Jump to content

Sign in to follow this  
Michael Moe

Old tweak still to be used in P3Dv4.4 ?

Recommended Posts

Hi,

I flew out of EDDK yesterday in the PMDG747-8F towards Dubai and noticed that my system (I7-4770K@4,6 HT off, GTX1080TI) was struggling with FTX GES at low altitude (badly need FFTF to give me 0,40-0,50 above 5000feet , as i am running unlimited FPS) and came across the old value UseGlobalTerrainView=False in the P3D.CFG  which i remember had =on so every cameras did not need to reload textures . didnt see much differents but anyone using it still ?

As i climbed out i noticed textures was getting better , also in the distance as i have used Robs tweak for texture distance.

 

Thanks

Michael Moe


Michael Moe

 

fs2crew_747_banner1.png

Banner_FS2Crew_Emergency.png

Share this post


Link to post

I still have it in my config in P3Dv4.4, but just because it was there in v4.3 (I added it). However, never observed a real difference, but also no disadvantage, ergo it is still in my config.


Greetings, Chris

Intel i7-8700K@5.0GHz, 2x16GB 3200MHz CL14 RAM, Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti, Windows 10 Home 64bit, Prepar3D 4.5

Share this post


Link to post

The original setting was 0.33 for FFTF, I experimented with 0.01 and the region purge setting from 16 to 1 and seen a good result in 4.4


 

P3D V4.4, Predator 4770i 3.60GHZ , 16GB Ram, NVidia GTX980m 4 GB Vram, 17.1 60Hz HD Monitor 500GB SSD Samsumg, 1TB HD, 128 SSD Windows 10, Toposim,   Orbx Global, Vector, Europe  N & S California LC, England Regions,  England, PMDG 737, 777, Majestic Q400 and Aerosoft Airbus A318-20.

Share this post


Link to post

And another one posting FFTF=0.01... When do the people finally get that the lowest setting accepted by P3D is 0.1? I fear that we never get this placebo setting out of the simmers minds...

  • Like 2

Greetings, Chris

Intel i7-8700K@5.0GHz, 2x16GB 3200MHz CL14 RAM, Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti, Windows 10 Home 64bit, Prepar3D 4.5

Share this post


Link to post
2 hours ago, AnkH said:

And another one posting FFTF=0.01... When do the people finally get that the lowest setting accepted by P3D is 0.1? I fear that we never get this placebo setting out of the simmers minds...

One question I have about this limit, however, is whether FFTF Dynamic, by presumably altering the value directly in program memory, is bypassing the range checks that P3D normally does for a parameter set in the Prepar3D.cfg file.

It could well be that values below 0.1 are possible using the utility.  Notably, the default lower value in v1.3 of FFTF Dynamic is 0.01--whether that's placebo or not hasn't been clearly established.

Regards


Bob Scott | AVSIM Forums Administrator | AVSIM Board of Directors

ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

System: i7-8086K @ 5.3GHz on custom water loop, ASUS Maximus XI Hero, 16GB 3600MHz CAS15, eVGA 2080Ti XC Ultra, Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@30Hz, 2x1TB Samsung SSD 970Pro NVMe+850 Pro SATA 3, eVGA 1KW PSU

SB XFi Titanium, optical link to Yamaha RX-V467, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf spkrs, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro, PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensors, Coolermaster HAF932 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Share this post


Link to post

The Fact when you change it makes a difference might suggest you are correct.


 

P3D V4.4, Predator 4770i 3.60GHZ , 16GB Ram, NVidia GTX980m 4 GB Vram, 17.1 60Hz HD Monitor 500GB SSD Samsumg, 1TB HD, 128 SSD Windows 10, Toposim,   Orbx Global, Vector, Europe  N & S California LC, England Regions,  England, PMDG 737, 777, Majestic Q400 and Aerosoft Airbus A318-20.

Share this post


Link to post

Another old tweak working very well on my low end PC (i7 3700K / GTX 1060)  is UsePools=0 in the [Bufferpools] section. I really get more FPS by setting that even on 4.4.

Concerning FFTF, my best value is 0.25.

Share this post


Link to post
On 12/5/2018 at 12:11 PM, AnkH said:

And another one posting FFTF=0.01... When do the people finally get that the lowest setting accepted by P3D is 0.1? I fear that we never get this placebo setting out of the simmers minds...

No placebo at my end Chris. I agree, have tried a host of other tweaks, 99% of which have no effect, but FFTF=0.1 works flawlessly. However, while I see no effect whatsoever for blurries from 0.01 through to 0.50 (not been higher than this) there is a distinct improvement with FPS increase and smoothness. My sim is super smooth with FFTF=0.01 but I wouldn't even consider flying without it. I'm not saying it works for others, just my own experience. Certainly no placebo effect 😉


Howard
P3Dv4, Asus Z170-A MB, i7-6700 Skylake @ 4.5ghz, Asus GTX1080ti 11Gb GPU, 16gb RAM@3200Mhz, SSD/1Tb+P3D.v4.4, SSD/500Gb+OS, Western Digital 1Tb HD + Storage, Ocz 750 PSU, Philips BDM4350UC 43" 4K IPS, 2 x 17" Dell @ 1920x1200. PFC Yoke, Warthog throttle system, Saitek combat pedals, Saitek switch and radio panels, VRinsight Boeing 2 MCP.



