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Hi, please I need your opinion according cpu and GPU temperatures.

i monitor my temperatures and using the speed fan application looks like average cpu temp are 60-70 Celsius and GPU average 70-80 Celsius.

is it normal? Are they too high? Any solutions please?

Looking for your advise please

Geo

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My liquid cooled CPU never leaves 38C... I've never checked my GPU temp.

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OP, your temperatures are perfectly normal! If you go much over 80 then I would look into more powerful cooling solutions.

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Those temperatures are in the OK range (depends of how much OC do you have, to compare).

I am having the same temperatures when flying in P3D.

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48 minutes ago, WarpD said:

My liquid cooled CPU never leaves 38C... I've never checked my GPU temp.

Is your PC in a refrigerator?

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1 hour ago, georgiosgiannoukos said:

Hi, please I need your opinion according cpu and GPU temperatures.

i monitor my temperatures and using the speed fan application looks like average cpu temp are 60-70 Celsius and GPU average 70-80 Celsius.

is it normal? Are they too high? Any solutions please?

Looking for your advise please

Geo

they are fine. Im presuming that is when under load and not when idle ??  what GPU card is it ?

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Just now, sultanofswing said:

Is your PC in a refrigerator?

my old nocutua d14 used to keep the cpu at 30 ish when idle... 

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Just now, tooting said:

my old nocutua d14 used to keep the cpu at 30 ish when idle... 

30ish is completely normal for an Idle temperature.  But 38c under full load I kinda find that rather "Odd".

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2 minutes ago, sultanofswing said:

30ish is completely normal for an Idle temperature.  But 38c under full load I kinda find that rather "Odd".

ill agree there Sean.. Im presuming he means under idle.

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2 hours ago, georgiosgiannoukos said:

Hi, please I need your opinion according cpu and GPU temperatures.

i monitor my temperatures and using the speed fan application looks like average cpu temp are 60-70 Celsius and GPU average 70-80 Celsius.

is it normal? Are they too high? Any solutions please?

Looking for your advise please

Geo

Exactly my system with HT off. Idle around 25-38c (summer and winter 25c or 10c)

HT on and temps is rising to 85-90c on my system with same clock. Think i see CPU throttling at around 92c.(Just for testing)

Best performance is below 75c (CPU) on my system

Thanks

Michael Moe

 

 

 

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Most silicon-based devices are designed for a maximum junction temperature (Tj(max)) in the 100-105 deg.C range, and design rules are such that running continuously at this temperature gives a lifetime that is an acceptable number of years - typically about a decade.  You really cannot speak about the "lifetime" of a chip as it is based on probability and statistics (google "bathtub curve"), but simplistically that's the point where the late-life defect rate starts to rise exponentially.  The actual numbers vary from product to product, the testing regime applied, and the price the customer is prepared to pay.

Given the activation energies of the commonest defects in silicon, a useful rule of thumb is that the lifetime halves for every 5 deg.C rise in temperature.  In another life, I used to run chips in an oven at 125 deg.C with operating conditions tweaked to give a Tj of 150 deg.C, which is usually the highest temperature at which internal timing relationships and leakage currents are guaranteed.  This gives an acceleration factor of about 1000 (2^10) and you typically start seeing the late-life failures in a couple of months.

Basically you shouldn't see any reduction in lifetime if you run at or below 100 deg.C.  There's no harm in taking a safety margin over that, but there's no need to overdo it either.

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2 hours ago, WarpD said:

My liquid cooled CPU never leaves 38C... I've never checked my GPU temp.

+1, and no my PC is not in a refrigerator, it just has a efficient cooling system.

My PC OC at 4.6Hgz under load using PD3 it never goes over 52C, at idle it is 22c - 26c (room temperature), my 980Ti GPU maximum temp under load is 38C.

Regards,

Simbol

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My GPU is a Nvidia 1080ti and ASUS Z170 pro gaming.

is it normal for so high temp?

im thinking of upgrading to a faster cooling system.

Any successions?

 

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10 minutes ago, simbol said:

+1, and no my PC is not in a refrigerator, it just has a efficient cooling system.

My PC OC at 4.6Hgz under load using PD3 it never goes over 52C, at idle it is 22c - 26c (room temperature), my 980Ti GPU maximum temp under load is 38C.

Regards,

Simbol

Oh sure, so why does everyone else on this planet see higher temps, even with a custom loop watercooling? And with OC...?

You're on LN2?

My 6700K @ stock speeds (and undervolted) with AiO watercooling reaches 80°C under load. 

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1 minute ago, georgiosgiannoukos said:

My GPU is a Nvidia 1080ti and ASUS Z170 pro gaming.

is it normal for so high temp?

im thinking of upgrading to a faster cooling system.

