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No upgrade pricing?  $34 US to buy it all over again (even after the coupon)?

Nope.

I could see $10 or possibly $15 to upgrade, but this doesn't sit well.  This comes from a customer that owns almost all the major FS2Crew products (777, 737 Reboot, Airbus, MD-11, Dash 8, iFly 737).  I'm not purchasing everything all over again at nearly full price.

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Yes, I was excited and looking forward to updating to the new version, but I don't know anymore. I'm just getting tired of having to repurchase all my add-ons. This hobby is already expensive as it is.

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When v4 was released I just took a deep breath and said to myself "this is going to cost at least $1000".  So far I have spent about half that mostly because I had to purchase the PMDG products for P3D.  Anyway, I look at it as the price to pay to get the freedom of v4 and no more OOM's.  Unfortunately this is just the beginning of the cost....I still need to upgrade my computer that is getting very long in the tooth now.

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1 hour ago, Greggy_D said:

No upgrade pricing?  $34 US to buy it all over again (even after the coupon)?

Nope.

I could see $10 or possibly $15 to upgrade, but this doesn't sit well.  This comes from a customer that owns almost all the major FS2Crew products (777, 737 Reboot, Airbus, MD-11, Dash 8, iFly 737).  I'm not purchasing everything all over again at nearly full price.

Yep. I also think charging the full price is ridiculous. I really love the FS2Crew products, but I'm simply not willing to pay the full price again. Would have been happy to pay a decent upgrade fee but this way my wallet will stay closed. Sorry. Good that I have become proficient enough to easily fly the 737 and 777 without a co-pilot.

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I know it's going to be debated to death, but I can't help but echo the thoughts of others. IF it was a complete redesign, fair enough. No doubt there was a lot of work to bring it into V4, but asking full price is a bit on the nose. I like the product, but not enough to spend another $50AU for it.

 

 

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Simmarket recently had a 30% off sale on FS2crew, perhaps we could wait to the next discount cycle and get it, no doubt, the NGX and maybe the majestic Q400 will also be ready for v4  by then, so we could bulk buy at the discount price.

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No way I'm paying again for FS2Crew 737NGX when released. Ridiculous!

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Don't forget some products can easily be adapted to 64bit however some take a bit more reworking. FS2CREW stated a while ago that the software needed major reworking to bring it to 64bit compatibility. (I'm not a developer so I can't really appreciate how much time & effort goes into this)

I too would rather not have to reach for my credit card, however I also like to show appreciation for work well done and play my part to help keep this little hobby rolling for everyone to enjoy.

Waiting impatiently for the 747 co-pilot.

IM

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23 minutes ago, DeCampos said:

No way I'm paying again for FS2Crew 737NGX when released. Ridiculous!

I have trouble understanding the logic here. You likely repurchased the NGX which went from 32 bits in FSX to no change in P3D except PMDG pointed the installer to the P3D folder but this is a problem.  

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30 minutes ago, MarkW said:

I have trouble understanding the logic here. You likely repurchased the NGX which went from 32 bits in FSX to no change in P3D except PMDG pointed the installer to the P3D folder but this is a problem.  

I tend to agree. Couldn't fly without FS2 Crew anyway and the last thing we want is a product that's ill developed for the 64 bit era and causes issues of any kind. I'm happy to pay the asking price.

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23 minutes ago, MarkW said:

I have trouble understanding the logic here. You likely repurchased the NGX which went from 32 bits in FSX to no change in P3D except PMDG pointed the installer to the P3D folder but this is a problem.  

The PMDG NGX is a different product.  Pointing the FSX version into P3D, especially v4 will not work.

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Just now, Anxu00 said:

The PMDG NGX is a different product.  Pointing the FSX version into P3D, especially v4 will not work.

With respect I think you've missed the point that's being made here...

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I'll have to echo the sentiments here...not sure I'm going to pay full price again for V4.  I fly the NGX way more than I do the 777 so may have to wait and pay up for that one instead........

