November 4, 20178 yr Haha, well whatever works for you. Don't fear modernization though, it can be your friend. - Aaron
November 4, 20178 yr I think that the thing to remember is that for each single person who has a problem that they attribute to Windows 10, there are tens of thousands (hundreds of thousands?) who are using it without any issues. i7-14700k | Asus ROG STRIX Z790-F Gaming WIFI | 32GB DDR5 RAM | MSI RTX 4080 Super | WD Black SN850X 1TB & 2TB | Corsair HX1000i ATX3.0 | MSI MAG401QR 40" monitor | Win 11 Pro 64-bit | Meta Quest 3
November 4, 20178 yr Why not download the iso, and install it, so there's an activation record of it on your machine, then roll back to Windows 7 if you don't like it.That way, when Windows 7 support expires, you have a legit record of it on your machine to install. Jude BradleyBeech Baron: Uh, Tower, verify you want me to taxi in front of the 747?ATC: Yeah, it's OK. He's not hungry. X-Plane 12 and MSFS2020 🙂 System specs: Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 20.04 i7-13700KF Gigabyte Z790 RTX-4060-Ti , 32GB RAM 1X 2TB M2 for X-Plane 12, 1x256GB SSD for OS. 1TB drive MSFS2020
November 4, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, Jude Bradley said: Why not download the iso, and install it, so there's an activation record of it on your machine, then roll back to Windows 7 if you don't like it.That way, when Windows 7 support expires, you have a legit record of it on your machine to install. Where does one download the ISO. Many months back when MS threatened that the free upgrade was ending I tried to download, it failed many times, I gave up especially since they said they would support win7 until 2020? Bryan Wallis aka "fltsimguy" Maple Bay, British Columbia Near CAM3
November 4, 20178 yr 3 hours ago, vortex681 said: I think that the thing to remember is that for each single person who has a problem that they attribute to Windows 10, there are tens of thousands (hundreds of thousands?) who are using it without any issues. Lemmings rarely complain...
November 4, 20178 yr 5 hours ago, bobbyjack said: ...but W10 is faster and more secure. Please do offer some proof of that. I have Win 7, 8.1, and 10 computers here and see no discernible difference in speed. As for Win10 being more secure... well, perhaps from most threats except Microsoft. Greg
November 4, 20178 yr 3 minutes ago, lownslo said: Please do offer some proof of that. I have Win 7, 8.1, and 10 computers here and see no discernible difference in speed. As for Win10 being more secure... well, perhaps from most threats except Microsoft. Greg Ios11 is more secure from most threat`s except Apple, and the same can be said of android except from google. A few years from now there will only be window 10 there`s no 11 in the pipeline. Raymond Fry.
November 4, 20178 yr No issues with win10 and better to be up to date with security especially with all the rampant loopholes trying to be spoofed and hacked. If there is issues with win10 then its usually to do with older hardware and the manufacturer not putting out win10 drivers. Better to get it free by the deadline than to pay MS for a whole new OS come 2020. 2 years is not that far off. Perhaps look at this security chart and make a decision. CYVR LSZH I7-14700k 64gb 6000Mhz DDR5 ASUS z690 ROG STRIX Gaming RTX 4080 Super,
November 4, 20178 yr Anyone know if the ability to install/activate Win10 using Win7 retail keys is still available (i.e. free upgrade)? I have two Win 7 Pro retail discs and keys, unused, sitting on my shelf. _________________________________ -Dan Everette CFI, CFII, MEI 7900X OC @ 4.8GHz | ASRock Fatal1ty X299 Professional | 2 x EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 (SLI) | 32GB G.Skill DDR4 2800
November 5, 20178 yr 19 hours ago, 1st fltsimguy said: Where does one download the ISO. Many months back when MS threatened that the free upgrade was ending I tried to download, it failed many times, I gave up especially since they said they would support win7 until 2020? https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10 Use the 2nd option "Create Windows 10 installation media" Jude BradleyBeech Baron: Uh, Tower, verify you want me to taxi in front of the 747?ATC: Yeah, it's OK. He's not hungry. X-Plane 12 and MSFS2020 🙂 System specs: Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 20.04 i7-13700KF Gigabyte Z790 RTX-4060-Ti , 32GB RAM 1X 2TB M2 for X-Plane 12, 1x256GB SSD for OS. 1TB drive MSFS2020
November 6, 20178 yr On 11/4/2017 at 1:11 PM, lownslo said: As for Win10 being more secure... well, perhaps from most threats except Microsoft. Greg It seems to me that every time I read about some major hack or virus, that MS had already issued a patch against it. But people, and in some cases even IT had not installed the patch. Sure, be suspicious of an update, but there can be a cost. Bob i5, 16 GB ram, GTX 960, FS on SSD, Windows 10 64 bit, home built works anyway.
November 6, 20178 yr 4 hours ago, bobbyjack said: Sure, be suspicious of an update, but there can be a cost. Agreed, but at least with my Win7 install I can do a bit of research about an update before accepting it. Not so easy to do one's due diligence with Win10. With regard to security, I long ago gave up relying on MS to protect me from external threats... that's up to me. Regards, Greg
November 7, 20178 yr 4 hours ago, lownslo said: Agreed, but at least with my Win7 install I can do a bit of research about an update before accepting it. Not so easy to do one's due diligence with Win10. With regard to security, I long ago gave up relying on MS to protect me from external threats... that's up to me. Regards, Greg Most I.T. departments did the same leave well alone don't update if its not broke don't fix it. They paid a heavy price for that, cost company's million`s when a patch update would have stopped it. Raymond Fry.
November 7, 20178 yr 47 minutes ago, rjfry said: Most I.T. departments did the same leave well alone don't update if its not broke don't fix it. They paid a heavy price for that, cost company's million`s when a patch update would have stopped it. But probably not nearly as costly (money and time) as the WannaCry attack earlier this year which you were protected against as long as you had all of the security updates! i7-14700k | Asus ROG STRIX Z790-F Gaming WIFI | 32GB DDR5 RAM | MSI RTX 4080 Super | WD Black SN850X 1TB & 2TB | Corsair HX1000i ATX3.0 | MSI MAG401QR 40" monitor | Win 11 Pro 64-bit | Meta Quest 3
November 7, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, rjfry said: Most I.T. departments did the same leave well alone don't update if its not broke don't fix it. It seems you could be assuming that I don't update my systems (Win7, 8.1 and 10)? I do... I just don't allow MS to do it for me when they want to do the updates. My systems, my responsibility. Greg
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