July 3, 20178 yr Moderator I just took delivery of a new "sim computer" three days ago and have just this afternoon managed to make some time to start setting it up. Gah! What a massive PITA this is going to be, but I sincerely hope the end result will be worth the bother. My main "development computer" suffered a complete failure of the C drive, and I lost several years worth of archived emails. While this isn't the end of the world, a lot of the information I needed (key, passwords, etc.) to reinstall stuff is now gone. My plan is to get the new "sim rig" running with at least FSX:SE and P3Dv4 running, then rework the "old sim" to be my new development machine. I got Max2012 installed on it the other day, so that's done at least. This is the new sim computer's specs: Quote CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Supreme Liquid Cool SLC8600A Desktop Gaming PC (Intel i7-7700K 4.2GHz, NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti 11GB, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 3TB 7200RPM HDD, 240GB SSD, 802.11AC WiFi, Win 10 Home) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XGXDXZF/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 At least Steam is proving it's true worth since I don't have to mess with CDs/DVDs (which is good because this new "hot rod" doesn't have an optical drive at all, nor is there any provision for adding one, or any more hard drives for that matter! I bought an external USB DVD drive for those things that I'll have to install from such media. Fortunately, Win10 so far at least isn't being the PITA I had feared. It took only a few minutes to configure it for minimal spying ability, and sort out which monitor was primary, etc. While typing this Steam is busily downloading FSX:SE and ATS. I'll worry about ETS2 later when I have the "old sim" connected back to my LAN so I can transfer my custom mods and more importantly my profile(s). I really don't want to start all over again... In any case, I'm anxiously looking forward to seeing how well this new machine is going to run P3Dv4 and FSX:SE! Edited July 25, 20178 yr by n4gix Edit Title/Subject Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 4, 20178 yr Congrats Bill, fine looking machine with lots of horsepower. John Hubbard MSFS2020 - Win10
July 4, 20178 yr Moderator Two things I cannot live without on a new W10 system - PCDecrapifier to get rid of the installed garbage and Spybot Anti Beacon to monitor w10 and keep the spying to a minimum. Enjoy - except for a few quirks, I'm beginning to like W10. Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
July 4, 20178 yr Good luck with your new machine! We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
July 4, 20178 yr Author Moderator 1 hour ago, Hubinsc said: Congrats Bill, fine looking machine with lots of horsepower. Well, FSX:SE is screaming along at >100 fps in downtown Chicago with all sliders set on "Ultra" (far right). Of course I haven't installed any 3rd party aircraft or scenery yet either. ATS and ETS2 are stunningly beautiful with nary a hiccup thus far. 41 minutes ago, vgbaron said: Two things I cannot live without on a new W10 system - PCDecrapifier to get rid of the installed garbage and Spybot Anti Beacon to monitor w10 and keep the spying to a minimum. Enjoy - except for a few quirks, I'm beginning to like W10. Vic What is interesting is that Cyberpower left off all the usual "bloatware" but did include the disks in case I should be silly enough to install them, which makes the utter lack of any optical drive all the more ironic! I'll have to suss out Spybot Anti Beacon and get that setup ASAP. 10 minutes ago, HiFlyer said: Good luck with your new machine! Thanks. I'll be downloading P3Dv4 while I go eat dinner. I can't stay up too late though since I've got to drive 45 miles through downtown Chicago to Evanston, IL so I can be "net control" for the 4th of July Parade, then stick around until about 9:30 so I can handle the communications/coordination for the fireworks! Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 4, 20178 yr +1 for Spybot Anti-Beacon Richard Chafey i7-8700K @4.8GHz - 32Gb @3200 - ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero - EVGA RTX3090 - 3840x2160 Res - KBSim Gunfighter - Thrustmaster Warthog dual throttles - Crosswind V3 pedals MSFS 2020, DCS
July 4, 20178 yr Hey Bill...the France add-on for ETS2 is on sale on Steam until 10AM Wed. Don't turn your back on Win10...it'll surprise you, and not in a happy way. Cheers Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
