possible hassles.  I basically consider that anytime I am connected online I am susceptible to receiving some form of trash. Even the government, large businesses, and banks get nailed and I assume they are pretty well protected and probably thought or hoped it couldn't happen to them.   Some are luckier than others.

 

BTW, "if you don't  visit xxxx   web  sites  you got no issues being online." made ME laugh.  You just keep thinking that.   Thanks.

 

Jeff

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The point is that even if you prefer to use live weather you can easily fly with weather presets if you get offline for whatever reason (server, provider, hardware - it actually happens).

But if you rely on camera definitions by chaseplane you cannot easily fly without them, not least because of the changes chaseplane makes to the cfg-file.

 

I hope the announced offline solution will come soon within the alpha phase.

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I reiterate my hopes concerning an offline presets feature for all the reasons already explained in this thread and the other which became lost in the other topics.

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I do not understand for what reason no manager takes the time to express their views on our demand about this problem.

 

This is the 2nd post on this subject, the first I opened there over a week.

6 peoples had responded to this post in mind we are offered a second option.
 

I searched the forum for 1 h .... and I can not find ANY TRACE of this post.

All this is very disturbing, it is essential to talk about this problem around us on the forums to warn future users.

No response, this is not correct from the manager.

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Lol  makes me  laugh at  all these posts  about  being  connected to the interent  all the time, guess they don't  use  live   weather  engines  on  don't  fly online etc, wonder  how  they post online, if you don't  visit xxxx   web  sites  you got no issues  being  online.  

 

What you fail to realize that we basically become totally dependant on the Internet if this trend continues. If you actually can't connect to the internet because of a sabotage, provider issues or natural disasters, what will you do then?

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All this is very disturbing, it is essential to talk about this problem around us on the forums to warn future users.

 

If it is that important to you, why did you buy ChasePlane - the need for an active internet connection has been known from the beginning and is clearly stated on the product page.

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Here

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/497232-chase-plane-now-available/page-3

 

the developer stated that there will be an offline solution (9. in post 32):

 

"We plan on having an offline solution so you wouldn't be left empty-handed in rare occasions where your computer would go offline."

 

I assume this assertion stands.

 

It's just a question of where this is on their list.

 

Btw. I am waiting for the delivery of a new modem after my previous modem broke last Thursday. No chaseplane for me since then...

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My friends,

 

Computer security was brought up, and there is never, not ever a wrong place to drop in a line or two about this subject.  Actually, I know a little about computer security. In fact, since I've been flying shared cockpit (which requires one to connect their PC to another one), and my likely being one of the most security conscience people in flight sim, we had to develop a security policy for the members (tight knit group) whom fly shared cockpit together.

 

We've been completely devoted to very high levels of immersion of realism for well over 10 years, and of course this usually means using live weather.  I realize that we have no idea what the security is of the servers which provide the weather (or weather interpolation, depending on what weather engine you use), but given the level of security and scans that we maintain it's an acceptable, it not mitigating risk.

 

Since implementing our security policy, not one member has had anything more than a tracking cookie found on their computer, and no malware.

 

It's absolutely true that your security is far better if you don't connect your computer to the Internet, however most people don't have two computers, and even those (like me) how have multiple computers we just prefer to be able to update various software by being connected to the Internet. 

 

You'll find the security guide (and the best reasons why EVERYONE who connects to the Internet should follow it) in the OVPA Shareed Cockpit Setup Guide, located on the OVPA Website or here on AVSIM in the Shared Cockpit Forum.

 

Oh... my credentials... computer engineer (high end mainframes to PCs) with extensive network / network management experience, with a large dose of technical program management.  Doesn't make me an expert in computer security, so while I was working at the Department of Defense I had our DoD Network Security Guy review our security policy - we thumbs up all the way for standard home networked PCs.

 

Finally, for the past 12 years I have done a large amount of tech support for FSX - often remotely. I have been shocked to find that the majority of people I've come across in flight sim have absolutely no computer security whatsoever. Over the past year or so we've seen multiple Shared Cockpit Pop Up Groups come into existence, and they regularly use the a method of connecting that is none to be a security risk, and they are not at all concerned about computer security - despite our guide at least being downloaded thousands of times. Boggles the mind!

 

Food for thought.

 

Best wishes to you all!

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can't connect to the internet because of a sabotage, provider issues or natural disasters, what will you do then?

 

 

If you  cant  connect  to the internet  than I wouldn't  be  reading  this, natural disasters  than  you wouldn't  be  able  to use  anything then water  electricity  etc,  provider issues    so you  saying  provider issues last  more  than  a  day   than  than  do some  thing  else  than read a book :wink:

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If you cant connect to the internet than I wouldn't be reading this

 

Now Peter,

 

Please calm down sir, you're obviously taking this way too seriously  :wink:   I mean, what in the WORLD lead you to eject both Logic and Reason into this discussion - and do both in a single post!  :Shame On You:  Certainly a step towards the end of the pier, if not over the edge.  :smile:

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The major problem with this product is your lose it if your internet goes down. Its just wrong.

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The major problem with this product is your lose it if your internet goes down. Its just wrong.

 

Doesn't  the  fsl  require to have  internet  connection  as well?  beside  how  often  does  your  internet  connection  goes  down. sure  you  can find  some thing  else   to do in the mean  time  unless  its  every  day   you lose you  connection  

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Re FSL: Neither plane requires a live internet connection every time, it's online activation, but the rest is "offline mode".

 

It's because of this "feature" why I keep ASN despite using AS16, but is there a "plan B" for ChasePlane, as well?

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Doesn't  the  fsl  require to have  internet  connection  as well?  beside  how  often  does  your  internet  connection  goes  down. sure  you  can find  some thing  else   to do in the mean  time  unless  its  every  day   you lose you  connection

The point imo is that its a camera addon, that BTW I love, but I see no reason to be online to use it. Does EZDOC need you to be? does TrackIR need you to be? I could name many more....

 

How good my internet connections is, has nothing to do with it.

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If it is that important to you, why did you buy ChasePlane - the need for an active internet connection has been known from the beginning and is clearly stated on the product page.
 

 

and  yet users  still complain even  though  what you have  stated


 

 


How good my internet connections is, has nothing to do with it.

 

 

actually  thought  it  was  since if  you your internet  connection drops  out  every  day  there  would  be  a issue

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Make this a sticky and make people aware that we need not only internet connection but your end needs to be working also, so you dont ground us all.

If you make us need a live connection, then we need you do also be live 24/7 let today be the perfect reason why this has to stop.

 

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Agreed, think an offline mode needs added similar to steam & origin, they can do online pings with their servers from time to time but say connection issue you should be able to select continue as offline - went to fly the fslabs this morning got everything all setup then chaseplane wouldn't work as the server is down....... Grounded :/

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19 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Make this a sticky and make people aware that we need not only internet connection but your end needs to be working also, so you dont ground us all.

If you make us need a live connection, then we need you do also be live 24/7 let today be the perfect reason why this has to stop.

 

one  day it  down and  you start complaining   got nothing  else  to do,  why  not just delete  chase  plane  and use ezdok

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