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Microsoft Unveils New XBOX Specs

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4 hours ago, Scottoest said:

The company has already come out and said the Series X is twice as powerful as the One X, and the One X could perform 6 teraflops at FP32.  So there's no reason to believe that number isn't for FP32.

And in fact, it should for all practical purposes be more than twice as powerful, once you factor in the efficiencies gained by using Navi/RDNA2 versus the old GCN architecture.

Industry experts aren't too sure about the actual real life power of the new consoles, and I'm not in a position to question what they have been saying/asking the question. Personally I hope they are really powerful as it means the PC scene will have to up it's game to justify the extra expense of having a gaming PC and all that involves. 

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10 hours ago, eaim said:

Industry experts aren't too sure about the actual real life power of the new consoles, and I'm not in a position to question what they have been saying/asking the question. Personally I hope they are really powerful as it means the PC scene will have to up it's game to justify the extra expense of having a gaming PC and all that involves. 

There are many aspects of the specs that we still don't know about, but these are details that were offered by Microsoft themselves last Monday - the Series X's GPU is Navi RDNA2 architecture, with a performance of 12 TFLOPS.

Prior to that, Phil Spencer had simply said "twice as powerful" as the One X, which left peopele wondering if it was actually less than 12 TFLOPS, but technically "twice as powerful" factoring in Navi efficiencies over GCN.  However, that was dispelled when Spencer revealed it was indeed 12 TFLOPS last week.  If that was only for FP16, then their messaging so far would just be a blatant lie - and also completely inconsistent with their previous messaging, which wasn't a lie.

Of course, all of this only speaks to the GPU power.  We know far less about things like RAM (other than it being GDDR6), the CPU (other than the number of cores and threads, and that it's Zen 2-based), and the new SSD storage (other than that it's some form of NVMe, possibly using a next-gen Phison controller).

 

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

XBOX Devs give some insight.

 

Raymond Fry.

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I recommend the videos from digital foundry, they’re great 

The demo game was on ultra settings + some that are not available on todays gaming PC, the AMD tech used is not available for the desktop PC at the moment so don't expect the same performance form a PC built today, I suspect the fabs working hard to get the consoles ready for release MS and Sony. 

It was shot in Microsoft XBOX studio with the Devs present.

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I could only see 3 USB ports, unless I missed some, ultimately this could be a problem for flight sim controllers?

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15 hours ago, eaim said:

I could only see 3 USB ports, unless I missed some, ultimately this could be a problem for flight sim controllers?

I use a 7 port hub for my saitek hardware

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13 hours ago, goates said:

You can use a USB hub for more ports.

I know you can, but it's not ideal, I'd rather have a PC, mine has about 11 USB ports so it's a tidier setup.

TBF I was expecting the new Xbox having at least 6 USB ports.

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1 hour ago, eaim said:

I'd rather have a PC

absolutely

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1 hour ago, Brandon01110 said:

absolutely

Get back to me in a year. The new XBox is the main reason MS is putting so much effort into MSFS. MS needs to counteract Sony's also upcoming PS5 which has similar specs (and a few more big time video games). The release of a succesful MSFS could easily tip the hardware balance towards MS.

55 minutes ago, jabloomf1230 said:

Get back to me in a year. The new XBox is the main reason MS is putting so much effort into MSFS. MS needs to counteract Sony's also upcoming PS5 which has similar specs (and a few more big time video games). The release of a succesful MSFS could easily tip the hardware balance towards MS.

Not a chance that would happen and I doubt that is what Microsoft is aiming for. Flight simulators in the grand scheme of things are a niche product. 

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