July 4, 20178 yr Author Moderator 1 minute ago, w6kd said: Hey Bill...the France add-on for ETS2 is on sale on Steam until 10AM Wed. Don't turn your back on Win10...it'll surprise you, and not in a happy way. Thanks. I've had France since the day it was released. I'm definitely not happy at all at the moment though... ...while I was in my front office waiting for Steam to finish downloading/installing ETS2, something apparently happened while my back was turned. I walked in and notice black screens (no signal). The computer had shut itself off, and now will not reboot at all. In fact neither monitor is even getting a signal so they remain dark... Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 4, 20178 yr Ugh. Spent all day yesterday recovering from a combination of insults...Win 10 anniversary update borking my SLI video config, and then the FSDreamteam software decided to migrate all my FSDT and Flightbeam sceneries to a new place and structure without warning or giving me an option otherwise, scrambling a very finely crafted scenery configuration that took me months to perfect. There's gotta be an easier way... Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
July 4, 20178 yr If it's new and was delivered to you, there's a good chance some cards were jostled in transit and have popped loose upon heating up a bit when it was powered up, I'd check everything is properly seated on the motherboard. Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
July 4, 20178 yr Author Moderator 47 minutes ago, Chock said: If it's new and was delivered to you, there's a good chance some cards were jostled in transit and have popped loose upon heating up a bit when it was powered up, I'd check everything is properly seated on the motherboard. Alan, I did that before ever plugging it in. Well, I was being nosy and wanted to see how well it was put together. The soft button to turn it on/off was unresponsive, so I had to switch it off with the power supply's master switch. When I enabled power again, the soft switch lighted up (without me pressing it!) and the computer tried to start. Once past the BIOS message, the screen went dark again... Well... THIS is truly embarrasing! When the computer shut itself off (I've got to find that setting and disable it!), unbeknownst to me, my 42" TV/Monitor shut itself off after the signal was lost for X number of minutes... ...and I didn't notice. Since I'd set it up to be the primary display, of course I couldn't see anything! Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 6, 20178 yr Author Moderator The new machine is up and running. Thus far I have FSX:SE, Prepar3Dv4.x, FSW, and all of my SCS games installed. I also have Max2012 installed, just in case I need it later. All of them run really, REALLY well, but I have noticed that the 1080Ti does seem to have a problem handling the intense graphical demands. I need to invest some time in learning how to tweak the fan settings to keep it from screaming in agony... The overtemp "screech" is rather annoying! Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 6, 20178 yr 32 minutes ago, n4gix said: I need to invest some time in learning how to tweak the fan settings to keep it from screaming in agony. Bill, get MSI Afterburner: https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner - as far as I'm aware you don't need to have an MSI graphics card to use it. In the settings, under the Fan tab, you can set a custom fan control curve. Plus, it can show all sorts of useful data about CPU and GPU temps and loads with little-to-no system performance penalty. i7-14700k | Asus ROG STRIX Z790-F Gaming WIFI | 32GB DDR5 RAM | MSI RTX 4080 Super | WD Black SN850X 1TB & 2TB | Corsair HX1000i ATX3.0 | MSI MAG401QR 40" monitor | Win 11 Pro 64-bit | Meta Quest 3
July 6, 20178 yr Author Moderator Thanks. I've been using this on my "old" sim machine, but couldn't remember the name. Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 7, 20178 yr I second the motion for using MSI Afterburner to control the video card fans. It works great on my EVGA 560Ti SOC. And I don't think Windows 10 is all that bad. I have Windows 10 Professional 64-bit on my office laptop and it has been just fine, especially on a SSD. My computer: ABS Gladiator Gaming PC featuring an Intel 10700F CPU, EVGA CLC-240 AIO cooler (dead fans replaced with Noctua fans), Asus Tuf Gaming B460M Plus motherboard, 16GB DDR4-3000 RAM, 1 TB NVMe SSD, EVGA RTX3070 FTW3 video card, dead EVGA 750 watt power supply replaced with Antec 900 watt PSU.
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