Zimmerbz

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Currently my specs are below.  I fly FSlabs and PMDG planes in the US with lots of payware airports, AS16 and Orbx.  I am looking to upgrade my system a bit but being a novice, I am not sure what to get to see the biggest improvements.  I am looking for a tad more fluidity to my simming experience.  Being not too technical, I am not sure if there is anything that I can add to get a better experience than what I am having now (although I am relatively happy with how I am set up).  Let me know what you think.

Win10, Gigabyte Aorus Z270x Gaming 5, LGA 1151, Intel 7th Gen Core i7 7700K (4.7GHz Overclock) Quad Core, Corsair Hydro Series H60 Liquid Cooling, 16GB G.Skill DDR4 SDRAM 2400MHz, 6GB Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060, PCI Express 3.0, 750 Watt Corsair RM Series Power Supply, 500GB Samsung EVO 850 Solid State Drive (SSD)

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There is some room for video card upgrade. Replacing other components would not give much benefit If you do not want a complete platform change.

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What would upgrading the video card give me?  What video card would you suggest?

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Your main hardware is up to date. The only thing that you Need to upgrade is that video card. Gtx 1070 0r 1080. If you got the cash buy 1080ti. This is where you will have the greatest benefit especially with 8+gb of vram

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If you can afford, you should go for the GTX1080Ti. It is probably the only card giving good results in regard of Dynamic Lighting/Antialiasing (SSAA).

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The 1080Ti would give you the best improvement overall so that it would be worth the cost. IMHO, the 1070 would be a waste of funds, the improvement gained over the 1060 would not justify the cost. The plain 1080 would be a little better in that regard but personally, I would still question the cost vs reward. The extra $$ for the 1080Ti would be the way to go.

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I still wonder why a lot of people pair a 7700K with a 1060, I’ve seen this configuration around a lot and it still doesn’t make sense to me. Anyways, like the others said, a 1080 Ti would really be the only card that would make a big difference, you could always wait until around May or so when the new architecture launches and snag a 1080 Ti for around $350-400 or so.

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Also enable HT if you can with your overclock, and try to ensure you are running the XMP profile for your DDR4 RAM (the bandwidth will help with the minimum FPS which helps with fluidity...).

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6 hours ago, Milton Waddams said:

I still wonder why a lot of people pair a 7700K with a 1060, I’ve seen this configuration around a lot and it still doesn’t make sense to me. Anyways, like the others said, a 1080 Ti would really be the only card that would make a big difference, you could always wait until around May or so when the new architecture launches and snag a 1080 Ti for around $350-400 or so.

I'll believe that when I see it

even with new tech I doubt the 1080ti will go to 400.  

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2 hours ago, ryanbatcund said:

I'll believe that when I see it

even with new tech I doubt the 1080ti will go to 400.  

ditto.. ill be amazed if they reduce down to that low.

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10 hours ago, ryanbatcund said:

I'll believe that when I see it

even with new tech I doubt the 1080ti will go to 400.  

980 Ti did, you can get one now for around $350.

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7 hours ago, tooting said:

ditto.. ill be amazed if they reduce down to that low.

980 Ti dropped to around $400 once Pascal had been out for a while, dropped even lower once the Ti came out.

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But that was the 900 cards.  My gtx 970 was about 300 usd.  The gtx 1070's are approx 420 usd.  I could see a 1080 to going to 500-600

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2 hours ago, ryanbatcund said:

But that was the 900 cards.  My gtx 970 was about 300 usd.  The gtx 1070's are approx 420 usd.  I could see a 1080 to going to 500-600

If Volta is really what the rumors say it is, a bigger jump from Pascal than Pascal was from Maxwell, then those prices will PLUMMET once the new cards are out for a little while, happens every new product generation in tech.

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I have an i5 3570k with a 970 card. I have the funds to upgrade but don't think I will see a big enough improvement to say its worth it. When people with i7700k are looking to improve their hardware I think waiting another year is worthwhile for me!

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Based off of what I have installed now, if I did upgrade to the 1080TI, what types of improvements would I see?  It is a pretty hefty price so if I bit the bullet, I'd want to see a good improvement.  Also, having never installed anything into my PC, how difficult would it be to install one of these on my own?

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The graphics card is the only component in that system that you should even be thinking about upgrading.

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Thanks.  But I guess my real question is, if I do upgrade that, what can I expect to see based on my original system?  I don't want to spend $800 and barely notice any differences. 

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That's a good question, and it will require an answer from someone who has a bit more experience of those top end graphics cards than I do.

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There are always some possibilities to test if your setup is mainly CPU bound or GPU bound and consequently, if an upgrade of the GPU will help to get more out of your sim. Check the load. Check the settings. First, you can use a tool to monitor your GPU load. If you GPU load is anywhere between 90 and 100%, a GPU upgrade will most probably provide you more FPS. If you GPU is running below 90%, e.g. at around 50-70%, a faster GPU will provide you with nothing but lower loads, means not a single FPS more. Otherwise, if you do not want to use a tool, you can try lower resolutions. If you get 30FPS at 1920x1080, try a specific scenario once with only 1280x720 and once with 4K and check how your FPS change. If you get considerably more FPS (not only 1-2, but rather 5-10 or more) with the low resolution and considerably less or similar FPS with the 4K resolution, a GPU upgrade will help. 

Then, when you know what your GPU is capable of, you have to decide if the upgrade is worth the price. Nobody can tell you that you will have 30FPS using GPU XY on 1920x1080, as each and every rig behaves slightly different. And: more GPU power can always be invested into something, either higher antialiasing modes, dynamic lightning, higher resolutions or, if you go for a card with lots of VRAM, higher radius of high resolution textures. Whether or not this is worth the upgrade price remains always your personal choice...

 

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15 hours ago, Zimmerbz said:

Thanks.  But I guess my real question is, if I do upgrade that, what can I expect to see based on my original system?  I don't want to spend $800 and barely notice any differences. 

To be honest don’t expect a $800 difference. 

I went from a 1070 to a 1080ti. You can afford to increase anti aliasing and a few other options such as water quality and shadow quality but that’s about it. Also if you fly at night and use dynamic lightning you will have to drop SSAA back down. 

The sim is still largely CPU bound TBH. 

I use my system for other things so the upgrade was worth it. 

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