REX EF Final Vertict?

[Nyxx 6,993]

29 minutes ago, GSalden said:

That I know. I was referring to Automated mode. 🙂

You can save it as a profile and use it in Auto.(I could be wrong)

Edited July 8, 2019 by Nyxx

[GSalden 4,679]

23 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

You can save it as a profile and use it in Auto.(I could be wrong)

Probably Automated mode has its own min - max values ...

[pete_auau 1,163]

18 hours ago, GSalden said:

Solution for what ? I do not have EF …

 

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Edited July 8, 2019 by pete_auau

[fs1 295]

20 hours ago, GSalden said:

You can’t be serious . Look at your own forum and several posters here at Avsim. The screenshots that they have posted.

And I have seen EF working with my own eyes at a friends.

Imho there need to be the possibility to tweak the brightness of the clouds with a min - max value, so within a range. 

Autimated settings are the personal taste of the maker... Like I make my PTA presets.

Myself I like more cloud brightness when the sun is shining on top of them, a little more cloud shadows on themselves and a little more saturation :

 

Everything you can do with PTA you can do with EF. Also PTA shaders will work with EF. The fact that you keep saying a tweak over a tweak is really tricky, as you can solve this via fine tuning your EF setting or your PTA, or both. As per the cloud lighting as @Nyxx mentioned you just save your light setting and use it in the future, like PTA does.

Edited July 9, 2019 by fs1

[ZKOKQ 984]

EF has come along way since I first purchased. I did uninstall it for a bit till the latest version came out. Very happy with the results.

Only issue now, is the mini ui is invisible, and I Cannot access the menu in P3D where the mini ui normally resides, blocking mouse clicks. Any idea @fs1

[GSalden 4,679]

5 hours ago, fs1 said:

Everything you can do with PTA you can do with EF. Also PTA shaders will work with EF. The fact that you keep saying a tweak over a tweak is really tricky, as you can solve this via fine tuning your EF setting or your PTA, or both. As per the cloud lighting as @Nyxx mentioned you just save your light setting and use it in the future, like PTA does.

I agree with you that PTA can be used for finetuning.

But there are some tweaks that I do not see in EF ( manual mode ) , or they are there under another name.

And those I use too and have a big influence on how the Environment looks :

Clouds Light Scandering

Alternate Lighting for Clouds

Clouds Shadows depth

Clouds Shadows extended Lighting 

Reduce Cloud brightness ar dawn/dusk//night

Reduce top layer cirrus clouds brightness at dawn/dusk/night

Turn of clouds Directional lighting

Aircraft Lighting & Shadows

Aircraft VC Lighting & Shadows

Autogen Emissive Lighting 

Urban Night Lighting 

Waves size

Custom tweak possibility

 

EF is a great program with a lot of potential.

For me to leave PTA behind I would like to see the above inside EF and, like I wrote before, I would like to see adjustable min-max values for several Automated tweaks...

[Nyxx 6,993]

If you saw all the above in EF then it would be copy/rip off of PTA and not EF. Your best sticking with PTA and the new version coming out along with ASCA. As you prefer ASCA to SF so its a bit pointless. I cannot see you ever using SF or EF.

Each to there own taste. But it does seem pointless keep posting shots of ASCA and PTA in topics on SF or EF when you seem to have little intention of ever using them Gerard.

Edited July 9, 2019 by Nyxx

[GSalden 4,679]

47 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

If you saw all the above in EF then it would be copy/rip off of PTA and not EF. Your best sticking with PTA and the new version coming out along with ASCA. As you prefer ASCA to SF so its a bit pointless. I cannot see you ever using SF or EF.

Each to there own taste. But it does seem pointless keep posting shots of ASCA and PTA in topics on SF or EF when you seem to have little intention of ever using them Gerard.

Fs1 wrote very clearly that EF can do what PTA does and that is not entirely true.

Also he claimed that there are no issues with grey cliouds which is not correct either, looking at multiple users posting here and at the REX forum.

Like I wrote before it is a program with great potential.  But let’s keep it at the facts.

The moment a user is able to do some extra mods like I mentioned in my earlier post I will buy it right away. I am not bound to PTA or TS..

