I decide to wait for Multi crew experience to update for V4. No more fs2crew for me, sorry but without any new features this is way to much to pay for. Anyway, his product, his choice, but also my wallet and my choice.. 

5 minutes ago, pete_auau said:

thought that  kids  complain  more,but  not  anymore

Well that is your opinoin, which I don't much care about.

19 minutes ago, carlito777 said:

You really have nothing to add other than repeatedly stating that this topic has been discussed before, do you?

Well... it has 

FS2Crew FSX/P3D NGX= $55NZD

                               777=$55NZD

                               NGX Reboot=55NZD

                                Extra Voice NGX=30NZD

                                777 Extra Voice=$30NZD

                                                      Total=$225NZD

With so called 64 bit 777 and NGX -$335.00

Lot of bread for one product, although NGX Reboot was an overhaul.

FS2Crew was and is already compiled to work in a Windows 64bit, so what exactly is compiled to make FS2 crew work ? Couple of guage files ?

1 hour ago, Anders Bermann said:

Couldn't agree more! Well said.

You always have the option of simply not purchasing it... Whining and complaining about the pricing is just pointless. Probably also why that kind of debate is restricted in most forums...

I think to be fair it should have been mentioned right at the beginning when v4 was released. Many have no choice now but to bite the bullet. 

As a pensioner there is way to much expense so will sit tight where I am. 

This simming is becoming a rich man's game 

I was looking forward to getting the Q400 and Fs2crew back up and running in v4.

i was also expecting an upgrade charge for 64 bit but not full price as a complete repurchase. 

My current inclination is to take a pass.....

1 minute ago, GHarrall said:

I was looking forward to getting the Q400 and Fs2crew back up and running in v4.

i was also expecting an upgrade charge for 64 bit but not full price as a complete repurchase. 

My current inclination is to take a pass.....

I'll pass too. I don't mind a small upgrade charge but not paying full price for the same product. Their loss.....

I've bought nearly every FS2Crew product in the last decade, including the Maddog, JS41, 767, and the original 747, as well as the more familiar PMDG, Majestic and Aerosoft offerings. I've bought the global voice packs and NGX Emergency. I have been an exceptionally reliable (and happy) FS2Crew customer for years.

Bryan, if you're listening: in my humble opinion, this pricing model is a mistake. While I may ultimately choose to buy these updated versions in the future, right now I don't intend to -- which, given my history of purchases from you, should give you serious pause. I should be your core market, the guaranteed sale. I don't expect you to work for free, and I'm not only willing but happy to support your output with my purchases. And I have. You've been a highly responsive and customer-friendly developer, and that builds loyalty. But that's exactly what strikes me here; I think, in stark contrast to the sensitive approach that I've seen you take with your users again and again on these forums, that you've seriously misread your customer base here. An upgrade price? Sure. But this is a new purchase for the same functionality, even with a $5 discount, and even taking into account the work you had to do to update the product. I'm not surprised people aren't taking that well.

I understand why you've made this pricing decision, but I'd strongly encourage you to rethink it. I fear that you're both limiting your revenue and alienating the strongly loyal customer base you've built over many years with your hard work and excellent customer service. And I want to see you succeed.

James

Well Said James, and very well put.Thank you.

3 hours ago, Travelling_Wilbury said:

With so called 64 bit 777 and NGX -$335.00

So I assume that you also are moving from FSX to P3Dv4 and have to repurchase the PMDG planes again?  It's expensive but this P3Dv4 is whole new sim.  At least you are not like many of us that have had to pay already by going into P3Dv2 and then V3.  People who moves directly from FSX to P3Dv4 are actually a good bunch, whatever you guys now buy will be good with 64 now and in years from now, well until LM decides to dangle to promise of super performance and smoothness and break compatibility again. LOL

I also want to add my voice of dissatisfaction into this pricing. I don't understand Bryan's decision to charge full price (85% is near full price). I am also a loyal customer, having bought the original 737 FS2Crew, Reboot NGX, B777 and Q400 packages, and was looking forward for the B747. Now, I'm not going to buy the B747 when released, because I don't want to have FS2C only in one add-on. So FS2C lost one future purchase and I suspect more for the 747 version. I'm not going to buy any future product again if I'm to lose this core package as I have to pay 90$ for the same products that work in P3Dv4. Its not only a matter of money its a matter or principle. I find it stupid to pay for the same thing twice. Yes, I know he converted them to 64 bits but as other already said, this would justify a small fee not full price. Bryan himself June 1 has said "Not sure yet.  There might be an upgrade fee." This implies to me that it would be free or get a fee. Fee in common sense is less than 50% of the original price and for sure not 85% . 

