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3 hours ago, Pete Dowson said:

All this is a very new for me -- a different territory.  Can you do that adjustment easily or semi-automatically, using AIG still to find and build the traffic system for you? 

If not then surely that would be an excellent feature to be added to AIG.

I would go on the Forum and suggest it, but if it is easy enough to do in any case that seems a bit daft.

Pete

 

Hi Pete,

It's easy, load a traffic bgl from any folder, this one is from my AIGAIM folder which I have on my non-P3D drive. Flight Plans then Adjust Activity Levels:

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Then adjust away and select type of adjustment. I use Random and then tweak selected airports using the Time Table function several lines above. Then just compile and you're good.

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This does not bother AIG at all. I did suggest adding an activity adjustment to AIGAIM on their forum so hopefully we'll see that. Hope this helps!

 

 

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39 minutes ago, gsand said:

It's easy, load a traffic bgl from any folder

Ah, so it works on the compiled results of AI Manager! Thanks. Then it becomes much more attractive!

42 minutes ago, gsand said:

I did suggest adding an activity adjustment to AIGAIM on their forum so hopefully we'll see that.

Yes, that would be nice.

43 minutes ago, gsand said:

Hope this helps!

Certainly, thanks! i'll try this tomorrow! 😉

Pete

 

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On 1/25/2019 at 8:07 PM, gsand said:

Hi MDFlier,

One thing to keep in mind is that AIG's default is 1% activity for every flight plan so if you have your traffic at 50% then that's what you'll get. For me it's too much traffic, at places like Atlanta or JFK you can barely get a clearance, let alone taxi or takeoff. And the performance hit is massive.

I use AIFP and adjust the activity for the plans from 1-50% for everything except the big fields, use 1-40% for them. With the P3D 25% for commercial and 20 for GA I've got a lot of traffic but the level feels about right for me.

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The problem I was asking about is solved. i had an out of date version of AIFP!

Thanks!
Pete

 

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On 2/5/2019 at 3:25 PM, jabloomf1230 said:

AI Flight Planner allows changing activity levels for either one BGL or multiple plans in bulk. For example, the MAIW Matrix utility's flightplans (a military AI version of AIGFM) automatically installs dozens of plans. But since they were ported over to P3d4 from FS9, the activity levels often make no sense when compared to real world levels. I changed all of the files at once with AIFP so that they had a suitable range.

I had an out of date version of AIFP, but having updated I do see, in the Bulk menu, an entry to update activity levels.  Good so far. But, selecting it,  the dialogue is headed "Update elevations for Add-on Airports in Traffic files", which is odd and worrying.

If i assume that's just a minor error and means nothing, and select my AIGM traffic folder, I get the option to set min and max but no randomize, which is what I want. (Also you can't get out of that prompt by pressing its Cancel button).

Can you help please?

Pete

 

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1 hour ago, Pete Dowson said:

[EDIT]

The problem I was asking about is solved. i had an out of date version of AIFP!

Thanks!
Pete

 

That's great Pete, glad you got it sorted out.

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4 minutes ago, gsand said:

That's great Pete, glad you got it sorted out.

Yes, now the next hurdle. With 109 files i'd like to do it "en bulk" as Jabloom managed. But I failed (as described in my subsequent post).

Pete

 

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2 hours ago, Pete Dowson said:

Yes, now the next hurdle. With 109 files i'd like to do it "en bulk" as Jabloom managed. But I failed (as described in my subsequent post).

Pete

 

You might want to point out both those issues to Don Grovestine on the FSDeveloper forum. The dialog box has the wrong heading and I guess that no one ever noticed that before. That quirk probably results from reusing dialog boxes. The second issue requires killing AIFP with the Task Manager. Neither issue affects the correct operation of the bulk update though. The Boolean logic works fine as best that I can tell. The activity levels are randomized with a range from the minimum  to the maximum. If the maximum=minimum than all the activity levels are the same. The < and > operators work by fixing the extreme of the range to 1% and 100% respectively. Note that the "random" distribution is a uniform random distribution. As the developer, Don would be the only one who could for sure answer your questions, though.

