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Benefits of upgrading to P3D v4.5 HF1

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Please share your experience.

Are loading times increased?

Better fps?

Better night lighting? I'm using FTXG and was wondering if there's still an improvement.

Anything else worth sharing?

Thanks for the feedback!

Jose

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There’s an entire thread about the update. It takes 5 minute to install. 5 minutes to revert back. 

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Everything has to be tried by yourself, and you must use your own hands to study your own research. Don't listen to anything, and people who want to share will naturally share it. I suggest that you completely uninstall your P3D, install HF1 completely, and you will find a qualitative leap.

best wishes。

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Let me ask again!

Please share your experience.

Are loading times increased?

Better fps?

Better night lighting? I'm using FTXG and was wondering if there's still an improvement.

Anything else worth sharing?

Thanks for the feedback!

Jose

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Are loading times increased?  No

Better fps? No

Better night lighting? I'm using FTXG and was wondering if there's still an improvement.  Not yet flown at night.

Anything else worth sharing? I did the Client only.  I didn't have problems with 4.5, and the Hotfix didn't make any real difference for me.

HTH,

Greg

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37 minutes ago, cdv0007 said:

 I suggest that you completely uninstall your P3D

Don't do this. Massive waste of time for a point release. 

So many users here make this process 1000% more complicated than it has to be.

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re loading times increased?  yes because there is no addon installed just now

Better fps? yes because there is no addon installed just now

Better night lighting?  no , always unreal

Anything else worth sharing? If you don't install the HF1 completely, you will see countless bright white blocks on the ground in the low-altitude clouds, which can also be seen in some clouds. but 4.4 is OK

good luck , stay your 4.4 untill halfyear~i think~

i am install the HF1 fully and feel despair.

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My experience has been nothing but positive. I did a clean install and added my compliment of add-ons (ORBX, global, vector, open LC, regions, airports, etc, Active Sky, Sky Force, Environment Force, and my fleet of GA airplanes...A2A, Vrtex, RealAir)  I’m seeing 8-10 FPS gains in almost every scenario. I know that is not typical of what is being reported, but hey that’s what I’m seeing on my rig and not complaining at all. 

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4 minutes ago, snglecoil said:

My experience has been nothing but positive. I did a clean install and added my compliment of add-ons (ORBX, global, vector, open LC, regions, airports, etc, Active Sky, Sky Force, Environment Force, and my fleet of GA airplanes...A2A, Vrtex, RealAir)  I’m seeing 8-10 FPS gains in almost every scenario. I know that is not typical of what is being reported, but hey that’s what I’m seeing on my rig and not complaining at all. 

Vrtex DA62 is working ?~

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10 minutes ago, cdv0007 said:

Vrtex DA62 is working ?~

Yes!

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Normally I jump on these updates because there is something in them that motivates me to do so, such as PBR in the 4.4 update. In this case there doesn't seem to be much for me other than simply being on the latest platform. 5 minutes to install and 5 minutes to revert seems like a massive understatement given that if you have any add-ons there is a high likelihood that you'll need to seek out and install updates for those as well. So, for me I'm sticking with 4.4 until there is a compelling reason to move forward.

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3 hours ago, DJJose said:

Please share your experience.

Are loading times increased?

Better fps?

Better night lighting? I'm using FTXG and was wondering if there's still an improvement.

Anything else worth sharing?

Thanks for the feedback!

Jose

Better load times on certain orbx sceneries especially Orlando. I also had a bug in 4.4 where some scenery items would not load on arrival (taxi bridge at t2g kmco that wasn’t meant for p3dv4) but now loads correctly in 4.5.

FPS is much better than 4.5 non-hot fix but no better than 4.4. 

Night lighting is improved depending on your add on scenery. I am noticing higher draw distances with orbx lights which looks better than in 4.4.

 

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4 hours ago, DJJose said:

Please share your experience.

Are loading times increased?

Better fps?

Better night lighting? I'm using FTXG and was wondering if there's still an improvement.

Anything else worth sharing?

Thanks for the feedback!

Jose

Are you looking for a comparison to V4.5.11, or to V4.4. ?

The answers above are inconsistent in that regard.. :unsure:

For what it is worth, V4.5.11. improved scenery loading for me vs V4.4. (fewer pauses) but impacted scenery rendering a bit...

