Jump to content

Sign in to follow this  
warbirds

Using two pc's?

Recommended Posts

I keep reading post about guys using another pc to run some flight sim programs  and have some questions:

- Why?

- What type of pc is needed for the second one? Can I just buy a 5 year old gamer or even standard pc off Craig's List to use.

- Does it need the same operating program as your main pc (win 10 or?) or can you use an older one such as win 7 or even xp on the 2nd one ?

- How to you hook this all up?(I am not network literate - or is there a Networking for Dummies book?)

- How many fps will I gain if this happens?

- Is it really worth the expense and trouble?

  • Upvote 1

Paul Grubich 2017 - Professional texture artist painting virtual aircraft I love.
Be sure to check out my aged cockpits for the A2A B-377, B-17 and Connie at Flightsim.com and Avsim library

b0814f2d5cd6c708b2ec22681b36795f.jpg

Share this post


Link to post

I cant see it saving much at all in the way of FPS unless your sim is a hung of crap.


Chris...PMDG Cultist

[P3Dv5 flier, Radar Contact, PMDG 772, MD11, 748v3, NGX, QW 787, LDS 763 and Majestic q400-8 owner]

 

Share this post


Link to post

I have read where some are using the second pc for weather software and ai software and such and saving fps. I really would like more info on this and can get a small older pc for free to try. 

  • Upvote 1

Paul Grubich 2017 - Professional texture artist painting virtual aircraft I love.
Be sure to check out my aged cockpits for the A2A B-377, B-17 and Connie at Flightsim.com and Avsim library

b0814f2d5cd6c708b2ec22681b36795f.jpg

Share this post


Link to post

Well okay.

 

I tried running ASN on a second pc and saw no improvement in FPS at all in FSX:SE.  But then my simming rig is a beast and I didnt really expect any improvement.

 

As to how, the application in question usually says how in the user guide, EG AS16 tells how.


Chris...PMDG Cultist

[P3Dv5 flier, Radar Contact, PMDG 772, MD11, 748v3, NGX, QW 787, LDS 763 and Majestic q400-8 owner]

 

Share this post


Link to post

Thanks Boomer that is the input I am looking for. 

  • Upvote 1

Paul Grubich 2017 - Professional texture artist painting virtual aircraft I love.
Be sure to check out my aged cockpits for the A2A B-377, B-17 and Connie at Flightsim.com and Avsim library

b0814f2d5cd6c708b2ec22681b36795f.jpg

Share this post


Link to post

What is nice about running a second PC is the ability so have the weather apps interface available as well as a moving map such as FSCommander, It's also nice to be able to pull up your charts and also browse the web during long flights.

If you fly online with Vatsim then having vPilot running and displaying its interface on another machine is also well worth it.

Share this post


Link to post

There's no measurable performance benefit to running secondary programs on another machine. It is mainly for convenience. Any processing time you might save (nanoseconds at most) would be given back with the network processing the connection. I find it easier to have a second monitor.

 

Vic

  • Upvote 1

 

P3D#1 - 7700K 5.0g ROG X270F 3600 15-15-15 - EVGA RTX 2080ti 1000W PSU 1- 850G EVO SSD, 2-256G OCZ SSD, 1TB,HAF942-H100 Water W1064Pro
40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160 - AS16, ASCA, GEP3D, UTX, Toposim, ORBX Regions, TrackIR
P3D#2 - 3770K 4.7g Asus Z77 1600 7-8-7 GTX1080ti DH14 850W 2-1TB WD HDD,1tb VRap, Armor+ W10 Pro 2 - HannsG 28" Monitors
 

Share this post


Link to post

Do any of the sims allow dividing the sim in 2?  1 system for the Sim Host and 1 system for the Image Generator?  I know P3D will talk on CIGI so not sure if it will allow this, maybe only on the Pro software?


- Johnathon Barfolomew Doe III

Share this post


Link to post
40 minutes ago, Glynn said:

What is nice about running a second PC is the ability so have the weather apps interface available as well as a moving map such as FSCommander, It's also nice to be able to pull up your charts and also browse the web during long flights.

Yes but a better method is to run more thna 1 monitor on the simming pc.

I run 3 monitors on my EVGA 960GTX.


Chris...PMDG Cultist

[P3Dv5 flier, Radar Contact, PMDG 772, MD11, 748v3, NGX, QW 787, LDS 763 and Majestic q400-8 owner]

 

Share this post


Link to post

Using a second monitor and accessing running apps on the same computer can deteriorate performance. always have used networked computers to run moving maps,weather apps . Never had an OOM. Flight computer ONLY runs the Sim, No network connections!

Share this post


Link to post

- Why?

Biggest benefit would be to run programs that you'd like to see while flying(vPilot, moving maps, charts, etc) as stated already.