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3 hours ago, jabloomf1230 said:

The activity levels are randomized with a range from the minimum  to the maximum. If the maximum=minimum than all the activity levels are the same. The < and > operators work by fixing the extreme of the range to 1% and 100% respectively. Note that the "random" distribution is a uniform random distribution.

That's good, exactly what I wanted to know. It's just a little confusing as the non-bulk method also has Max and min setting but a "random" button also. the previous version of AIFP didn't have the latter, so it looked as if having it random was a new addition, so i wanted a way to select that for the bulk operation.

Thanks!
Pete

 

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Thank you, thank you, thank you!! Just got a new rig and upgraded to V4 and this app has saved me a load of time!!

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One problem I am having is Aircraft showing up in red in AIFP.

In AIGOCI, the aircraft in question is FAIB A320-200SL, and A321-PW, but only on certain airlines.

Have checked the aircraft in the simobjects, and all as it should be, Any ideas anyone ?

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When I try to randomize a fp, a box comes with eg: AC#500 Air_New Zealand A320-200SL in not available on your system, but it is clearly there.

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51 minutes ago, ZKOKQ said:

One problem I am having is Aircraft showing up in red in AIFP.

In AIGOCI, the aircraft in question is FAIB A320-200SL, and A321-PW, but only on certain airlines.

Have checked the aircraft in the simobjects, and all as it should be, Any ideas anyone ?

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When I try to randomize a fp, a box comes with eg: AC#500 Air_New Zealand A320-200SL in not available on your system, but it is clearly there.

If ANZ downloaded correctly, you should be able to find the problem aircraft in ...AIGAIM - OCI\SimObjects\AIGAIM_FAIB_A320-200SL_IAE, check in the aircraft.cfg that it appears.

In AIFP, open the Air New Zealand flightplan .bgl file.
Under 'Aircraft List' in the 3rd column, right click on the aircraft showing in red. Click 'Substitute'.

In next window, scroll down until you find the aircraft title "AIGAIM_Air_New Zealand A320-200SL", then click use selected.

Then click the 'Compile' button on original screen.

Should work.

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4 minutes ago, F737NG said:

Should work

And it did. Can't thank you enough 🙂

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OK so I just downloaded AI Flight planner. 

Im trying to get control over the amount of AI spawns

When you say I need to "load a traffic bgl"..what do you mean and do I need to do this for each airline I have?

I'm trying to get a little less AI around the airports because I guess AIG AI doesn't use the P3D UI slider anymore.

Thanks! 

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10 minutes ago, fakeflyer737 said:

OK so I just downloaded AI Flight planner. 

Im trying to get control over the amount of AI spawns

When you say I need to "load a traffic bgl"..what do you mean and do I need to do this for each airline I have?

I'm trying to get a little less AI around the airports because I guess AIG AI doesn't use the P3D UI slider anymore.


In AIFP, go to 'Bulk Traffic' in the menu bar, click 'Update Activity Levels in Traffic Files'.

In new window, select the folder location of your AIG traffic bgl files. e.g. C:\...\...\AIG_AIM-OCI AI aircraft\AIGAIM - OCI\Traffic Files\Scenery\
Choose all of the traffic files you wish to change. (Test one traffic file first, if it works, repeat and select all of them).
Click on 'Use Selected/Checked' button.

In next window, put the following:
1 - 99
Click OK.

That's it - your slider traffic slider in P3D will now work again.

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Thank you, that was great. Just so I am clear..if it is set 1-99 in AIFP and i run the tool and then go to P3dv4 traffic and set to say 50%..am I cutting my traffic in half. trying to get an even balance of traffic so as not to bring my 1080ti to a grinding halt. I know that AIM (AIG) plan to implement the adjustment in their AI Manager at some point maybe with 0.9 version and a new traffic board.

 

Thank you,

BobM.

