ErichB

Cost of flightsimming - per day of use - over 4 years.

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I know we all spend more money than we intend to on our flightsims and I've often wondered what it cost me on average per fligthsim session based on everything I've spent over the last 4 years.

So I calculated it and then worked out an average monthly cost based on that  - and ultimately a cost per sim session. 

Avg monthly software budget (addons) - £50...£2400  (per 4 years) 

New PC once per 4 years ................................£2200

P3D version cost per 4 years ............................£400

Hardware peripherals per 4 years..................... £1000

TOTAL COST per 4 years...................................£6000

COST PER YEAR ...............................................£1500

COST PER MONTH............................................£125

(I only get to fly on weekends and out of approx 8 weekend days per month, I probably fly for 5 of those 8 days

COST PER SIM SESSION....................................£25  (Anywhere between 1-10 hours per session)

Much cheaper than a night out anywhere  and certainly cheaper than golf (which I don't play)

 

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I spend far less on addons and peripherals than you do 😁 and my system is now 5 years old. I'll show your post to my wife and see if she lets me buy a new system and spend more on addons (I was going to put the black eye emoticon here but its gone! what's the world coming to?)

Its also worth remembering that that high performance computer is used for a lot of other thing too so its an even better deal than you indicate.

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Interesting calculation. Sometimes I wonder also, what I really spend but I am a little afraid of the result. But I seem to pay less than you, so I might be fine 🙂

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I agree.

To me the fun and satisfaction of completing a long haul flight with a study Aircraft such PMDG or FSLabs with all the preparations and planning is better than a round of golf or going to a movie

 

Bill

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1 hour ago, ErichB said:

COST PER SIM SESSION....................................£25  (Anywhere between 1-10 hours)

 

Interesting, but I don't think I pay anything like that. I had my last PC for 8 years, and I fly more often than 5 times a month, but I don't think I could put a cost per hour on my usage because I go off and do something else for a couple of months at a time too.

My drumming lessons cost €25 per session, though. :biggrin:

 

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Very Interesting that approach, my daily cost is superior for sure, i prefer not to do that kind of calculation 😎

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I have forgotten about a mid-life graphics card upgrade and one other hardware peripheral. -

Still under £30 a day session of use.  

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Interesting.  I've always justified the costs as compared to going to a bar or something instead (I have a lot of bars/restaurants near me).  Spending $50-100 going out is no problem, especially if my girl is with me, so simming instead of going out actually seems fiscally responsible even considering the thousands I've already invested.  

Plus, "my hobby is flight sim" is far more rewarding and interesting than "I go to bars a lot" (I've certainly done both).  I really do feel that there are plenty of times that I would have gone and grabbed a few drinks if I didn't stay home and fly.  That's $50 a pop I save (adds up over the years)

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The other thing to consider especially if you’re 65+ is the amount of mental processing required to handle a complex aircraft as well as keeping a PC problem-free. Substantially more than a round of golf! :wink:

For the best of both worlds go for a brisk 30 min walk with a/p engaged. 😀👍

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Shutter the thought! 

I don't dare look! It would blow my self image as a prudent disciplined person...

Kind regards with a tinge of conscience and regret for opening and reading this thread,

Stephen 😇

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I spend way less than that. Cheapest activity I have ever done. 

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7 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I spend way less than that. Cheapest activity I have ever done. 

Then you’re doing it wrong Bob 🙂

Love your reputation count number 

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Gee, Erich,

You are about to jump to 1,000 reputation points!

Can I help?

Kind regards,

Stephen

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1 minute ago, SpiritFlyer said:

Gee, Erich,

You are about to jump to 1,000 reputation points!

Can I help?

Kind regards,

Stephen

That’s not what I meant! I don’t give a monkey’s but Bob is a 747.  

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In French we said "quand on aime on ne compte pas". (when you love you don't count the cost).

Each month, I have a budget of 😔😔😔€ for the sim, so last year, I spend 1350€, (=150€ more than expected !)

Mine wife like the Arts, she make each year (minimum) one travel to visit Museums and herself realise creations. Her cost is around 5x mine... 

5 days per week, I'm simming or thinking around our hobby between 3-5 hours/day... So I found that mine passion is a low cost hobby...