- What type of pc is needed for the second one? Can I just buy a 5 year old gamer or even standard pc off Craig's List to use.

As long as it can run the programs you want to run, any pc will be fine.  5 year old pc would work I think.

- Does it need the same operating program as your main pc (win 10 or?) or can you use an older one such as win 7 or even xp on the 2nd one ?

No.  Does not need to be the same.  My second pc is Win10.  My flight sim pc is Win7.  Works fine.

- How to you hook this all up?(I am not network literate - or is there a Networking for Dummies book?)

Yeah, Google how to set up a simple home network.  There are a bunch of different ways to do it from just connecting the two pc's with a crossover cable to connecting to the same WiFi network and more.  But this would be a complete topic/tutorial in and of itself.

- How many fps will I gain if this happens?

Probably not much, if any.  But that all would depend I suppose.

- Is it really worth the expense and trouble?

That's up to you.  I wouldn't do it any other way.  I can't imagine having to toggle to my other apps while running flight sim.  Nor do I want to connect another monitor to my main sim and deal with that.  So for me, it is totally worth it.  Plus, I used to be a network engineer, so it was easy for me.  :)


Regards,

 

Kevin LaMal

"Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings" - Shapiro2024

Share this post


Link to post
3 minutes ago, Adrian123 said:

Using a second monitor and accessing running apps on the same computer can deteriorate performance. always have used networked computers to run moving maps,weather apps . Never had an OOM. Flight computer ONLY runs the Sim, No network connections!

I use two monitors and one not very powerful PC, and have moving maps, weather, browse the web, and never had an OOM. 


PF3 Beta Tester

Bob Cardone        P3D 3,4       FlyVirtual.net   Aivlasoft EFB2  /pf3-supporter.gif

 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post

I've been running a networked system since the early FSX days. Just to give you an idea I run the following addon programs under P3D on the Networked PC. 

AS2016

ASCA

vPilot

WideFS

Rex Textures

Rex Soft Clouds

2 VAs ACARS programs.

Not sure if it makes any difference memory wise but I like to have my sim window totally clean and much prefer not having separate windows for those addons popping up on my main P3D PC.  

 

Regards

 

 


Joaquin Blanco

Intel Core i9-9900K at 5Ghz, Corsair Hydro H100i RGB PLATINUM CPU cooler, Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E,Motherboard, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super 8GB GDDR6, G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Memory, 500GB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS M.2 PCIe,2TB Samsung 860 QVO Solid State Drive, 2TB, 2 x Samsung 860 Evo 2TB, 1 x 1TB Samsung 860 Evo, Corsair RM650x 80 PLUS Gold 650W PSU.

 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
8 minutes ago, Adrian123 said:

Never had an OOM.

OOM would not be something to be concerned with in this scenario.  FSX/P3D will have a ~4G limit no matter what other applications are running on your flight sim pc.  "External" apps to the sim do not count towards that limit of the flight sim application itself.


Regards,

 

Kevin LaMal

"Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings" - Shapiro2024

Share this post


Link to post

If you have a fast pc and not many addons that are cpu intensive in usage then you can try with 1 pc.

Otherwise an extra pc is the way to go.

eg : no jittering when AS is downloading weather updates while flying

And network processing time is way less taxing on a pc than downloading/calculating a weather program...


Gerard

7940x ( 14 cores ) : 8 cores @ 4.8 - 6 cores @ 4.0 Ghz - Gigabyte X299 Gaming 7 - 32 Gb G.Skill Trident Z 3200Mhz Cl 14 - Gigabyte GTX 2080 TI Windforce OC @1920 Mhz - 1x SSD M2 1800/1800 2TB - 2x  Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Thermaltake Level 10 GT case - EKWB Extreme 240 liquid cooling set push/pull - 2x 43” Sony 4K tv's in NVSurround

8700K : all 6 cores @ 5.0 GHz - Asus ROG 370 - 16 Gb 4000 MHz @ 3600 Mhz - Gigabyte GTX 2080 Windforce OC @ 1900 Mhz - 1x SSD M2 1800/1800 2TB - 2x  Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - 1x 55” Sony 4K tv

My flightsim vids :  https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0

 

Share this post


Link to post

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
  • Tom Allensworth,
    Founder of AVSIM Online


  • Flight Simulation's Premier Resource!

    AVSIM is a free service to the flight simulation community. AVSIM is staffed completely by volunteers and all funds donated to AVSIM go directly back to supporting the community. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. Thank you for your support!

    Click here for more information and to see all donations year to date.
  • Donation Goals

    AVSIM's 2020 Fundraising Goal

    Donate to our annual general fundraising goal. This donation keeps our doors open and providing you service 24 x 7 x 365. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. We reset this goal every new year for the following year's goal.


    18%
    $4,590.00 of $25,000.00 Donate Now
×
×
  • Create New...