January 14, 20206 yr 1 hour ago, GSalden said: Here with 4K I use FXAA + 4x MSAA + 4x AF and everything looks good. A little shimmering in the far distance is even more real and like reality. Look in real life at the tarmac in the distance when the sun is shining on it . Shimmering ... The only "shimmering" I'm familiar with in P3D isn't remotely realistic - when you have a bunch of small objects (e.g. light poles) at a distance, they turn into black and white pixels rapidly flashing.
January 14, 20206 yr Commercial Member 6 minutes ago, Chapstick said: The only "shimmering" I'm familiar with in P3D isn't remotely realistic - when you have a bunch of small objects (e.g. light poles) at a distance, they turn into black and white pixels rapidly flashing. In the Prepar3D.cfg try: [SCENERY] SmallPartRejectRadius=3 Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
January 14, 20206 yr 1 hour ago, GSalden said: Here with 4K I use FXAA + 4x MSAA + 4x AF and everything looks good. A little shimmering in the far distance is even more real and like reality. Look in real life at the tarmac in the distance when the sun is shining on it . Shimmering ... Does 16x AF instead of 4x hurt performance too much? In what conditions? Thanks
January 14, 20206 yr 1 minute ago, Dirk98 said: Does 16x AF instead of 4x hurt performance too much? In what conditions? Thanks In my conditions :2x 4K as one wide screen + everything very detailed you do not see the difference between 4x AF and 16x AF. But performance wise it is about 5-7%. 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
January 14, 20206 yr If you do not see the difference between 4x AF and 16x AF when sitting for example on a runway or using a long taxiway, I am no longer surprised that you do not see a lot of shimmering neither ;-) Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
January 14, 20206 yr 21 minutes ago, AnkH said: If you do not see the difference between 4x AF and 16x AF when sitting for example on a runway or using a long taxiway, I am no longer surprised that you do not see a lot of shimmering neither 😉 No difference. Perhaps the amount of 7.680 x 2.160 = 16.742.400 pixels for 1 view have something to do with that ... 🤓 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
January 14, 20206 yr I bet: 4K has the disadvantage of needing a lot of GPU performance while it has in the exact same time the advantage of allowing lower AF/AA modes and still looking very good. BUT: in your case, the reason you get good results is the 2080Ti. I guess a 2080Ti would just enable me to run 4xSSAA and still having my 30FPS cutoff most of the time. But those 30% my 1080Ti performs less are simply missing in cloudy situations or with dynamic lighting active... I really, really hope that the pricetag of the RTX 3080Ti will not be another step up compared to the 2080Ti. Otherwise I might say no to nVIDIA (again...). Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
January 14, 20206 yr I am using a 6.5y/o GTX Titan 6GB thru a 3440x1440 screen: FXAA=0, 4x MSAA, 16x AF, and 4x DSP oversampling using nV Control Panel. No jaggies, no shimmering. There was huge improvement that came I think along with P3D 3.x that obviated the strong need for 4xSSAA thankfully. And the DSP oversampling is just free visual improvement. Unfortunately the old Titan can't do much w/ terrain/cloud shadowing w/o getting overworked and very fortunately those eye candies aren't often all that visible anyway. It's amazing how much I still enjoy P3D on legacy hardware Edited January 14, 20206 yr by Noel Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
January 14, 20206 yr 3 hours ago, Dirk98 said: Does 16x AF instead of 4x hurt performance too much? In what conditions? I haven't seen any discernible performance impact from AF settings in at least 5 generations of graphics cards now. The filtering is done very efficiently in the GPU. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
January 17, 20206 yr On 1/14/2020 at 10:45 AM, GSalden said: Here with 4K I use FXAA + 4x MSAA + 4x AF and everything looks good. A little shimmering in the far distance is even more real and like reality. Look in real life at the tarmac in the distance when the sun is shining on it . Shimmering ... I agree a little shimmering is fine and 16x has a pretty big impact on FPS depending on the scene complexity (clouds, London etc) so I use 4 or 8. SSAA helps a lot with shimmering and cockpit text but is expensive on FPS. I mostly use 4 or sometimes 2xSSAA. What I can say skipping over all the Core 0 multi threading chat (covered in another post) is that on my machine and after many hours of work I've got a good balance with HT OFF (big impact) No AM setting (use all cores) FPS Unlimited or 60FPS / VSync Off FFTF 0.17Nvidia Settings Refresh = Adaptive (half refresh rate) Texture Filtering = Performance I simply do not see improvements with AM=254 and in fact I start to get blurries on long flights regardless of FFTF. The instability just is not worth it although I confess I have not tried the Task Manager approach someone mentioned above. https://i.imgur.com/3jg7ysD.jpg 4K During flight around London it moves from 15FPS to 30FPS with a 2 second stutter every 1/2 minutes. Average FPS is around 25FPS and is flyable, the new version of TE GB is a massive improvement on V1 and flying into Heathrow in an airliner is now fine, Edited January 17, 20206 yr by DellyPilot Hardware: i9 9900k@ 5Ghz | RTX 2080 TI | AORUS MASTER | 58" Panasonic TV Software: P3Dv4.4 | AS | Orbx LC/TE Southern England | Tomatoshade | 737 NGX | AS A319 | PMDG 747 | TFDI 717 | MJC8 Q400
January 17, 20206 yr The last stadium model that you zoom in on above seems to have a conflict with a generic 3D building. One more item to add to the growing list of issues... Edited January 17, 20206 yr by Christopher Low Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
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