Compared to mine best friend, his passion is the photography, or acquisition of books by great readers... Sim is less costly.

Sure runners have less cost and it is better for the health 😄

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1 minute ago, ErichB said:

That’s not what I meant! I don’t give a monkey’s but Bob is a 747.  

OK 😎

Then I will make him a 748, as I am looking forward to that.

Stephen

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1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

The other thing to consider especially if you’re 65+ is the amount of mental processing required to handle a complex aircraft as well as keeping a PC problem-free. Substantially more than a round of golf! :wink:

For the best of both worlds go for a brisk 30 min walk with a/p engaged. 😀👍

With you on that one. Much more mentally invigorating then the waste land called television. I work out in the morning and sim in the afternoon if I don't get too wrapped up on AVSIM.  

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What about power consumption cost? That adds up when actually flying. At idle its barely anything. Maybe not for North Americans, but since moving to Europe, its a whole lot more per kwh. 

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You forgot to add in DCS, IL2 and Aerofly😉

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Posted (edited)

Compare it to renting a Cessna at a local airport, mine is going for around $240/hr these days last I checked.

Much cheaper then that 😎

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12 minutes ago, Matthew Kane said:

Compare it to renting a Cessna at a local airport, mine is going for around $240/hr these days last I checked.

Much cheaper then that 😎

For £25/day  I get to fly Boeings.  You're being short changed on that C152 with fouled up plugs. 😋 

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I’ve spent the last 20 odd years following an FMC generated pink string but many years ago I spent 10s of thousands of pounds and dollars learning how to fly proper IFR on analog gauges and dials. So this is a cheap way , certainly in comparison, to rejuvenate those skills and exercise the brain. You never know when those skills might come in handy again.

Also knocking around in real world jets gives me a justification to spend on the hobby. I went to JFK last week or the first time in 5 years so bought the New York airports package to reacquaint myself. Off to Atlanta soon, never been before, I’ll need the imaginesim KATL scenery then !

Ive also got a choice to make in a couple of years as my aircraft is being retired, what to fly next. I’ve got some pretty high end ,costly add ons which haven’t even  left the ground or have only been as far as the circuit, jar design A330, FF A350 FSL A320 and QW B787. These have allowed me to familiarise myself and play around with their systems and FMCs etc and essentially try before I buy so to speak.

Each change of aircraft is a good six months of hard work and study and it’d be at least 3 years before I could change fleet again . So these add ons though costly have allowed me to make an important real world decision.

Which is basically...”if it ain’t Boeing I ain’t going” (though I reserve the right to change my mind, you never know who’s reading this)

Jon

 

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Ray,

I loved your comment about going for a walk with autopilot engaged.

However, please note that it has taken me 69 years to get as fat as I am and I have no intention of losing that overnight by walking LOL. Another thought here is that the cost of maintaining my slightly enlarged (slim) body is quite a bit more than the cost of even extreme expenditure on hardware and software upgrades.

Seriously though, as an aged pensioner in Australia the amount of funds I can put aside for flight simming is very small even on a yearly basis. I fly mainly in Australia and Indonesia and apart from Townsville (YBTL) I only fly into my ORBX airports and only fly payware aircraft (currently IFly 737 747 and QW Bae-146 (RJ-100) inP3Dv4. Even though a student I can only afford to use the Academic version of P3Dv4. 

I use only payware aircraft (a slightly more enlarged list) in FS2004 and apart from payware scenery in Indonesia (BDO Aviation) all sceneries are freeware. This stems from my oft mentioned lack of developers who invested in Australian sceneries for FS2004. Incidently, this is a theme carried on in FSX, P3Dv1-4 and Xplane with the notable exception of ORBX.

in conclusion, if anybody wants to donate a mere 30 or 40 thousand USD to an extremely goodlooking aged pensioner who is not prepared to be a toy boy, please feel free. LOL I promise to only spend it on flight simming.

Thanks for listening guys n girls

Regards

Tony

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I close my eyes and move forward.   Still one of the least expensive hobbies and I love it so.

 

Stan

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Im not fussed at the cost compared to the cost of hiring a light twin and doing some real flying, 

 

Wayne

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