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8 hours ago, unc1rlm said:

Just so I am clear..if it is set 1-99 in AIFP and i run the tool and then go to P3dv4 traffic and set to say 50%..am I cutting my traffic in half.

That's the premise of it, I've never gone in and figured it out though. Randomized 1-99% may not be exactly balanced but it's much better than everything at 1% imo. 

 Plus if there are any particular aircraft/special livery or destination what have you that you want to ensure stays at a lower %, then you can adjust those to whatever you like.

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Thank you Dave...yeah I did the 1-99 and set my traffic at 100 and I believe..have to relook at Atlanta and seemed the traffic dropped significently. I seems that alot of the traffic all run for the gate and are landing all at once in the beginning and sooner or later it all shakes out... If you get a chance..koala's "little bgl tool is really neat but I guess he put the brakes on it since AIG is working on the traffic board etc and was more or less told to find something else to do.. Anyway.. he did that stuff for converting flt plans to xml for UTLive.

https://www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?topic=29651.0

Thanks, Dave

Bestest,

BobM.

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In the past I ran AI at 100% (with max aircraft and min FPS thresholds set in UTL). Now that most of my ai is installed with AIGAIM, I'll probably end up randomizing things if I get a chance this weekend. Rather than randomizing every airline, I think I'll stick to the large airlines that have large presences at major airports and have a tendency to choke out smaller carriers and fill up cargo spaces. America, Delta, United, Lufthansa... I don't want to randomize smaller carriers, because I want to see those airlines more often.

My apprehension with doing this, however, is the randomization could limit special paints. In theory, I would want all of the flightplans with special paints to remain at 1%, but that would require a lot of custom work. With the UTL limits, I don't think specific flights or paints were limited. The process of limiting the aircraft in the sim was more dynamic, I think.

 

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Good point...Thank you!! Just curious..on say Delta...what would you tick in AIFP as far as adjust Flight plan activity level?

Bestest,

BobM

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1 hour ago, duckbilled said:

My apprehension with doing this, however, is the randomization could limit special paints. In theory, I would want all of the flightplans with special paints to remain at 1%, but that would require a lot of custom work. With the UTL limits, I don't think specific flights or paints were limited. The process of limiting the aircraft in the sim was more dynamic, I think.

 

Back up the entire AIG-OCI folder first. if you are not happy with the results of your randomizing, you can just delete that folder and restore it from your backup. Then you can try it all over again and see if it comes out to your liking. 

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Yeah, I made a copy of it...If I say go to Delta Airlines and yesterday I used 1-99....then I pick it again today. can I redo it and then do I compile it? Yesterday I did bulk and there was no option to compile..Thanks, MDFlier

BobM

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If there are specific liveries that you want to have shown at a particular %, just select them within AIFP and edit that/those aircraft with what ever number you'd like and recompile.

 

 You can recompile as many times as you like.

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Dave..when you mean "specific liveries" and %....kinda new at all that..example and back to Delta (say at Atlanta since that is a hub and lots of aircraft..what would you recommend for setting the activity level at? So I can see all the pretty aircraft...lol 🙂

 

Thanks,

Bob M.

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1 hour ago, unc1rlm said:

 what would you recommend for setting the activity level at? So I can see all the pretty aircraft...lol 🙂

 Delta and ATL? What pretty aircraft are you looking for there? I was more referring to airlines with special liveries such as the various specials with SWA or ASA/QXE etc.  Adjust those aircraft specifically and set them to something under 20% for example.

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lol... I guess the Delta's are kinda "bland" thanks Dave....Gotcha...will check out those...enjoy ai watching......I will go back and re-read your post on AIG

https://www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?topic=29442.msg297668#msg297668

about the percentages..

After having read this..I went into say Delta...I opened the flight plan with AIFP and went to adjust whatever and it was already set to "random" 1-80. Now yesterday I bulk traffic percentages and put in 1-99.. I have never assigned 1-80 as random. Is this automatically being done by AIM or some alien force 🙂  So I did Delta, United,Southwest and American here in the USA....

On the right track?

 

Have a great day!!

BobM.

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