Banner_FS2Crew_Supporter.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
On 12/5/2018 at 1:11 PM, AnkH said:

And another one posting FFTF=0.01... When do the people finally get that the lowest setting accepted by P3D is 0.1? I fear that we never get this placebo setting out of the simmers minds...

Do you have a source for that? In my experience, 0.01 makes a difference in FPS, which means it is accepted by the sim.


Best regards, Dimitrios

Share this post


Link to post

Careful guys. I am not saying that FFTF has no effect and that you do not get better FPS or the impression of a smoother sim with FFTF=0.01 compared to the default value. What I am saying is that this value is not accepted by P3D and most probably automatically corrected to the next acceptable level which is 0.1 (that is the big question).

Means: if you can show me a true difference between 0.1 and 0.01, I would be really surprised.

 

Edited by AnkH

Greetings, Chris

Intel i7-8700K@5.0GHz, 2x16GB 3200MHz CL14 RAM, Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti, Windows 10 Home 64bit, Prepar3D 4.5

Share this post


Link to post
On 12/5/2018 at 12:11 PM, AnkH said:

And another one posting FFTF=0.01... When do the people finally get that the lowest setting accepted by P3D is 0.1? I fear that we never get this placebo setting out of the simmers minds...

In the P3D tips and tricks forum.

.Showing that 0.01 = like running FPS unlimited. Unlimited is known to be 0.01

 

Edited by Nyxx

David Murden.  P3D v5  FSL A321 / A320 / A319 : PMDG NGu / 748PMDG NG / 747-/ 777 : QW 787 :  Maddog MD-80 :Q400 :

DCS: A10C Warthog : AV-8B Harrier :  F-14B Tomcat  : F-16C Viper F/A-18C Hornet 

My FSL Walkthrough PDF From GPU to Parked.      My PMDG NGXu Light Mod      My PMDG NG SpotLight Profile/Mod.  

PC 4790k@4.6 : 1070 : 16GB DDR3 RAM : Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS: Thrustmaster TPR.

Share this post


Link to post

Following on from the FFTF setting at 0.01 not being recognized by P3D, I was looking at FFTF Dynamic, which has a good following on here and I noticed their setting starts at 0.01 up.

Might give that program ago, especially as 50% off at Simmarket, although 4.4 update has not been released yet.


 

P3D V4.4, Predator 4770i 3.60GHZ , 16GB Ram, NVidia GTX980m 4 GB Vram, 17.1 60Hz HD Monitor 500GB SSD Samsumg, 1TB HD, 128 SSD Windows 10, Toposim,   Orbx Global, Vector, Europe  N & S California LC, England Regions,  England, PMDG 737, 777, Majestic Q400 and Aerosoft Airbus A318-20.

Share this post


Link to post
14 minutes ago, Langyboy63 said:

Might give that program ago, especially as 50% off at Simmarket, although 4.4 update has not been released yet.

Yes it has, today!  I'm using it now.It's version 1.4:

Pete

Compatibility

FS2004 :No 
FSX :No 
FSX Steam Edition :No 
FSW :No 
Prepar3D v1 :No 
Prepar3D v2 :No 
Prepar3D v3 :No 
Prepar3D v4 :Yes 
X-Plane 10 :No 
X-Plane 11 :No 
Aerofly FS 2 :No 
 
Delivery: Direct Download
Latest update: 07/12/2018
Latest version: 1.4
 
 
  • Like 1

Win10: 2004 19041.264
CPU: 9900KS at 5.5GHz
Memory: 32Gb at 3900 MHz.
GPU:  RTX 24Gb Titan
2 x 2160p projectors at 30Hz onto 200 FOV curved screen

Share this post


Link to post

Thanks Pete.

Chris.


 

P3D V4.4, Predator 4770i 3.60GHZ , 16GB Ram, NVidia GTX980m 4 GB Vram, 17.1 60Hz HD Monitor 500GB SSD Samsumg, 1TB HD, 128 SSD Windows 10, Toposim,   Orbx Global, Vector, Europe  N & S California LC, England Regions,  England, PMDG 737, 777, Majestic Q400 and Aerosoft Airbus A318-20.

Share this post


Link to post
On 12/5/2018 at 1:11 PM, AnkH said:

And another one posting FFTF=0.01... When do the people finally get that the lowest setting accepted by P3D is 0.1? I fear that we never get this placebo setting out of the simmers minds...

I am not into arguing with you about this statement.

But anyone who is reading this statement should check out for himself on his system if there is a difference in FPS with FFTF=0.01 and FFTF=0.1. I certainly do see a significant difference on my system.

 

Share this post


Link to post

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
  • Tom Allensworth,
    Founder of AVSIM Online


  • Flight Simulation's Premier Resource!

    AVSIM is a free service to the flight simulation community. AVSIM is staffed completely by volunteers and all funds donated to AVSIM go directly back to supporting the community. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. Thank you for your support!

    Click here for more information and to see all donations year to date.
  • Donation Goals

    AVSIM's 2020 Fundraising Goal

    Donate to our annual general fundraising goal. This donation keeps our doors open and providing you service 24 x 7 x 365. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. We reset this goal every new year for the following year's goal.


    18%
    $4,700.00 of $25,000.00 Donate Now
×
×
  • Create New...