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4 minutes ago, Parping Couplet said:

With respect I think you've missed the point that's being made here...

My post is about " likely repurchased the NGX which went from 32 bits in FSX to no change in P3D except PMDG pointed the installer to the P3D folder" I merely pointed out that PMDG P3D version is not an installer change, the code is different.  As for the FSCrew 777 full upgrade, my solution is simple: I stay with P3Dv3.4, I have no issue with it, so no upgrade.  And I also agreed that repurchase with full price is too much.

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already been posted  many times  this  issue

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4 hours ago, Greggy_D said:

No upgrade pricing?  $34 US to buy it all over again (even after the coupon)?

Nope.

I could see $10 or possibly $15 to upgrade, but this doesn't sit well.  This comes from a customer that owns almost all the major FS2Crew products (777, 737 Reboot, Airbus, MD-11, Dash 8, iFly 737).  I'm not purchasing everything all over again at nearly full price.

Just remember this.  This is a 64 bits platform.  Therefore it's a new P3Dv4.  If you move up you must be ready for anything otherwise stay where you are.  I am happy what I am able to do in this new P3D 64 bit.  I am very excited to see what PMDG can do with this new platform. This is the only plane I fly IMO they are the best in the business.   I want the latest and the greatest sim platform I can get.  Believe me I hate it when I put more money all over again but either that or settle for less. The choice is yours. 

 

David. 

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2 hours ago, Anxu00 said:

The PMDG NGX is a different product.  Pointing the FSX version into P3D, especially v4 will not work.

This is actually not true. Years ago I had on my backup disk the Fsx version of the ngx. Version "c" and it installed perfectly in P3D v3. In version "d" this did not work because the addon was changed.  

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Look at Hifi's Active Sky... A2A, and a few others that offered a free update to 64bit. I wouldn't mind paying a small update fee, that would've been more reasonable to me than having to repurchase it at full price for current customers. This just left a bad taste in my mouth when I heard this too.

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So, I purchased the NGX and 777 Fs2 Crew, then I purchased the NGX Reboot, then I purchased the extra voice sets for both at $30 NZD. I am not going to puchase for the 3rd time. Crazy. The voice sets are now free in the 64bit version. Would have been nice to recieve a discount for owners who already purchased the extra voice set.

Funny thing is, I have been using the 777 without FS2Crew for a couple of weeks now, and have come to enjoy it more without FS2Crew. So, I can live with out it.

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I think fs2crew has a small target market, and the people who buy it are mostly those who've bought previous versions - so no new charges = no cashflow = out of business.

There is a $5 discount, the extra voicepack is included and the captains pack adds RAAS for an extra $10. Like you guys, I'd prefer a free update 😊 But I think I can live with this.

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I am joining those who are not going to pay again for fs2crew the full price.

Nice they included the voice set for free. This makes me feel stupid paying the full price for that addon in the past too.

So sorry fs2crew, in am out.

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6 hours ago, Anxu00 said:

The PMDG NGX is a different product.  Pointing the FSX version into P3D, especially v4 will not work.

You're kidding, right?

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Everybody understands that there was work involved when porting FS2Crew to P3D 64 bit, BUT: Bryan stated that he was not part of the beta team, meaning he could only start porting FS2Crew when P3Dv4 was released. That was one month ago, right? So he is now asking the full price for one month of work (and it was definitely not an entire month as he also updated RAAS)? How much time did he spent for developing the original version? How much time do other developers work to develop an add-on for which they can ask 30 Euros? How many years did Pete Dawson update FSUIPC before asking for the full price on FSUIPC v5? Come on guys, please stop excusing that ridiculous pricing behavior.

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4 minutes ago, carlito777 said:

How much time do other developers work to develop an add-on for which they can ask 30 Euros? How many years did Pete Dawson update FSUIPC before asking for the full price on FSUIPC v5? Come on guys, please stop excusing that ridiculous pricing behavior.

+1 Spot on.

 

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