Any successions?

 

Your temps are completely fine.

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2 minutes ago, swiesma said:

Oh sure, so why does everyone else on this planet see higher temps, even with a custom loop watercooling? And with OC...?

You're on LN2?

lol nope, I can send you an screenshots of my temps and my system tonight if you want.

I have a 6700K OC 4.6 GHz HT is enabled, the secret is to "DELID", I DELIED my CPU and put a decent thermal paste removing the rubbish one delivered by Intel.

Regards,
Simbol

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31 minutes ago, simbol said:

+1, and no my PC is not in a refrigerator, it just has a efficient cooling system.

My PC OC at 4.6Hgz under load using PD3 it never goes over 52C, at idle it is 22c - 26c (room temperature), my 980Ti GPU maximum temp under load is 38C.

Regards,

Simbol

I never said "your" PC was in a refigerator, I was quoting someone else.

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1 minute ago, sultanofswing said:

I never said "your" PC was in a refigerator, I was quoting someone else.

I was just clarifying since most people find my temps too low to be true, nothing to do with your coments please don't take offence.

S.

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1 hour ago, Michael Moe said:

i monitor my temperatures and using the speed fan application looks like average cpu temp are 60-70 Celsius and GPU average 70-80 Celsius.

is it normal? Are they too high? Any solutions please?

Your questions are valid but require referencing. There is no standardised way of reporting temps so you can really only relate to the maximums that Intel or AMD specify. Because they are not time referenced comments like the one from Izamm are very relevant.

100c for 1ms,100ms or 1000ms are important because at some point in time they trigger throttling of a core or the whole CPU.

Firstly the programs you use for monitoring?

Afterburner and CPU-z are good at providing averages for temps.

Secondly the standard polling time for both is 1000ms. Some other monitoring software e.g. HWinfo64 uses 2000ms by default. Most are adjustable I use 500ms for core temp and I see spikes that are not registered at 2000 or 1000ms.

At 2000ms polling you could get throttling on a core (that might reflect on screen) so my effort has been to absolutely ensure that in no way can my CPU spike to 100/105c. Depending how keen you are to control your temps I suggest you try changing your polling time downward to see if it throws any different numbers and also monitor afterburner/core temp. HWinfo (if you can monitor it on a separate monitor to your sim screen) will tell you which cores are throttling in real time.

 I have tried to get answers from Intel's forum about momentary temp spikes <500ms but they don't seem to respond to those questions.They also do not provide info on the reporting rate from the CPU tho I see differences when I change the temp software polling rate. I did overclock higher to 5.1GHz on my CPU for a (very) short time and noticed that I introduce some stutters I believe that were caused by temp spikes busting the 105c and therefore throttling for 500ms even though it got thru Blender ok. I don't have the sophisticated software or equipment to chase it further so I keep my machine cool whilst working the sim as hard as I can visually.

my 2c .

That said your average CPU temps are ok imo. If your GPU is showing an average 80c I would be looking to improve airflow if it was me with another fan (a trial and error exercise) because it would be spiking well above that.

To put that into perspective at 4.9GHz I see spikes of 90 to 93c on 2 cores out of 10 that are gone at the next 500ms poll. My average temps flying both v4 and XP11 average at  49c. Idle is 29c in an ambient of 21c. I have a good water cooled loop.

 

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35 minutes ago, swiesma said:

My 6700K @ stock speeds (and undervolted) with AiO watercooling reaches 80°C under load. 

Must be a low-end AIO or it's poorly fitted, because that's high. My 5960x (which is 8 cores and very hot), overclocked and running max daily recommended voltage, doesn't even see 70*C under stress load with a 360 AIO. Barely sees 50 under normal gaming load.

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1 minute ago, Sethos1988 said:

Must be a low-end AIO or it's poorly fitted, because that's high. My 5960x (which is 8 cores and very hot), overclocked and running max daily recommended voltage, doesn't even see 70*C under stress load with a 360 AIO. Barely sees 50 under normal gaming load.

I have an entirely other CPU ;-)

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1 minute ago, swiesma said:

I have an entirely other CPU ;-)

Yes, one that's supposed to run cooler, has HALF the cores and is undervolted. Your temps are way, way too high compared to what they should be.

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12 minutes ago, swiesma said:

Delidding is like cheating :-)

Then I can believe it :-)

lol, OC itself can be considering cheating! so if you are going to cheat the CPU speed you must do it properly, If you DELID you can enjoy lower temps which means more OC SPEED and POWER!

Simbol

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So, if are fine temps why I have lack of graphics(seconds of p3d4.1 freezes and the FPS drops) and back again to normal(in 1-2 seconds occur)

Geo

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