Besides, as Carlo said, the original version and the 64bit version didn't took the same time to put on the store. The first took at least a year, the 64bit took 4 weeks. How he can ask 85% of the original price? 

By doing that Bryan is like turning his back to us, his loyal customers that supported him for so many years. Only newcomers in the hobby would not be affected. That's very unfair and I'd like to ask Bryan to reconsider. 

15 hours ago, Anxu00 said:

So I assume that you also are moving from FSX to P3Dv4 and have to repurchase the PMDG planes again?  It's expensive but this P3Dv4 is whole new sim.  At least you are not like many of us that have had to pay already by going into P3Dv2 and then V3.  People who moves directly from FSX to P3Dv4 are actually a good bunch, whatever you guys now buy will be good with 64 now and in years from now, well until LM decides to dangle to promise of super performance and smoothness and break compatibility again. LOL

No, from P3Dv3. Did purchase the PMDG 777 and NGX, but both planes were a free upgrade to V4 of course. When I went from FSX to P3D, I was  lucky to purchase the P3D version of the 777 for $89, as it discounted for the first 3 months.

But the FS2Crew is a different kettle of fish, as it would be a 3rd purchase for both planes.

On 7/1/2017 at 11:06 PM, Daedalus said:

I also want to add my voice of dissatisfaction into this pricing. I don't understand Bryan's decision to charge full price (85% is near full price). I am also a loyal customer, having bought the original 737 FS2Crew, Reboot NGX, B777 and Q400 packages, and was looking forward for the B747. Now, I'm not going to buy the B747 when released, because I don't want to have FS2C only in one add-on. So FS2C lost one future purchase and I suspect more for the 747 version. I'm not going to buy any future product again if I'm to lose this core package as I have to pay 90$ for the same products that work in P3Dv4. Its not only a matter of money its a matter or principle. I find it stupid to pay for the same thing twice. Yes, I know he converted them to 64 bits but as other already said, this would justify a small fee not full price. Bryan himself June 1 has said "Not sure yet.  There might be an upgrade fee." This implies to me that it would be free or get a fee. Fee in common sense is less than 50% of the original price and for sure not 85% . 

Besides, as Carlo said, the original version and the 64bit version didn't took the same time to put on the store. The first took at least a year, the 64bit took 4 weeks. How he can ask 85% of the original price? 

By doing that Bryan is like turning his back to us, his loyal customers that supported him for so many years. Only newcomers in the hobby would not be affected. That's very unfair and I'd like to ask Bryan to reconsider. 

 

I too share your frustrations and the sentiment that many others have expressed in the forum post.

I shared them in the FS2CREW dedicated forum only for Bryan York to delete them. He also deleted many other posts sharing the same view.

It may be a commercial forum, but that has solidified my views on the manner. A private message querying the decision to delete the post was matched with, "Our forum is a technical support forum. If you don't like our pricing, then simply don't buy the product". Well Bryan, I won't be held to ransom simply because there is not any competition in the market. 

Your pricing is unfair. It is a kick in the teeth to users who have purchased your software. It is absurd and ludicrous. 

It is wrong and you are wrong on this matter. 

He deleted my post about it too. He is wrong and he knows it, the fact that he deletes any posts about it and hasn't come on this post to comment shows that. But there are alternatives (MCE), and after many many years of being a loyal FS2Crew purchaser (since the original pmdg 737) this kind of money grabbing attempt will make me consider other options. 

2 hours ago, jjf said:

He deleted my post about it too. He is wrong and he knows it, the fact that he deletes any posts about it and hasn't come on this post to comment shows that. But there are alternatives (MCE), and after many many years of being a loyal FS2Crew purchaser (since the original pmdg 737) this kind of money grabbing attempt will make me consider other options. 

Wow. I didn't even know that he deletes these kinds of comments in the FS2Crew forum. That is certainly the last nail in the coffin of FS2Crew add-ons for me.