For V4.5.12. it looks like they backed off what the original release did a bit.. and restored the rendering performance.. but some pauses have come back.. Looks like they are pushing the envelope of the ESP engine..

Overall, V4.5.12. is running smoothly for me now, and I have no desire to go back to V4.4.

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Hi Bert,

Your tips about that FFTF tool and using RTSS helped me *lots* so thank you for that!  \o/

Do you think that LM could put scenery loading into its own thread and that would help?  Prolly a lot of work to do...

Going to try the 4.5 hotfix today *fingers crossed*.

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1 hour ago, Buffy Foster said:

Hi Bert,

Your tips about that FFTF tool and using RTSS helped me *lots* so thank you for that!  \o/

Do you think that LM could put scenery loading into its own thread and that would help?  Prolly a lot of work to do...

Going to try the 4.5 hotfix today *fingers crossed*.

Do you have a link to Bert's post?

**EDIT**

I think I found it:

 

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3 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

Are you looking for a comparison to V4.5.11, or to V4.4. ?

The answers above are inconsistent in that regard.. :unsure:

For what it is worth, V4.5.11. improved scenery loading for me vs V4.4. (fewer pauses) but impacted scenery rendering a bit...

For V4.5.12. it looks like they backed off what the original release did a bit.. and restored the rendering performance.. but some pauses have come back.. Looks like they are pushing the envelope of the ESP engine..

Overall, V4.5.12. is running smoothly for me now, and I have no desire to go back to V4.4.

Will try it again when the FSL bus is out for 4.5.12, till then 4.4 😉

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3 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

Are you looking for a comparison to V4.5.11, or to V4.4. ?

Yes.

I want a Fully operating PTA and it looks like Matt finally got it working with 4.5. All my other required addons seem to have already been updated to p3d v4.5.

Still need an update for REX SF, but it looks like it's on the way.

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4 hours ago, JasonPC said:

Better load times on certain orbx sceneries especially Orlando. I also had a bug in 4.4 where some scenery items would not load on arrival (taxi bridge at t2g kmco that wasn’t meant for p3dv4) but now loads correctly in 4.5.

Thanks!

Finally finished testing T2G KMCO with FTX Orlando City (deleted some bgls from the KMCO terrain folder) and I'm very happy with the results in P3D v4.4. Looks great together!

My only complain is that I wish it would load a little faster. Looking forward to see if it's improved with 4.5 on my system.

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Myself I went from 4.4 -> 4.5, then back to 4.4 and now to 4.5 HF1 and I think this time around I'll be staying.

When I updated from 4.4 to the original 4.5 release I did notice many great improvements, however the performance loss was just unaccepatable and therefore I rolled back to 4,4 pending the hotfix release.

When you're running vsync'd framerates of 30 FPS and you loose 10% performance (3 FPS) you're no longer able to keep in the vsync sweet spot and the whole flight becomes a stutter and frame drop mess, that was the only reason to roll back to 4.4 from my end.

Very happy with 4.5 HF1 so far and am in the process of running testing at my fav testing airports.

 

 

 

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I always update on release, but I was busy when 4.5 can out. After reading that there would be a hot fix coming I decided to wait. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread.

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It didn’t do much for FPS or load time improvements for me, Having said that I didn’t see an issue before the hot fix.

Client update only for me, really didn’t want to do a compete uninstall. I think I’m done updating though until something revolutionary is offered as my sim runs good and I’m happy. It’s a fantastic time to be a simmer!!! 

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For me it has been beneficial. FPS improved by 5 to 6 on worst scenario (EGLL with PMDG747) and have reverted to general P3D setting of 30 fps from previous 25. Night time lighting looks a bit clearer too.

 

Ian Harrison

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Well, I updated to the hotfix and did content and scenery too.  Worked real nice and flies real nice too, and i could move my sliders up and stay at my 30fps for JoinFS.

My P3D used 100% CPU on its core even with v4.4, so I don't see anything different there.  And I use an affinity mask to move it to Core 1 and not use the logical cores, just the main ones.  That FTFF tool and RTSS kept everything smooth, even looking around lots with Track-IR.  So, I'm glad I updated.  🙂

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