BTW : I own multiple REX products which I all like 😊

 

 

 

 

[MOD71 175]

To throw my hat into the ring - I bought EF and have used it in conjunction with TS and AS4 for the past month. I have now returned to using just AS4, Cloud Art (Only for the sky's) and TS (Aviationlads Visual Mod X preset). I found EF water in Auto mode to be just wrong, and scene in general not as convincing. I know I could use manual mode to tweak, but I'm not interested in doing this every time I want to fly. The combination I have with TS, AS4 and Cloud Art provide a much more convincing scene in various situations. This is of course a highly subjective area and will change for each user given monitor type, P3D settings etc etc.....

I do think EF will eventually be a go to addon, and I'm sure REX will continue to enhance it. But for now, for me at least, there are better options.

[Nyxx 6,993]

 

 

 

 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, GSalden said:

Fs1 wrote very clearly that EF can do what PTA does and that is not entirely true.

Also he claimed that there are no issues with grey cliouds which is not correct either, looking at multiple users posting here and at the REX forum.

Like I wrote before it is a program with great potential.  But let’s keep it at the facts.

The moment a user is able to do some extra mods like I mentioned in my earlier post I will buy it right away. I am not bound to PTA or TS..

BTW : I own multiple REX products which I all like 😊

 

Because this is a forum I want you to understand this is all meant with no malice at all. Just simply talking.

I think what you bring to people with your custom PTA profiles is great and you're contributing a lot to our community with them. I just don't understand the need in an SF or EF topic you feel the need to post ASCA PTA pictures.

It's like someone starting a PMDG topic and me posting pictures of FSL. I totally understand when its a "What's the best clouds etc" topic. You just seem to want to find fault and nik pick EF, like your list of 13 options you want to see, it's not PTA its EF it works in a different way but the end result depending on taste can be worse or better each to there own. After 10 months on PTA and 3 on TS IMO in Auto with a few tweaks, I think SF & EF are stunning. All in AUTO. 

The facts are at the end of the day in the eye of the person using the sim if they think PTA ASCA looks better or SF +EF look better. Nik picking over options does not matter. What looks best is the bottom line.

 

[CFIJose 5,485]

What Gerard is doing can easily misconstrued by a mod as pushing an add-on. As someone who has benefited from Gerard's preset, I'm going to assume that what all he's doing is trying to improve EF or point out deficiencies in EF that have lead him to stick with PTA. I don't see anything wrong with this because it's what we simmers do. Without these types of discussions there would be no reason for me to pay a daily visit to AVSIM.

[reecemj 151]

3 minutes ago, DJJose said:

What Gerard is doing can easily misconstrued by a mod as pushing an add-on. As someone who has benefited from Gerard's preset, I'm going to assume that what all he's doing is trying to improve EF or point out deficiencies in EF that have lead him to stick with PTA. I don't see anything wrong with this because it's what we simmers do. Without these types of discussions there would be no reason for me to pay a daily visit to AVSIM.

+ 1! Could not be said better DJ. I read AVSIM threw out the day because of the discussions about our hobby. 

[GSalden 4,679]

David, I did not pick on EF in any way. Just te-read what I have written as an answer to what Fs1 posted.

And yes, imho the clouds are too grey in several situations. 

ASCA I am using as that was what I had. It also could have been SF as they have both their strong points.

Lets just enjoy our Sims 😀

 

 

Edited July 9, 2019 by GSalden

[Nyxx 6,993]

OK Gerard, 🙂

Off-topic have you seen the new GFX coming out? RTX 2060-70-80 SUPER, WoW, anyway that's well Off-topic.

[fs1 295]

On 7/9/2019 at 6:55 AM, GSalden said:

Fs1 wrote very clearly that EF can do what PTA does and that is not entirely true.

Also he claimed that there are no issues with grey cliouds which is not correct either, looking at multiple users posting here and at the REX forum.

Like I wrote before it is a program with great potential.  But let’s keep it at the facts.

The moment a user is able to do some extra mods like I mentioned in my earlier post I will buy it right away. I am not bound to PTA or TS..

BTW : I own multiple REX products which I all like 😊

 

 

 

 

You can do it yes. You then need to re-tweak your original settings.